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Iraq Says to Hand in Weapons Declaration on Dec 7
Reuters ^ | 12/03/02 | Reuters

Posted on 12/03/2002 4:25:05 AM PST by blondee123

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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq will hand in a key declaration on its banned weapons programs on December 7 but it will not necessarily include an admission that the country has weapons of mass destruction, the chief Iraqi official liaising with U.N. arms experts said on Tuesday.

"We are going to deliver this declaration in the proper time on the seventh of this month and the people here, the UNMOVIC and IAEA, will take this declaration to New York and Vienna," Hussam Mohammed Amin, head of the Iraqi National Monitoring Directorate told reporters.

Asked if the declaration would include any new elements, he said: "Of course the declaration will have new elements but these new elements will not, shall we say, necessarily include a declaration of the presence of weapons of mass destruction.

"We are a country devoid of weapons of mass destruction. This fact is known to all countries including the United States of America and Britain and all those concerned."

U.S. President George Bush said Iraq must supply a "credible and complete" list of its nuclear, biological and chemical weapons by Sunday -- the December 8 deadline set by U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441 giving Baghdad one last chance to disarm or face war.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq
Yeah, yada, yada, yada!
1 posted on 12/03/2002 4:25:05 AM PST by blondee123
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To: blondee123
but it will not necessarily include an admission that the country has weapons of mass destruction, the chief Iraqi official liaising with U.N. arms experts said on Tuesday.

See ya!

2 posted on 12/03/2002 4:28:19 AM PST by KansasConservative
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To: KansasConservative
I suspect Bush already has the "necessary" list.
3 posted on 12/03/2002 4:31:47 AM PST by Howlin
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To: blondee123; Alamo-Girl; onyx; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; Fred Mertz; dixiechick2000; SusanUSA; ...
Iraq Says to Hand in Weapons Declaration on Dec 7

Excerpt:

"We are a country devoid of weapons of mass destruction. This fact is known to all countries including the United States of America and Britain and all those concerned."


Deny, deny, deny !!



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

4 posted on 12/03/2002 4:36:20 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: blondee123
inneresting choice of dates, Pearl Harbor anniversary...
5 posted on 12/03/2002 4:39:59 AM PST by camle
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To: camle
inneresting choice of dates, Pearl Harbor anniversary...

Sure is, never even thought of that!

6 posted on 12/03/2002 4:42:21 AM PST by blondee123
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To: Howlin
I think you're right. Saddam know's he isn't going to comply, Bush knows Saddam isn't going to comply so let's just get on with it already.
7 posted on 12/03/2002 4:47:36 AM PST by KansasConservative
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To: blondee123
wonder why the coincidence. is something planned for that date?
8 posted on 12/03/2002 4:53:42 AM PST by camle
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To: KansasConservative
December 7th??? Are they using our own historic date against us? HA! Fools. FOX just said UN inspectors were not allowed in to a facility...
9 posted on 12/03/2002 5:07:06 AM PST by rintense
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To: KansasConservative
Look for the UN inspectors to become hostages. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
10 posted on 12/03/2002 5:09:04 AM PST by rintense
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To: rintense; Poohbah; Miss Marple; mhking; rdb3; Dog; MeeknMing; Senator_Palpatine; JohnHuang2
See honey.. there's a place called heaven and a place called hell
A place called prison and a place called jail
And Saddam's probably on his way to all of em except one
Cause Saddam's got a missiles and nuclear weapons
And you don't want those things do ya? (Nah)
Maybe when you're old enough to understand a little better
I'll explain it to ya
But for now we'll just say Saddam was real real bad
She was bein mean to Bush and made him real real mad
But I still feel sad that I put him on time-out
Sit back in your chair honey, quit tryin to climb out (WAHH!)

Wake up sweepy head we're here, before we pway
we're gonna take Saddam for a wittle walk along the pier
Baby, don't cry honey, don't get the wrong idea
Saddam's too sweepy to hear you screamin in his ear (Saddam!)
That's why you can't get hin to wake, but don't worry
Dubya made a nice bed for Saddam at the bottom of the lake
Here, you wanna help da-da tie a rope around this rock? (yeah!)
We'll tie it to his footsie then we'll roll him off the dock
Ready now, here we go, on the count of free..
One.. two.. free.. WHEEEEEE! (whoooooshhhhh)
There goes Saddam, spwashin in the wa-ta
No more fightin wit us, no more restraint in order
No more WMD, no more new problems
Blow him kisses bye-bye, tell Saddam you him (Saddam!)
Now we'll go play in the sand, build a castle and junk
But first, just help Bush with two more things out the trunk

11 posted on 12/03/2002 5:44:25 AM PST by hchutch
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To: hchutch
Oops, that She in the first verse ought to be He...

Bonus points for anyone who can name the song just parodied.
12 posted on 12/03/2002 5:45:13 AM PST by hchutch
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To: rintense
BUMP!!! something stinks about this whole affair...
13 posted on 12/03/2002 5:45:53 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: camle
inneresting choice of dates, Pearl Harbor anniversary...

I was thinking the same thing ..

So the question is what game are they playing by handing their list in a day early??

14 posted on 12/03/2002 5:45:54 AM PST by Mo1
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To: blondee123
If they have no WMD, they should stop threatening their use. (Of course they have WMD.) Dec 7th as in they think they're pulling a Pearl Harbor on us? I guess that's why Saddam has moved to his underground death chamber. (I mean command center.)
15 posted on 12/03/2002 5:47:52 AM PST by 11B3
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To: camle; rintense; 2sheep
I think we will find out on December 7th or 8th what Bush already knows. But Saddam is not an idiot .... He is quite mad, and homocidal, and demented, and certainly satanic, but he is not really an idiot.

Saddam is sitcking his thumbs in both ears, while his wiggling his fingers in the air, and sticking his out his bloody tongue, he says 'naa naa na naaa na na' like a demented child. He is saying, "You won't find WMD here because we shipped them out to al Qaeda last year ..."

GWB's answer is, "Moron. We know .....!" KAAAA BOOOOMB !

16 posted on 12/03/2002 5:48:50 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Mo1
KYW just reported that we are expecting a huge document dump, probably in Arabic, that will take the UN weeks to go through--all in their attempt to buy time. I also think Dec. 7 is not coincidence.
17 posted on 12/03/2002 5:53:21 AM PST by twigs
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To: 11B3
I guess that's why Saddam has moved to his underground death chamber. (I mean command center.)

An interesting essay in Newsweek last week said that Saddam has made no preparations to fortify Baghdad, or any other place, at all. He is completely counting on charming the UN for additional time so that the US will be hamstrung into not attacking. I think Mr. Saddam is underestimating the current President Bush. At least I hope so.

18 posted on 12/03/2002 5:56:15 AM PST by twigs
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To: twigs
that will take the UN weeks to go through--all in their attempt to buy time.

Sounds like a stall tactic to me ... However, time is not on their side

19 posted on 12/03/2002 5:56:18 AM PST by Mo1
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To: ex-Texan; American in Israel; Thinkin' Gal
>KAAAA BOOOOMB
August 16, 2002

SADDAM HAS NUKES, OPTS FOR PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE [AGAINST U.S.]

The latest intelligence assessments reaching DEBKA-Net-Weekly agree that Saddam Hussein has decided to take pre-emptive military action rather than wait for the US hammer to drop. They also detail the horrific arsenal at his disposal for such action. It includes more than 40 nuclear weapons, six to eight of them bombs and nuclear warheads that can be delivered by missile or plane.

In particular, the Iraqi leader has set his sights on hitting US military forces in the Middle East as well as Turkey, Kuwait, Bahrain, Jordan and Israel. He is also determined to reach into the United States itself through proxy terrorists run by Iraqi military intelligence.  This latest intelligence consensus supersedes the basic presumption previously held by US and Israeli strategists that Saddam would not launch a counter-strike with unconventional weapons unless attacked first - and then only if he felt his life and regime were in jeopardy.

As for the scope of Iraq’s unconventional weaponry, the revised evaluation is the first official confirmation that Saddam possesses up to 40 nuclear devices, probably half of them radiological, or “dirty”, bombs with a limited-radius contamination capability; but also apparently six to eight - and perhaps as many as 10 - nuclear bombs and warheads that can be delivered by fighter-bombers or surface-to-surface missiles.

Iraqi experts are said to have been instructed in payload assembly and delivery technology by Russian and Eastern European technicians who manpower companies in Belarus and Croatia and whose services Iraq bought with multi-million dollar fees.  Furthermore, says the updated intelligence assessment, Iraq has laid hands on enough enriched Uranium-235 to build another 20 to 30 nuclear devices.  - DEBKA-Net-Weekly


20 posted on 12/03/2002 5:56:41 AM PST by 2sheep
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To: twigs
He is completely counting on charming the UN for additional time so that the US will be hamstrung into not attacking.

His problem here .. President Bush does NOT take orders from Anna Coffee

21 posted on 12/03/2002 6:00:06 AM PST by Mo1
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To: blondee123
December 7 th ?????????
22 posted on 12/03/2002 6:00:17 AM PST by genefromjersey
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To: 2sheep
Not that DEBKA has any credibility to strain, but as an Israeli website they should at least realize that if Saddam had so much as two "nukes" he would have launched one at Tel Aviv by now.
23 posted on 12/03/2002 6:37:55 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: camle
my thoughts exactly...
24 posted on 12/03/2002 6:37:59 AM PST by tutstar
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To: pawdoggie; ex-Texan
 Dream - Surprise attack - posted 15 Oct 02

 Vision - Eagle Stabbed in Back - Oct 02

 Dream of Secretly held ICBM America doesn't know about - 16 Sep 02

 Dream of The Eagle of Vengeance - 7 Sep 02 [Rosh Ha Shanah]

 Interpretation of The Eagle and the Lion dream (above)

 Red Alert! - 9 Aug 02 - Billy Blankenship

25 posted on 12/03/2002 6:41:31 AM PST by 2sheep
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To: blondee123
"We are a country devoid of weapons of mass destruction. This fact is known to all countries including the United States of America and Britain and all those concerned."

A truer statement could not be made. These weapons are as good as gone. The man is a prophet.

26 posted on 12/03/2002 6:42:35 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: camle
inneresting choice of dates, Pearl Harbor anniversary...

The Japanese success at Pearl Harbor with trivial losses to themselves can be blamed on the inability of the U. S. political, diplomatic, and military establishments to recognize the capabilities of Japan and the weaknesses in U. S. defense planning as well as a long string of small coincidences and failures that would in any analysis appear to be extremely unlikely to occur in concert.

Replace "Japan" with Iraq or Al Qaeda.

Sodamn Insane is up to something.

27 posted on 12/03/2002 6:54:31 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: blondee123
I can just imaging Saddam doing something so stupid as to launch an attack that day.
28 posted on 12/03/2002 6:55:36 AM PST by Centurion2000
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To: twigs
"KYW just reported that we are expecting a huge document dump, probably in Arabic, that will take the UN weeks to go through--all in their attempt to buy time."

This is the same thing the Xlinton did in one of the major Congressional investigations. It is a successful stratgy for buying time. Saddam and Xlinton; so much alike.
The authorities will be impeded all the more because of all the subtle nuances in the Arabic language.
29 posted on 12/03/2002 7:47:01 AM PST by VMI70
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To: VMI70
Hmmm... What if the document dump is submitted, and then a couple of days later (max) there is something like this:

"Well, we've gone over the documents, and it says so-and-so, blah blah blah..."

Y'know, we'll just "translate" the document in the context it is presented >wink<. Saddam will have coronary in an attempt to "explain" the meaning of the document.

Then again, it could all be moot if there is a new Pearl Harbor soon. In the dark parts of my heart, I feel this is what will happen...
30 posted on 12/03/2002 7:56:55 AM PST by Frank_Discussion
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To: rintense
He'd really be asking for trouble if he started taking hostages.
31 posted on 12/03/2002 8:02:22 AM PST by KansasConservative
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To: blondee123; MeeknMing
I think the Prez has proof of what Iraq will deny.....! SAD-dam is SUNK.
32 posted on 12/03/2002 8:52:49 AM PST by WaterDragon
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To: blondee123
They're already in material breach. The only question now is whether Bush has the guts to tell the U.N. to stuff it and hit Iraq, or if he's going to let the terrorist-loving U.N. slow-roll us forever.
33 posted on 12/03/2002 9:04:41 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the heads up!
34 posted on 12/03/2002 10:01:21 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hchutch
RE #11
I knew that sounded familiar as I was reading it. It is an Eminem song, can't remember the name, maybe "Kim". I only know that because on a road trip with a couple of friends we took turns controling the music, and they teamed up on me and we had to listed to all three of his CD's. I am scarred for life.
35 posted on 12/03/2002 10:47:48 AM PST by LonghornFreeper
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To: camle
Yea, and the Iraqis moved it up to that from the 8th of their own volition...
36 posted on 12/03/2002 10:49:52 AM PST by Axenolith
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To: LonghornFreeper
Got the artist, but not the song.
37 posted on 12/03/2002 10:54:42 AM PST by hchutch
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"or if he's going to let the terrorist-loving U.N. slow-roll us forever."

Be honest now - have you seen anything of a substantial nature to indicate otherwise?


38 posted on 12/03/2002 11:34:28 AM PST by sinclair
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To: Axenolith
they did, did they..... hmmm
39 posted on 12/03/2002 12:01:54 PM PST by txhurl
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To: blondee123
I'm beginning to wonder if the UN inspection team is screwing around with their time until this happens. On Dec 7th they will declare they have no weapons of mass destruction and the UN team will head out to to the site they know has em.. find them.. and the US will pound them all straight to hell. I always find the releasing of documents on Dec 7th to be quite symbolic. If it was Monday or Tuesday I wouldn't say so but it's rare for major statements or things to happen on weekends unless there is a summit of some sort.
40 posted on 12/03/2002 2:57:04 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: rintense
"Look for the UN inspectors to become hostages. Wouldn't surprise me in the least".

Why not have a strategy whereby the inspectors can leave the country "temporarily" for a holiday break? After all, if you're the Iraqi gov't, you're not going to find this request unusual, at this time of year. This would allow all to exit safely.

41 posted on 12/03/2002 2:57:32 PM PST by tuna_battle
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To: blondee123
Regardless of what Iraq claims on 7th Dec. 2002, the US and Britain truly believe there are remaining WMD.

The US and Britain will reveal pretty hard evidence, contradicting Iraq's claim of no WMD.

Iraq hopes to buy time, get the UN to debate, obfuscate, delay, etc.

Bush and Blair MAY set a deadline, for pre-emptive military actions. They will say the danger is too great, to wait for the UN.

And while the UN debates, beyond and thru the deadline, a "rolling start" will be initiated, into Iraq. Priority will be high to prevent harm to Israel.

My 2 cents. We live in interesting and dangerous times.

42 posted on 12/03/2002 11:49:53 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
Bush & Blair know something, the loophole in the resolution is that the inspectors don't have to prove a thing, it's up to saddam to prove he DOESN'T have wmd!! Kaboom!!
43 posted on 12/04/2002 1:10:20 AM PST by blondee123
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To: truth_seeker
And a good two cents it is.

As another FReeper noted, we or someone dear to us may have sold them some items that had better show up on the declaration. If they don't, we show them the receipt and it's on.

44 posted on 12/04/2002 2:46:15 PM PST by txhurl
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