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UN (UNITED NITWIT) Council Delays Iraqi Arms Document Distribution
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Posted on 12/06/2002 1:54:21 PM PST by areafiftyone

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.N. Security Council members decided on Friday to delay distribution of Iraq's mammoth and eagerly awaited declaration of its dangerous weapons programs until U.N. inspectors had a chance to screen it.

Iraq will present the document to the United Nations in Baghdad on Saturday at 8 p.m. local time, one day before it is due under a tough Nov. 8 council resolution that laid the groundwork for a resumption of weapons inspections 10 days ago and possible war against Iraq.

Although the declaration, estimated to be at least 10,000 pages long, will be delivered to New York on Sunday, the 15 Security Council members will not receive a copy until later, according to Colombia's U.N. ambassador, Alfonso Valdivieso, this month's council president.

No date was given for the declaration's release by Hans Blix, the chief U.N. weapons inspector, who told reporters: "Now this will take a little bit of time."

Diplomats said it could take a week before council members, including the United States, would get a copy but they would discuss logistics sometime next week.

The document will be screened to see if any parts contribute to weapons proliferation, such as how to build a bomb. Blix said it would be judged in line with international treaties on chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

The declaration is to be flown on Sunday from Baghdad to Vienna, seat of the International Atomic Energy Agency, responsible for nuclear arms inspection teams.

In New York, it will be given to Blix's U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, known as UNMOVIC, in charge of accounting for chemical and biological arms and ballistic weapons programs.

Both UNMOVIC and the IAEA, headed by Mohamed ElBaradei, will scan the material to see which parts should be held from public view and then reproduce it for transmission to council members. About 8,000 pages are for UNMOVIC, and 2000 for the IAEA, diplomats said.

"While all of us were thinking we might be reacting to the declaration on Monday, it's going to take a bit longer than that," said one western Security Council diplomat.

The resolution not only required Iraq to submit any information on its past and current weapons programs but give in detail any materials in its civilian industries, such as petrochemicals, that could be used in illegal weapons.

Iraq's U.N. ambassador, Mohamed Aldouri, said he had been told "there are new elements in the report" but he did not know what there were. "It is a very huge, a very thick report."

He repeated Baghdad's claim that Iraq no longer had any weapons of mass destruction, despite U.S. assertions to the contrary. "Everything has been destroyed. Iraq is clean of any kind of mass destruction weapons. We provided all information they need," Aldouri said.

He was asked if the declaration contained embarrassing information on which countries or firms had helped Iraq build its arsenal. But Aldouri said he had not seen the document.

MATERIAL BREACH

The Bush administration has been laying the groundwork to declare Iraq in "material breach" of the Nov. 8 resolution, saying they have evidence, which they have not released to inspectors, that Baghdad has weapons of mass destruction. Such a declaration could lead to war.

But the resolution makes it clear that any breach would have to be verified by the inspectors, either on the ground or through their own analysis. The Security Council, in adopting a tough resolution, wanted to make sure Washington could not declare a violation by itself and then attack Iraq, claiming U.N. backing.

The resolution also says that false statements in the declaration have to be coupled with other violations before a new material breach can be declared to the council, which has to assess the information but not necessarily authorize military action.

Consequently, the White House has criticized Blix and the inspectors on three consecutive days this week, saying he was resisting more aggressive inspections and was hesitant to spirit Iraqi scientists out of the country.

"We are not going to trash the inspectors," a British official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "We see inspections as a real last opportunity for Iraq, not as a trip wire for war."

Other diplomats said privately Washington seemed to be rushing the inspectors, who only returned to Baghdad 10 days ago after a four-year hiatus, in order to keep its own military timetable.


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1 posted on 12/06/2002 1:54:22 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Question:..will it be the NY Times or the Washington Post that gets hold of a copy first and prints it.....oh, say..on Tuesday....
2 posted on 12/06/2002 1:57:13 PM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050
LOL - I forgot about the NY Slimes. They have people in low places who will probably get this info for them.
3 posted on 12/06/2002 1:58:31 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: ken5050
Neither....the Telegraph...on Monday!
4 posted on 12/06/2002 2:00:43 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: areafiftyone
I have my own theory about how the war will start. Obviously, we know SH has WMD's..and we're probably closely monitoring several sites.....so, I'd say a few hours after the Iraqi documents are released...we'll capture an Iraqi site, and invite the UN inspectors and the world media in to take a look-see.....then we'll start the war..
5 posted on 12/06/2002 2:01:20 PM PST by ken5050
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To: areafiftyone
Oh no, not during the present new moon. ;-)
6 posted on 12/06/2002 2:02:26 PM PST by flamefront
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To: areafiftyone
Extra time to blot out the words "from France". We must be sophisticated about this.

< /sarcasm>

7 posted on 12/06/2002 2:02:50 PM PST by Shermy
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To: areafiftyone
Rush said today, it’s going to take time to translate 13,000 pages because it’s in Arabic. An obvious delaying tactic.
8 posted on 12/06/2002 2:06:27 PM PST by demlosers
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To: areafiftyone
HANS BLIX : General Powell, this is an unexpected pleasure. We're honored by your presence.
GENERAL POWELL : You may dispense with the pleasantries, Inspector. I'm here to put you back on schedule.

The inspector turns ashen and begins to shake.

HANS BLIX : I assure you, General Powell, my men are working as fast as they can.
GENERAL POWELL : Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.
HANS BLIX : I tell you, Iraq will be disarmed as planned.
GENERAL POWELL : The President does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.
HANS BLIX : But he asks the impossible. I need more men.
GENERAL POWELL : Then perhaps you can tell him when he arrives.
HANS BLIX (aghast) : The President's coming here?
GENERAL POWELL : That is correct, Commander. And he is most displeased with your apparent lack of progress.
HANS BLIX : We shall double our efforts.
GENERAL POWELL : I hope so, Inspector, for your sake. The President is not as forgiving as I am.

9 posted on 12/06/2002 2:06:28 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: areafiftyone
10,000 pages of obfuscation...hmmmm...wonder if they hired any ex-IRS employees to help them write it?
10 posted on 12/06/2002 2:07:28 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Shermy
Indeed, the only reason to delay is to edit.
11 posted on 12/06/2002 2:07:41 PM PST by American in Israel
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To: areafiftyone
The London Times or Telegraph will have it online before the UN can do its steppit fetchit stall routine.

Remember how they had Tony Blair's data the night before it was present in the UN. I got a call and an email from friends in London, and they told me about the full article.

I linked posted a thread about the article and made the links. We had the article before the NY Slimes could lie about it.
12 posted on 12/06/2002 2:07:43 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: EternalVigilance
It'll turn out to be the Bagdad phone book....
13 posted on 12/06/2002 2:14:07 PM PST by ken5050
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To: areafiftyone
"Although the declaration, estimated to be at least 10,000 pages long, will be delivered to New York on Sunday, the 15 Security Council members will not receive a copy until later, according to Colombia's U.N. ambassador, Alfonso Valdivieso, this month's council president."

Why does it take 10,000 pages to say "we don't HAVE any WMD?" And why the delay...does it have to be edited and all agressive language taken out?

14 posted on 12/06/2002 2:15:37 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: colorado tanker
Continuing...

PRESIDENT BUSH: Mr. Blix? Did I hear that right?
HANS BLIX: Hear what, Mr. President?
PRESIDENT BUSH: That you need more men and a doubling of your efforts?
HANS BLIX: Er, you were listening?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes. I hereby offer the services of the United States military, who will be destroying the weapons as they find them.
HANS BLIX: But, but but...
PRESIDENT BUSH: No 'but's; I insist. We'll start with these coordinates we saw the Iraqis moving their weapons to when they found out about your "unannounced" inspections.
General Franks, you may proceed.

15 posted on 12/06/2002 2:15:38 PM PST by steveegg
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To: areafiftyone
I don't get it.If they have no weapons of mass destruction why does that take 10,000 pages? You simply write the statement:"I have no weapons of mass destruction" and send it into the UN?BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
16 posted on 12/06/2002 2:16:55 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: steveegg
If Iraq has no WMDs, then why don the UN inspectors need the protective hazard suits?
17 posted on 12/06/2002 2:17:35 PM PST by ken5050
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To: areafiftyone
Both UNMOVIC and the IAEA, headed by Mohamed ElBaradei, will scan the material to see which parts should be held from public view and then reproduce it for transmission to council members. About 8,000 pages are for UNMOVIC, and 2000 for the IAEA, diplomats said.

Let me see; the parts that will be held from public view will be any mention of military uses of the dual-use technologies involved, where these activities occured, and where the finished products are. They'll be delayed until whatever weapons Saddam does have are positioned for final delivery.

18 posted on 12/06/2002 2:18:55 PM PST by steveegg
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To: cake_crumb; lexington minuteman 1775
You asked why it takes 10,000 pages to say "No WMD". The story says...
The resolution not only required Iraq to submit any information on its past and current weapons programs but give in detail any materials in its civilian industries, such as petrochemicals, that could be used in illegal weapons.
They obviously can't say "Never had WMD, never had anything that could be WMD." They figure that if they say "No WMD now", there'll be enough historical fact in the disclosure of their previous efforts to cover the lie and let the French, Russians and Red Chinese all use their vetoes with straight faces.
19 posted on 12/06/2002 2:23:13 PM PST by steveegg
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To: ken5050
The "inspectors" don't need protective suits because they're only going where they know the weapons and their precursors AREN'T, and they're giving the Iraqis enough notice to scrub things down in case there's still traces around.
20 posted on 12/06/2002 2:24:28 PM PST by steveegg
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