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What is the Koran?
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Posted on 11/20/2002 3:13:18 PM PST by dennisw

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To: dennisw
Where is the entrance to the womb? Think he "worships" there? Think that I just may have figured out what his "religion" is all about? LOL
41 posted on 11/21/2002 6:38:53 PM PST by smoking camels
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To: Dallas
The Satanic Bible??

Not really. Lucifer became Satan upon the pronouncement of his 5 'I wills'. Lucifer was a Cherub, an angel, a created being with volition. Man also is a created being with volition. Note that the Quran (Koran) came into manuscript form hundreds of years after the books of the Bible which we know to be Scripture or the completion of Canonical writings in the Old and New Testaments. Within the New Testament we observe repeatedly the reference to the Word of God frequently idenified in context with the person of the Son or Christ.

On many notes the Koran attempts to act as a counterfeit to the Word of God by explicitly reducing the role of Christ or the Messiah as merely a prophet. Rather than an accusatory Scripture, the Koran might be better understood as a counterfeit Scripture or false writing which attempts to deceive those seeking a relationship with God on His terms and instead redirects them towards understanding many facets of Diety, yet inculcating human judgment and vengeance rather than leaving those to God as per Scripture.

Satan hates believers. He also hates unbelievers. Evil plans simply seek any system of government or worldly success independent of God in order to rationalize an angelic rebellion from the judgement already made upon the fallen angels. By displaying any success independent of Him, God's plan is attacked in order to avoid eternal damnation already in store for them and those who reject God on His terms.

A Satanic Bible won't work as the devil is the father of all lies. The Koran is simply a counterfeit religious document seeking to mislead as many as possible. The consequences won't simply be an alternate system, they will be an eternal torment in hell, longer than the history of man without any recourse.

42 posted on 11/21/2002 6:40:24 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: Primus
(minister of the Womb-Temple (Crotch Fornicator) of Transcendental Edenic Counsciousness (Aware of Perfect Environment but still Sins)and Magicke (Occultic Sorcery, because he lacks the guts to work in the open in obedience to the Lord Christ Jesus))...I feel that ALL religions are equal in that they change over time.

A relationship with God through Christ on His terms isn't a religion. So on this note you might be truthful. Religions are counterfeit to His plan and His Word. Accordingly they might be indeed equally fraudulant.

..the Godhead is always revealing new truths to build on old ones.

Indeed, God's plan continues to advance regardless of how many arguments are posed in thought or deed over the ages. Every fathomable attempt is being made for the fallen angels to attempt to squirm out of the consequences of judgment, yet the perfect justice of God is immutable. Every conniving attempt to make God a liar is shown to fail in disaster.

I believe most Muslim people are good folks, and that God speaks to them through the Koran.

The roadway to hell is paved with 'good folks'. It might be noted that only the Father is truly good. Others might attempt to do good independent of God, but instead fall into a counterfeit plan of God or evil. Wherein the Koran mixes some truth with false, the truth might indeed speak to the innocent, but the Koran as a whole fails to express His plan, but instead offers a counterfeit system.

And I say this is good. Let God's Children obey him, not blind obedience to ANY book.

There are many books in Scripture, which if man remains obedient to His Word, will provide an avenue, by that crimson thread of Redemption throughout Scripture, for a sound relationship with God. Obedience to Him through the Word is magnificient worship. The sound of the believer thumbing through the Scripture in the Bible is some of the most beautiful hymns He enjoys receiving.

43 posted on 11/21/2002 7:12:29 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: Primus
So who is the nut-case that started this false and abominable religion?

Are you a homeless, mentally ill person?

44 posted on 11/21/2002 7:35:11 PM PST by smoking camels
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To: dennisw
bump for later
45 posted on 11/21/2002 7:40:49 PM PST by Wordsmith
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To: Primus
Yes religions change over time, definitely. The point you need to address is which are changing to a way more palatable to a pluralistic society, which respects individual rights and individuality, and which are not, and why, and what are the prospects for the future. You are right to notice the delta function, now what you need to do is put a sign in front of it. It is also right to decry rantings that lack nuance, and understanding, and thus are not really very useful in forming intelligent judgments, much less what public policies should be adopted in the public square.
46 posted on 11/21/2002 7:45:58 PM PST by Torie
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To: Primus
Bump! This is the funniest post I've ever read on Freerepublic! LOL! Keep posting Womb-Temple minister!
47 posted on 11/21/2002 7:48:52 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Primus
Been smokin that $h*t again, haven't you.
48 posted on 11/21/2002 8:07:51 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Must be some really good stuff he's smoking huh?
49 posted on 11/21/2002 8:24:51 PM PST by smoking camels
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To: dennisw
I agree. The Koran is the handbook for hypnotizing the gullible masses of Arabia and beyond. That the Koran is 50% lifting then perverting preceding scripture. That's it's as coherent and meaningful to the human condition as a low budget action movie.

Thank you for posting this....maybe people who have never read the Koran, will understand its value....I figure, it would be perfect paper for the bottom of my parrots cages...

50 posted on 11/21/2002 8:29:10 PM PST by KLT
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To: smoking camels
I agree smoking camels....primus is more then a little unusual....Notice, he's only been with us a month...and he's already controversial...(10-29-02)
51 posted on 11/21/2002 8:40:32 PM PST by KLT
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To: justshutupandtakeit
This could be because Islam is a political ideology rather than a religion as we understand the word. If you compare the canon of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, the Koran is the only one that mandates world conquest. The Jews just want the little piece of land that God promised them; and Christians urge that people save their souls by accepting Christ, being sad for them if they don't, but not mandating they be killed. The Islamic view of the world is that it exists in two parts: the World of Islam and the World Yet to Be Conquered. That is completely different from the other religious texts.
52 posted on 11/21/2002 8:49:55 PM PST by Inkie
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Listen to the way the muslims communicate with both each other, and anyone else for that matter. They don't seem able to make any sense at all on the TV. They just ramble on for about 30 seconds on a topic, and just when you get the jist of what he's saying, he starts talking about something totally irrelevant or unconnected to the previous comments. Can't answer a question straight for _hit. Just think if you were surrounded only by people that conducted everyday events and conversations with that kind of randomness. I would go flatline brain dead.
It sounds like the koran is an exact reflection of the muslim society and mannerisms and forms of communication in general. Behavior patterns is what I think I'm trying to say.
53 posted on 11/21/2002 9:10:18 PM PST by m18436572
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To: secretagent
A bunch of nuts for a bunch of nuts...
54 posted on 11/21/2002 9:47:25 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"The fellow from 100 yrs ago quoted has it most accurate. The Koran is one of the most stubborn enemies of Civilization, Liberty and the Truth which the world has ever known."

Men don't dare get too close to the truth, for it exposes their darkness. This gives man yet another way to take on a form of godliness (but deny the power thereof) and hide behind a bogus religion.
55 posted on 11/21/2002 9:54:12 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: Primus
Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. By ignoring His Word, you are ignoring Him. Do you at your own risk. FReegards, AFE
56 posted on 11/21/2002 9:57:09 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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57 posted on 11/22/2002 12:02:07 AM PST by Cindy
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To: dennisw
The court then proceeded, on the grounds of an Islamic law forbidding the marriage of an apostate to a Muslim, to order Abu Zaid to divorce his wife...

Ahhh.
So not only is it the "religion of peace", but of "high morals" also!


58 posted on 11/22/2002 1:22:29 AM PST by ppaul
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59 posted on 11/22/2002 1:50:34 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Cindy
Bookmark site bump. Thanks Cindy.
60 posted on 11/22/2002 8:22:01 AM PST by ApesForEvolution
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