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Goodbye Europe (Steyn Alert)
The American Enterprise Online ^
| 12/5/02
| Mark Seyn
Posted on 12/05/2002 3:15:51 PM PST by TomB
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To: Gritty
So,in about a generation or so Europe will be Muslim controlled, and we will be at war with stronger Islamist.
To: Paleo Conservative
I hear a voice asking this question from about 800 A.D. in Constantinople!
To: centurion
So,in about a generation or so Europe will be Muslim controlled, and we will be at war with stronger Islamists. If they stay true to form, they will plunder Europe and leave it a devastated wasteland. There may be more of them, but they won't be any stronger.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:16:10 PM PST
by
Loyalist
To: Steve_Seattle
Traditional religious belief is much stronger in the U.S.A, and I think that is one factor that makes us take the Islamic threat more seriously.Traditional religious belief may very well be one factor. But it isn't the only factor.
Our form of government which allows for different parties to hold the White House and the Congress is also one of those factors. It's held us closer to the middle than the European parliamentary systems have.
With the western shift to socialistic thinking (and we are certainly not immune to it here) we'd probably have gone down the same road as the Euros and the Canadians had we been left with a parliament instead of the Constitution.
You religious types wish to forget that many of us on the right are not religious at all -- we're here, though. And I guess we help each other.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:27:01 PM PST
by
BfloGuy
To: TomB
A man fell off a 100-story building. At the 50th floor, someone called out a window, "How's it going?" The falling man replied, "So far, so good."
In Western Europe, "So far, so good."
Sell your Euros.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:43:52 PM PST
by
Rocky
To: TomB
"Surely the first time in Dutch political history that a fruitarian had killed a fruit Aryan."
Pretty succinct.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:46:52 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: knighthawk
When will the Dutch begin to fight for national survival?
Is the very idea of defending your culture now taboo?
To: knighthawk
So in 25% of the schools in the Randstad (the Rotterdam-Amsterdam-Utrecht area) put Sinterklaas on another day, and celebrated sugaerfest instead. And in some schools they removed the cross from the headgear of Sinterklaas, because 'some people could take a cross as an offense'. Stunning news. Frightening, even.
The Dutch are forgetting who they are. Some, anyway.
Or they are not proud of who they are. Which is the same thing.
Not to say that we don't have the same problem in the United States.
This from a doughty little country that colonized almost a third of the known world, using small, round-bottomed boats...
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posted on
12/05/2002 6:17:02 PM PST
by
okie01
To: centurion
So,in about a generation or so Europe will be Muslim controlled, and we will be at war with stronger Islamist.
They will be a bunch of welfare raised uneducated walking dead living in a new Dark age and no threat to anyone but themselves . If the Middle East didn't have oil for $$$$ they would be back in the cave man era.
And Europe has no natural resources outside of Russia . And even if they did who the hell is going to set up the means of production, this bunch of rag headed parasitic rabble
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posted on
12/05/2002 7:13:27 PM PST
by
uncbob
To: uncbob
I agree, by that point, if all goes well, the United States will be so military and economically powerful that no group of European weaklings will constitute a threat. With any amount of luck, we will have instituted military and trading agreements with countries that will really count, i.e., India, Turkey, Isreal, Russia, and, if things fall into place, economically strong Latin American states. Who will need Europe at that point in history?
I suppose that I can just kiss off my modest investment in a European stock fund, made eight years ago, when I didn't know any better.
The caveat, of course, is that we don't make the same mistake that Europe is in the process of doing: destroying our national identity.
To: Travis McGee
When will the Dutch begin to fight for national survival? Is the very idea of defending your culture now taboo?
Not if you're a Muslim...
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posted on
12/05/2002 8:49:29 PM PST
by
copycat
To: Steve_Seattle
"I've argued with Canadians and Europeans on-line who are more afraid of Bush and the "Christian Right" than they are of radical Islam. This piece should be required reading for those people. But as Steyn points out, "Almost any issue worth talking about has been ruled taboo." Those allegedly super-smart Europeans are committing cultural suicide, they are throwing everything away, and they simply haven't a clue what awaits them."So true...and the Democratic Socialists in this nation seem to think these nations are a good model. (Remember how often we heard "the Europeans are laughing at us for making such a big deal out of having a sleazeball like Clinton defiling the Oval Office"?)
This nation didn't become great by following any other nation's lead.
As for your point about their being more afraid of Bush and the "Christian Right", such witness to the fact that this is the Truth that the Deceiver does not want those he is leading astray to discover is seen all the time. One can have lengthy cocktail party discourse on the various aspects of Buddhism, or Islam or Hinduism or any world religion, but mention the name of Christ and people start getting "offended". It's a phenomenon that is fascinating to hear people, such as myself, talk about the experience of having been blind members of the wrong army in the continuing spiritual warfare that most in the world have no idea we all are active participants in and have the blinders fall away.
Changed lives!...the only tangible proof of the Truth of the Bible and God's wonderful plan of salvation...PRAISE GOD!
To: TomB
When they are in the majority, they will burn the museums and art galleries. They will blow up the medieval cathedrals, baroque churches, the Sistine Chapel, and Saint Peter's.
To: Nogbad
Bump
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posted on
12/06/2002 2:10:57 AM PST
by
Nogbad
To: Travis McGee
It has been for quite a while.
Years ago if you were wearing an Dutch-army jacket, with a tiny flag on your sleeve, you could be dragged into court, because it offended people! It became big news, and a journalist asked that how it was possible Turkish youths could wear leahter jackets with huge Turkish-symbols on the back, some were even Gray Wolves symblos, the extremist Turkish organization (still not banned in the Netherlands).
We are lost. Some are trying to stand, but the AEL wants to become big in the Netherlands. A Dutch version of the riots in Antwerp is not too far away.
To: okie01
We lost our will to fight centuries ago. The Dutch used to rule the waves. We fought the Spanish and even won sometimes.
But socialist/liberals wrecked the place.
To: knighthawk
You Europeans need to give power back to your royal houses IMHO as soon as you became Democratic everything went to hell.
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posted on
12/06/2002 3:57:23 PM PST
by
weikel
To: TomB
Ping for later read. But I've sent the "fruit Aryan" thing to everybody I know!
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posted on
12/06/2002 4:05:24 PM PST
by
livius
To: TomB
BTTT
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posted on
12/06/2002 6:29:11 PM PST
by
MoJo2001
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