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Vanderbilt professor maligns UDC,Confederate Heritage in Editorial
The Tennessean ^ | 20 November 02 | Jonathan D. Farley

Posted on 11/20/2002 2:08:55 PM PST by Rebeleye

Edited on 05/07/2004 9:20:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Lest we forget, the Confederacy aimed to destroy the United States. Every Confederate soldier, by the mores of his age and ours, deserved not a hallowed resting place at the end of his days but a reservation at the end of the gallows. The UDC honors traitors.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: confederate; dixielist; udc; vanderbilt
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A friend of mine told me that, whenever he drives by the statue of Civil War general Nathan Forrest on Interstate 65, he always salutes it. With his middle finger.

Nathan Forrest, as you'll recall, is the Confederate ''hero'' who founded the Ku Klux Klan.

Today, 137 years after the last shot was fired in the Civil War, the enemy regroups. Under pressure from students, Vanderbilt University dropped the word ''Confederate'' from the name of its ''Confederate Memorial Hall.'' The United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC), which contributed $50,000 towards the construction of the building, promptly sued Vanderbilt to get their money back.

Just who are the Daughters of the Confederacy? In 1931, Nashville Chapter No. 1 ''voted to see that the last meeting place of the Ku Klux Klan in Nashville … [was] suitably marked.'' In 1944 and 1966, the UDC's minutes record their opposition to integration. More recently, a Murfreesboro woman whose family belongs to the UDC wrote me to say that Martin Luther King's ''only contribution [was] to stir-up more prejudice and being killed.''

Lest we forget, the Confederacy aimed to destroy the United States. Every Confederate soldier, by the mores of his age and ours, deserved not a hallowed resting place at the end of his days but a reservation at the end of the gallows. The UDC honors traitors.

''But the war was not about slavery,'' they whine. ''It was about states' rights.'' But the ''right'' Confederates sought to defend was the right to murder, rape, and torture millions of Africans, with impunity.

Here is how one slave owner exercised his ''rights'': ''Through a period of four months, including the latter stages of pregnancy, delivery, and recent recovery therefrom … he beat [his slave] with clubs, iron chains and other deadly weapons time after time, burnt her, inflicted stripes over and often, with scourges.''

The Confederacy's own vice president, Alexander Stephens, declared that the Confederacy ''rests upon the great truth that the negro is not the equal of the white man, that slavery — the subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition.''

Today's Confederates, who deny that the war was about slavery, are the new holocaust revisionists.

Black Americans and white Europeans object to the statue of a 19th century Hitler standing in public view off an interstate highway. It and the Confederate flags surrounding it represent nothing less than a death threat against scores of millions of people of color. That monument must go. Not only because it's racist and violent but also because it's just plain ugly.

The issue is not black vs. white.

The mostly white Green Party of the United States has issued a statement supporting Vanderbilt's decision. Southerners black and white recoil with disgust when the UDC claims that it alone represents ''Southern heritage.''

Here in Nashville, there are plans to investigate the source of the UDC's funds. If researchers can trace them back to slavery, they will demand that reparations be paid to the true children of the Confederacy — the descendants of the slaves — before one cent is paid by Vanderbilt back to the UDC.

Indeed, the race problems that wrack America to this day are due largely to the fact that the Confederacy was not thoroughly destroyed, its leaders and soldiers executed and their lands given to the landless freed slaves.

The Daughters of the Confederacy say we must remember their dead. And I agree: Let us remember the cruelty inflicted upon helpless women and children by cowards masquerading as civilized men.

The tyranny and evil they visited upon millions must never be forgotten.

1 posted on 11/20/2002 2:08:55 PM PST by Rebeleye
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To: Rebeleye
The professor is right. Slavery was a hideous evil.
2 posted on 11/20/2002 2:21:28 PM PST by moyden
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To: moyden
Do you think he was right in calling for the execution of Confederate soldiers and leaders?
3 posted on 11/20/2002 2:24:11 PM PST by Arkie2
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To: moyden
Slavery was bad. You, however, should study history a little bit to understand more about the causes. If you agree with this idiot it is very sad.
4 posted on 11/20/2002 2:25:56 PM PST by conservaDave
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To: Rebeleye
Lest we forget, the Confederacy aimed to destroy the United States.

Hogwash. The Confederate states wanted to leave the Union and live in peace with them. The only way he can say this is if he means that secession on the part of any state would destroy the Union. That is quite a stretch. If he is saying that the Confedarcy intended to conquer the Union and re-establish slavery everywhere, he is smoking some real good stuff, or is simply a deluded liberal. Probably both.

5 posted on 11/20/2002 2:30:24 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Rebeleye
This does not even rate an intelligent reply.
6 posted on 11/20/2002 2:30:34 PM PST by Pushi
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To: moyden
I think you'd be better off renouncing your US citizenship and going elsewhere. Once you learn the truth, you may not be able to handle it.
7 posted on 11/20/2002 2:36:41 PM PST by CWRWinger
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To: Rebeleye
I don't agree with everything the professor said. Some of it is ridiculous, but no more ridiculous than idiots who cling to a culture from 150 years ago for their "identity".

Get over it, already. Slavery was a hideous evil.
8 posted on 11/20/2002 2:46:24 PM PST by moyden
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To: Rebeleye
This guys is hallucinating! Which armies invaded which states? The Federal Armies made war in the southern states, not vice versa. Bobbie Lee tried to go north one time and was sent home at Gettysburg (at the loss of one of my ancestors). Joseph Stoutenger was killed in the first day of fighting with the 147th New York Volunteers.
9 posted on 11/20/2002 2:49:26 PM PST by wastoute
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To: moyden
What exactly is the argument here? To remove the statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest? Well, I think Forrest, although a capable military man and politician, was a horrible man for founding the Klan (although it was different back then). He also was on the wrong side of history and fought for a lousy cause. But comparable to Hitler? Sheesh. Thats ridiculous.

Its a harmless statue and of the people of TN want him removed they can take it down. Personally, I find that statue of Lenin in Seattle, WA much more offensive.

10 posted on 11/20/2002 2:50:43 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Rebeleye
I don't even know where to begin. This comes from someone with a doctoral degree? The notion that the Confederacy sought to destroy the United States is insane, for one. The thought that Confederate soldiers were traitors is equally worthy of ridicule, and in truth, personally insulting to me and others who are descended from brave men who sacrificed for their families and homes.
11 posted on 11/20/2002 2:52:03 PM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: moyden
I see, so there is a statue of limitations on cultural inheritance? I guess Shakespeare is to be abandoned? How about Christmas trees, are they out too? I'm thinking the wheel is much older than 150 years. . . .
12 posted on 11/20/2002 2:53:54 PM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: Rebeleye
Not only because it's racist and violent but also because it's just plain ugly.

Whatever else he got wrong, he got this one right. That statue is ugly as sin. Why not put up a (good quality!) statue of Pat Cleburne, who was not a racist and actually has the distinction of paying the ultimate price for his Rebel sympathies a few miles south of the site in question ... instead of Forrest, who survived the war, became filthy rich and founded a disgraceful organization.

13 posted on 11/20/2002 2:55:27 PM PST by Campion
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To: Rebeleye
Farley's Homepage
14 posted on 11/20/2002 3:00:16 PM PST by rwfok
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Yo Walt. Got a live one for you here.
15 posted on 11/20/2002 3:01:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: wastoute
Bobbie Lee tried to go north one time and was sent home at Gettysburg

Twice actually. In 1862 he came to grief at Antietam in Maryland.

16 posted on 11/20/2002 3:03:10 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: KC_Conspirator
Its a harmless statue and of the people of TN want him removed they can take it down.

Not easily. It's privately owned and on privately-owned ground.

17 posted on 11/20/2002 3:06:31 PM PST by Campion
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To: Non-Sequitur
Here come the cut and paste artists who live and die by the good, good north and the bad, bad south.
18 posted on 11/20/2002 3:06:55 PM PST by groanup
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To: rwfok
Oh. Commie, eh?
19 posted on 11/20/2002 3:09:24 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Rebeleye
Is this clown any relation to the deceased Chris Farley?...
if so it's pretty strange having two comedians in the same family!
If I ever have to go to war I hope and pray that I have about a half dozen men of Nathan Bedford Forrest's courage and fight in the same fox hole!
20 posted on 11/20/2002 3:13:30 PM PST by arly
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