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SMALLPOX AND FORCED VACCINATION: WHAT EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO KNOW
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| Barbara Loe Fisher
Posted on 11/19/2002 11:03:26 AM PST by krodriguesdc
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To: krodriguesdc; TomB
Same as it ever was. Having been whipped like a dog on the last thread krod flees and starts another. I've learned this, whenever he goes ellipses happy a new attempt to defame vaccinations with psuedoscience can't be far off.
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posted on
11/19/2002 11:05:47 AM PST
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discostu
To: krodriguesdc
Seems like the Democrats aren't the only ones to utilize "FUD" to advance their silly agenda.
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posted on
11/19/2002 11:10:22 AM PST
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Illbay
To: discostu
Note his name. Could it be "K Rodrigues, D.C." (As in "Doctor of Chiropractic")?
Unfortunately, there are a lot of Chiropractic schools with nutcase agendas, and they spew forth equally nut-bar students.
Chiropractors, or any alternative practitioners of "medicine" are just as guilty of spreading false information and scurrilous rumor passed off as fact as the "medical establishment" the purport to oppose.
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posted on
11/19/2002 11:12:58 AM PST
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Illbay
To: Illbay
I think a lot of the alternative people have some good points, there's something to be said for medicine that involves fewer synthetics and higher reliance on the body's immune system. That being said krod (whom I believe has admitted to being a DC in other threads) is obsessed with vaccines, and he simply doesn't make sense. No honest analysis of the numbers can conclude anything bad about mass vaccination. While some people do have problems with specific vaccines that number is so much lower than the number that used to die from the things being vaccinated against as to barely merit mention. I see it like the seatbelt issue, there are certain impact angles and collision behaviors that make seatbelts actually dangerous, but they are so rare compared to the accidents where in seatbelts save lives that the proper action is clear to all.
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posted on
11/19/2002 11:20:19 AM PST
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discostu
To: discostu
Agreed. I had mumps when I was a kid. Lucky thing that I didn't end up sterile as a result.
None of my children have had anything more serious than chicken-pox.
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posted on
11/19/2002 11:26:00 AM PST
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Illbay
To: krodriguesdc
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posted on
11/19/2002 11:30:13 AM PST
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deport
To: krodriguesdc
Bogus. Bad science and more propaganda than fact.(1)
(1) Journal of Balderdash Science (BS), June 2002, p3-78
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posted on
11/19/2002 11:30:39 AM PST
by
KeyWest
To: Illbay
I think it all boils down to this: If these people don't want the vaccine, fine. Don't get it. But when smallpox is introduced don't expect the medical community to try saving them. It was their
choice to avoid the shot, so it was their choice to die in case of infection.
On the other side of that coin, don't try to make it impossible for those of us who WANT to get the shot (again) to get it - we would prefer to live, thank you. (And we won't be crying when the obstructionists are taking a dirt nap either.)
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posted on
11/19/2002 11:33:01 AM PST
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11B3
To: 11B3
Problem is they're trying to talk everybody out of getting the shots, and they're using bad science to do it. People should be allowed to make their own mistakes, but when they try to get others to follow suit that's when people who know better have to stand-up and contradict them.
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11/19/2002 11:37:43 AM PST
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discostu
To: 11B3
What about someone who gets the small pox shot then passes the virus onto someone else. Shouldn't they be held accountable? The article above says that you can actually catch the small pox virus from someone who has been vaccinated. What if vaccinating people unleashes an epidemic in the US?
To: krodriguesdc
Ah, chiropractic: top-flite medical care...down at the mall between the Chick-Fil-A and the Piercing Pagoda.
Couldn't get into med school? That's okay! Here, manipulate my spine.
To: Illbay
None of my children have had anything more serious than chicken-pox. You think chicken-pox is chicken-s*** -- wait till you see someone with shingles.
It's interesting to see people reason about the government "forcing" them to take risks. I don't recall being asked for my consent to be sent to Vietnam, and it certainly wasn't for my personal good.
There are lots of risks in life, and assuming the risk of immunization for the survival of the nation sure beats being drafted.
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11/19/2002 11:54:53 AM PST
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js1138
To: Illbay
D.C. Makes sense, Chiropractic doesn't acknowledge germ theory so in their view vaccines can only harm. Every ill is caused by spinal misalignment and cured by spinal adjustment or in special cases colonic irrigation (I can't spell enema?)
At best D.C.'s are expensive physical therapists, at worst quacks. I don't have a high opinion of M.Dieties either.
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11/19/2002 11:57:24 AM PST
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dmcnash
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To: KeyWest
"Why, there are studies underway to fluoridate
salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream?
"Ice cream, Mandrake. Children's ice cream?"
To: krodriguesdc
The Paranoia of you "Junk Scientists" is amazing.
Whe I was a boy (born in 1924) every child attending public school was required to be vaccinated for Smallpox before he entered public school. It was routine, and if anyone died from it, The odds were lower than the odds of survival for those that contracted the disease.
Remember that entire tribes of Indians were destroyed by the "White Man's Disease". Smallpox outbreaks probably killed more people over the centuries than died from the Black Plague (Beubonic Plague)outbreaks which appeared from time to time during the same centuries.
Having said that I will tell you that among the numerous diseases that I was inoculated for were; Smallpox; Beubonic Plague;Typhus; and Typhoid. Of these I actually contracted from the inoculations, both Beubonic Plague, and Typhus. mild cases of both. But I survived, and I never heard of others that died from these same inoculations. Having sampled both of these deadly diseases, I feel certain that I was safer than had I not been inoculated, and were the occasion to arise again, I would accept the vaccinations rather than chance a full blown case of any of the diseases.
Any of these highly contagious and serious diseases can wipe out entire communities in a matter of days. Better the very low risk of a small number of people having adverse reactions than the risk of destroying entire communities.
Get A Life! There are worse risks in living than the ones you fear so much. You probably are more at risk from dying in an automobile accident.
To: krodriguesdc
Maybe someone can tell me why the moderators don't delete duplicate postings.
If you prefer your kids to be at risk for smallpox that's fine with me. It's fine with everyone. I've heard nothing that indicates the general population will be forced to have vaccinations.
Maybe you should have another toke and chill out a bit.
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posted on
11/19/2002 12:08:20 PM PST
by
Myrean
To: Myrean
Except for police, firefighters, and medical workers, practically nobody will have the vaccine until an outbreak is reported. At that time, the refuseniks will have trouble even getting a place in line for their shots, by the time they decide they don't want to die from smallpox.
To: js1138
I had severe shingles when I was a wee lad, and it hurt like hell. The scarring look similar to a bad burn. You carry that virus forever, too. Mine came back 15 years later, though luckily it was a rather light case then.
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