[Sparta]

I need to get a calculator to count the number of lies in this article before I debunk them.

[Sparta]

Debunk Commie revisionist crap about Korean War ping!!!

[Sparta]

If you want on or off the Western Civilization Military History ping list, please let me know.

[SICSEMPERTYRANNUS]

"The Marines X Corps?"

It was the 1st Marine Division. The Chinese probably felt like they were fighting a Corps size(three divisions) formation. A single Marine Division handed them their ass on their way out of the resevoir.

Semper Fi.

[Cindy]

LINKS OF INTEREST:

THE TIMES HERALD.com: "6 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARRESTED IN ALGONAC PARK" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "ALGONAC -- Uncovered in the darkness by a motion sensor porch light, seven Chinese nationals smuggled across the St. Clair River were arrested Thursday morning near the state park, U.S. Border Patrol officials said. The illegal immigrants told officials they paid between $60,000 and $65,000 each to smugglers who sneaked them via boat from Canada in the middle of the night.")(112302)

NewsMax.com: "PLA NAVY OBTAINS NEW-GENERATION SUBMARINES" by Dr. Alexandr Nemets (112102)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "CHINA MISSILE HAS TWICE THE RANGE U.S. ANTICIPATED" by Bill Gertz (112002)

INSIGHT On The News online: "CHINA EYES U.S. PORTS" by J. Michael Waller (111802)

NewsMax.com - Hot Topics: "CHINA/TAIWAN"

BERNAMA.COM - MALAYSIA NATIONAL NEWS AGENCY: "ISLAM IS DEEP-ROOTED IN CHINA" by Mohd Shukri Ishak (ARTICLE NOTE: There are 22 million Muslim people and 30,000 mosques in China.) (111502)

CHARISMA NEWS.com: PERSECUTION WATCH: "CHINA" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In the weeks leading to the party congress, which began last Friday, the government has banned books, blocked Internet sites and clamped down on other activists. China allows only government-monitored churches, and has harassed and imprisoned Christians who worship outside the official system.") (111102)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "CONGRESSIONAL WATCHDOG TO PROBE CHINESE SEC RELATIONS" by Bill Gertz (111202)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "SEC AIDE QUITS AFTER LEAK TO CHINESE" by Bill Gertz (ARTICLE NOTE: The former Securities and Exchange Commission aide is identified as Mylene Chan, a Chinese national.) (111102)

THE TIMES OF INDIA (AFP): "CHINA TO UNVEIL TOP SECRET WARPLANE" (ARTICLE NOTE: The warplane is an F-10 aka J-10 aka Jian-10 Fighter.) (110502)

FREEREPUBLIC.com - Discussion Threads - Search Term: "PANAMA CANAL"

CONSERVATIVE USA.com: PANAMA CANAL

PANAMA CANAL.com: THE PANAMA CANAL - MIRAFLORES WEB CAM"

[SAMWolf]

I seem to remember the US kicking their butts out of South Korea and fighting them to a standstill. Last I heard there's a still a truce in effect.

[Constitutional Patriot]

"Various imperialist mouthpieces have made racist portrayals"

Hello....It's 2002, soon to be 2003. When are the commies going to get some new material?

[SAMWolf]

Edwin Hoyt's 3 book series on the Korean War was pretty good.

[SAMWolf]

"At Unsan they were surrounded for several days, yet they did nothing. They are afraid when their rear is cut off."

I think the Marines have a different version to that one.

[redbaiter]

I recommend Breakout by Martin Russ. The story, told largely from the point of view of the Marines, of the X corp (meaning largely, the Marines') breakout from the Chosin reservior. I think the Marines would substantially agree with the Revolutionary Worker's assessment insofar as it applies to Walker's army. The book paints Walker's Eighth army in a very bad light, and is also very harsh in describing the US Army troops the Marines fought alongside in Chosin.

[ABrit]

Wilfrid Burchett KGB agent!


http://www.jbs.org/vietnam/below/burchett1.htm

[Quix]

I wouldn't doubt that the exaggerations and lies were extensive.

But what would disturb me more, is the likely number of truths in the article.

[Sparta]

Chicom revisionist crap ping!!

[Eternal_Bear]

In the first part of the Chinese intervention, the Chicoms did employ lot of infiltration. They also resorted to human wave attacks when infiltration didn't work. Ridgeway knew how to employ massive firepower without leaving the Chicoms an opening.

Don't sell the Chicoms short. Carlson, a US marine officer was sent over to study Chicom battle tactics in the 30's. Not only did he come back with some techniques which were incorporated in Marine Raider units but also the battle cry of "Gung Ho" which means "let's pull together" in Chinese.

The Chicoms are going to come after us soon. Don't belittle them. They are prepared and seeking vengeance. It's going to be a hell of a war and some of it is going to be on our own soil. They are still masters of infiltration. They follow the admonition of Sun Tzu "when we are near; make the enemy think we are far away....". They are not that far away. (Think South of the Border)

[Lobster 6]

"This Kind of War" by Fehrenback describes in detail US lack of preparation for war in Korea,1950. The price of being unprepared was high. In the end, US & Allied forces destroyed the North Korean Army (NKPA)and killed several hundred thousand Chinese PLA (CCF) soldiers and forced an end to the war in Korea. Being unprepared for war carries imposes a very high cost. Those who think the US unable to take casualties should remember the beating we gave the Communits in Korea. Matter of fact, you may wish to consider recall the courage and sacrifice of US Forces in Vietnam. We destroyed the Viet Cong and beat the NVA in the field. Sadly, our courage & sacrifice was betrayed by leftist politicians Washington so-called "impartial" left wing journalists. Note: The same gang that underminned our effort in Korea and Vietnam recently crawled from under their rocks to support Saddam.

[Tallguy]

Infiltrators made good use of cover, probing unerringly for weaknesses in the defense and exploiting each advantage with uncanny speed.

Much the same way that the Imperial German Army did in their Spring Offensive in 1918. And the ultimate results were the same: after punching a deep hole in the enemy lines the German (and later the PRC) offensives petered out as their light infantry forces grew exhausted and overextended.

During the inter war years, the Germans sought to mate their WWI infiltration tactics with Allied mechanization in the hopes that offensive momentum could be sustained. The result was later termed Blitzkreig. The PLA has yet to demonstrate mastery of modern mechanized warfare.

[hinckley buzzard]

I hope the "Chinese" feel special about all this.

It's likely to be the only chance they'll get if they are so childish and culturally infantile as to pick a fight with the current "Rummy" Pentagon. They will be stunned, as were the ignorant backwater Japanese savages after Hiroshima.

Irresistable image of the geeky "ninja" type primitive, flashing his swords all around to the amazement of the barbarian Middle East crowds, until Indiana Jones calmly pulled out his .38 and plugged the fool.