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Jeffords: Mandate for the Middle (HA!)
The New York Times ^ | 11/30/2002 | Jim Jeffords

Posted on 11/30/2002 3:45:22 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: Sir_Humphrey
Do I remember an unemployment rate of 15% during Jimmy's reign of terror? Yes, I do!
21 posted on 11/30/2002 5:12:46 AM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
Jimmy Carter, that is.
22 posted on 11/30/2002 5:13:32 AM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Pokey78
Our slumping economy, our threatened environment, our underfunded schools, our corporate scandals — these are not issues that you will hear discussed by the White House,...

Really Jim. That's an outright lie.

In less than two years, more than two million private sector jobs have been lost,

And he won't tell you haw many are gained in other sectors because than it would not seem nearly as terrible.

while our economic growth is the weakest it has been in 50 years.

Translation; The economy is growing but slower that it has in the past.

The Census Bureau's recent income and poverty report stated that 1.3 million Americans slipped below the poverty line in the last year. This increase means that 11.7 percent of the United States population is living in poverty.

Only in the land of government idiocy. Two color TV's and a car in the garage is hardly poverty. If more that 2% of the US population is genuinely living in poverty, I'll personally campaign for Jumping Jim.

Coal plants in the Midwest continue to spew toxic pollutants into the air, yet the administration does not see the wisdom in regulating these emissions, preferring to rely on the good-faith efforts of plant owners to police themselves. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of people are dying prematurely every year from such pollution.

More BS. The only thing dying is your ability to garner federal funds because of pollution in your and local states. It's easy to blame it on the Midwest.

The lack of funding for our schools is disgraceful. Of the major industrial nations, the United States ranks among the lowest in terms of financing education at the federal level, providing only 7 percent of the cost

Where in the Constitution is the federal funding of school enumerated? Notice how he talks of federal funding as if all the state and local funding doesn't exist.

The only thing disgraceful is you Jumping Jim. You're a loser, so get over it.

23 posted on 11/30/2002 5:18:10 AM PST by Fzob
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To: Pokey78
If the new, razor-thin Republican majority abuses its power and moves forward with an extreme agenda that overlooks the concerns of the many and benefits only the privileged few, there will be repercussions

Jeffords is a traitorous psychotic nut case, who's career in the Senate is dead.

Nobody trusts him , he probably has less influence than any other Senator, and he's not fooling ayone with the "Independent" label.

24 posted on 11/30/2002 5:19:33 AM PST by Rome2000
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To: Pokey78
Mr. Jefford Sir,

One question, if the Democrats had an answer to the problems you described, why haven't they been solved yet?

The answer is is the federal government can do little for most of the problems you described except get out of the way, remove regulations, cut taxes, and let local people solve their own problems.

25 posted on 11/30/2002 5:25:20 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Pokey78
Where's the BARF ALERT?
26 posted on 11/30/2002 5:26:47 AM PST by packrat35
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To: packrat35
Jeffords should pick up his laundry and go home.
27 posted on 11/30/2002 6:08:01 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Pokey78
Someone had posted an article from a few days ago from the Washington Times about "Jumpin Jim wants back in" by Greg Pierce. Unfortunately, they only posted an excerpt and now the original is gone. (This is the big problem with excerpts - the original disappears). Does anyone have that article?
28 posted on 11/30/2002 6:10:10 AM PST by I still care
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To: Pokey78
The lack of funding for our schools is disgraceful. Of the major industrial nations, the United States ranks among the lowest in terms of financing education at the federal level, providing only 7 percent of the cost.

An amazing attempt to mislead. How many other nations have federalism as a form of government? Is money sent from the Federal government somehow worth more than the green backs sent from the State governments?
Jeffords, you may fool some, but not us.

29 posted on 11/30/2002 6:12:57 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Pokey78
The lack of funding for our schools is disgraceful.

Uh... yeah, right.

Apparently Jeffords has not seen the three story brick and glass school buildings going up around Michigan. Neither is he aware how much money teachers make nowdays.

30 posted on 11/30/2002 6:16:03 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: goldstategop
And last I checked there's no "Book Of Great Moderates In World History" on the library shelves.

You never heard of "Profiles in Moderatism", or "The Moderate Enlightment", "Moderate from the Start"?

Neither have I.

31 posted on 11/30/2002 6:21:17 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: packrat35
Why doesn't he just become a Democrat? That's what he is.
32 posted on 11/30/2002 6:22:45 AM PST by SHKMAN1212
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To: Pokey78
Voters listened to an ad nauseum stream of the whining typified in this article for months and went out and voted in droves for...REPUBLICANS...because they didn't believe it.

Jumpin' Jim, though a legend in his own mind, is irrelevant. Despite his seniority, he'll be put out to pasture to make room for Hillary, Edwards and Corzine.

33 posted on 11/30/2002 6:24:48 AM PST by randita
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To: William Creel
I'm afraid he truely thinks he's a centrist.

He is, he is, at least in the way I think of that... a centrist has no principles, and says whatever they think will cause the greatest number of that particular audience to admire them. For the NYTimes, this particular drivel fits the audience well.

Examples?
President Bush did a masterful job engineering victories for the Republican Party.

Nothing was said by the electorate in this election that should give the leftists cause to be concerned about their failed and now rejected policies. Simply "engineering" by the president. Move on...

I believe other issues that bear directly on the security of our homeland are being dangerously obscured... Our slumping economy, our threatened environment, our underfunded schools, our corporate scandals —

Jumpin'Jim - if you are going to talk about issues that affect homeland security, why not discuss illegal immigration and islamofacist rhetoric? The ACLU and CAIR? Our national media concern about offending the UN and the Palestinians? Leftist media such as the NYTimes and ABC/NBC/CBS/PBS/CNN ignoring their duty to fully and impartially inform the public about such things as all the 'Toon scandals? Sorry, you have not convinced me that you even know what constitutes a national security issue.

While we are on the topic, though, I hardly consider our schools, which spend well over $10,000/student-year "underfunded". In some areas they spend over $16,000/student-year! Furthermore, you have to go some ways to convince me that there is something wrong with the "United States ... providing only 7 percent of the cost" of education. Please show me in the Constitution where the federal government has the right to even fund education at that 7% level? The funding of our schools is indeed disgraceful, as you say it is, but the greatest part of that scandal is that the teachers' unions and our "educational system" spends so much money and produces so many children who can not even read, much less understand our history and our Constitution, while assuring us that they are able to put a condom on a cucumber. Perhaps that is exactly the way you want it, though.

...our economic growth is the weakest it has been in 50 years.

Oh come now! Completely ignoring the other untenable statements in that paragraph, and other "economy" paragraphs, are you that seriously lacking in your own understanding of history? Apparently you are willing to have those who vote for you being so uneducated as to be unable to figure things out themselves, but have you seriously deluded yourself this much? I suspect the truth is that, yes, you are this seriously deluded. There are no objective standards whereby any economist would support that statement. If you don't know it, you should immediately resign, and let the governor appoint someone who has at least some common sense.

Regardless,
"We should be addressing [the] homeland security issue...[of economic growth]."
and at least, you have one full paragraph right. Unfortunately for the country, one of the major reasons that this issue was not addressed during the past two years is YOUR Jumpin, Jim. Your actions allowed the Demodogs and D'ashole to obstruct and obstruct in a way almost unprecedented. The tax cuts would have been far more permanent, the homeland security bill would have been passed many months ago, as would the construction terrorism insurance guarantees, and as a result the economy would have been far stronger today than it is. You are a large part of the reason for whatever weakness there is in this economy and the stock market this far into our recovery from the 'Toon recession. You! The other economic drivel you report in this article is part and parcel of what you and the Demodogs committed by failing to act after the 9/11 to allay some of the economic fallout of that event. I do not forget, and I will not forgive you and them for that. Thank God that President Bush has been able to prevail to the extent he has with a sufficient number of senators and pass the items he was through Congress. It is only because of his leadership we are not in far worse straits.

I could be happy ending here, but you continue with more B.S. :
"Coal plants in the Midwest continue to spew toxic pollutants into the air,..."
at FAR less than historical emissions. Nevertheless, why don't you, Jumpin'Jim, demand that YOUR state become totally independent of any of these nasty polluters? How much steel are you producing in the great state of Vermont? How much Aluminum? How much of your own electricity? Food? How much oil are you refining in VT? About all you are producing is hot air. Maybe you ought to suggest to your constitutents that they build plenty of windmills on top of all those mountains so you can put those nasty MidWest polluters out of business with your oh-so-economical-and-environmentally-friendly production of power. I dare you to suggest it, then go prove it to us. Better yet, why don't you quit your present job, raise the capital to build those windmills yourself, and get feelthy rich! Surely, you can then secure for yourself a larger office than the closet you are going to be relegated to during the upcoming session of Congress. Your fame will spread far and wide in the annals of corporate America,as well as with the environmentalists (if they don't mind your killing whole flocks of birds). If all the money you make will be an embarassment to you, you can simply pledge to give it to some worthy environmental organization like Greenpeace instead.

If the Republicans read the recent election results as a rejection of moderation and a mandate to steamroll opposition ...

The mandate I have given to my President is that he do whatever it takes to squash the vermin like you which infest our government. I mandate that the demons and opportunists who mislead the populace and buy their votes by bribing them with their own money be expunged. I do not demand that he do this rapidly or immediately, but surely. Slow torture has always been the most effective lesson to deter criminal behavior, and I hope the Demodogs, and you, are tortured for many years of inexorably rolling back the unConstitutional affronts which you have inflicted on my nation.

Enjoy your independent closet, until you finally go. Take some of your liberal friends with you.

Whenever that is, it won't be too soon for me, and the rest of the country.

34 posted on 11/30/2002 6:28:36 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: Rome2000
I'm not sure he is psychotic, but he certainly has a dead career, no matter what the election results are in the future. His "influence" will never rise even to that of Landrieu's.
35 posted on 11/30/2002 6:33:45 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: Republican Wildcat
How many other nations have federalism as a form of government? Is money sent from the Federal government somehow worth more than the green backs sent from the State governments?

I'm glad you explicitly pointed that out, for the blasted liberals who still frequent these pages, and who still don't understand our way of government.

36 posted on 11/30/2002 6:37:34 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: AFPhys
raise the capital to build those windmills... .
... If all the money you make will be an embarassment to you, you can simply pledge to give it to some worthy environmental organization like Greenpeace instead.

Gee whiz --- better yet, why not have Greenpeace and the Sierra Club and all those worthies fund and build those windmills themselves? Then you will be able to draw a reasonable salary from this project, and they can take all the remaining profits they have after producing VTs steel and Al, etc.

C'mon, JJ, Sierra Club et al., ... no guts, no glory!!!

Show us all how it's done!

37 posted on 11/30/2002 6:49:39 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: Jhoffa_
Jeffords says: "Too many hard-working people are stuck in low income jobs" and "education funding is disgraceful."

Right, Jim. And what did you do to stop the loss of 7000 Vermont high-tech jobs over the past year or two and with your buddy, Howard "Deficit" Dean (out-going...and I don't mean personable Dem. Gov.)?

And what are you doing to convince my town's NEA members that another 12% increase in the school budget is not going to improve educational scores.

From Vermonters for Better Education:

Vermont scores on the 2002 Scholastic Aptitude Test, taken by many high school juniors and seniors for college applications, are up from last year, but still below national averages of similar students.

While 2002 SAT results in the state are a few points above last year's scores, both verbal and math scores lag behind the average SAT scores of white American students. Because Vermont's population is almost 100 percent white, it makes sense to compare the state's scores to those of that particular demographic.

In 2002, white students scored on average 533 on the math portion of the SAT, and 527 on the verbal, compared to Vermont's scores of 510 on the math and 512 on the verbal, according to scores posted on the College Board web site. That means Vermont students scored nearly 40 points below other white students across the country.

38 posted on 11/30/2002 7:02:10 AM PST by JimVT
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To: Pokey78
In the final tally, there is no question that President Bush did a masterful job engineering victories for the Republican Party

Uhh, Jim, you forgot to mention that the voters just aren't buying what the Democrats are selling. They don't believe it any more because they've seen it doesn't work. Labor unions, African Americans, and the average working family are all realizing that the Democrats are a party of empty promises. In this article for the NYT you rattle off about twenty social problems, and then expect us to believe that the Democrat party is going to solve all of these problems by taxing people and spreading around Federal money. But we tried that, and it doesn't work.

39 posted on 11/30/2002 7:04:11 AM PST by dano1
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To: AFPhys
Nice rant and a bump
40 posted on 11/30/2002 7:07:01 AM PST by Fzob
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