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Dinner & Taxes
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Posted on 12/06/2002 9:07:35 PM PST by BOBWADE

I was having lunch with one of my favorite clients last week and the conversation turned to the government's recent round of tax cuts.

'"I'm opposed to those tax cuts," the retired college instructor declared, "because they benefit the rich. The rich get much more money back than ordinary taxpayers like you and me and that's not fair.'"

"But the rich pay more in the first place," I argued, "so it stands to reason that they'd get more money back."

I could tell that my friend was unimpressed by this meager argument. So I said to him, "let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand."

"Suppose that every day 10 men go to a restaurant for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If it was paid the way we pay our taxes, the first four men would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1; the sixth would pay $3; the seventh $7; the eighth $12; the ninth $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59."

The 10 men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20." Now dinner for the 10 only costs $80. The first four are unaffected. They still eat for free. Can you figure out how to divvy up the $20 savings among the remaining six so that everyone gets his fair share? The men realize that $20 divided by 6 is $3.33, but if they subtract that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would end up being paid to eat their meal.

The restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same percentage, being sure to give each a break, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so now the fifth man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in $2, the seventh paid $5, the eighth paid $9, the ninth paid $12, leaving the tenth man with a bill of $52 instead of $59.

Outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," complained the sixth man, pointing to the tenth, "and he got $7!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got seven times more than me!"

"That's true," shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $7 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor."

Then, the nine men surrounded the tenth man (the richest one, paying the most) and beat him up. The next night the richest man didn't show up for dinner, so now the nine men sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They were $52 short!

"And that, boys, girls and college instructors, is how America's tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table any more. There are lots of good restaurants in Switzerland and the Caribbean."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: liberals; taxcut; taxes
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I got this in an email the other day and thought it was great.
1 posted on 12/06/2002 9:07:35 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
Bump - good one.
2 posted on 12/06/2002 9:12:40 PM PST by ThePythonicCow
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To: zip
ping
3 posted on 12/06/2002 9:13:36 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
I'm saving that one!
4 posted on 12/06/2002 9:15:05 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
I got a real big kick out of it but my liberal neighbor at work was offended. I guess the truth must hurt.
5 posted on 12/06/2002 9:24:24 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
Great Post!
Bump
6 posted on 12/06/2002 9:27:53 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: BOBWADE
I tried using this argument once with a liberal/socialist, it didn't work. Her argument was along some kind of bull "progressive" crap and she called the rich guy selfish. Then again, she's an idiot who also claimed(I swear to god I have never heard of this, this will rank as all time liberal stupidity) that charging people the same price for anything (i.e. a burger costs $2.99, etc) is wrong, and that prices should be based on income too or how much money you have.....Needless to say, she had no idea on how to implement this, only that "government could figure out a way". By the way I live in New York City.
7 posted on 12/06/2002 9:42:28 PM PST by Sonny M
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To: Sonny M
Liberals are either "wannabes" or "wannahaves". Typically just a bunch of sheep with a few intelligent handlers using them for power.
8 posted on 12/06/2002 9:50:30 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
Hey, that puts it in perspective. Great find.
9 posted on 12/06/2002 10:18:15 PM PST by zip
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To: BOBWADE
The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction.

The tenth man (the richest) didn't benefit in that tired worn out story...He went from paying 59% of the bill to 65% of the bill.

The restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same percentage, being sure to give each a break, ...that would be 20%.

The owner reduced the price by 20%. The "rich man's" part of the bill should have been $47.20, the ninth would have been $14.40, eighth-$9.60, seventh-$5.60, sixth-$2.40, fifth-$0.80.....

If I were the "rich man", after the owner tried to pull a fast one on me like that I wouldn't go back either....

The rich man didn't benefit even by the story's convoluted math. Sorry, but a screwy tax system aside, the story is a mis-leading joke.

10 posted on 12/06/2002 10:24:39 PM PST by lewislynn
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Anybody who is willing to let "government figure out a way" to do anything is simply admitting that they are too f**king stupid to be standing within twelve feet of you, and you really ought to move away from them.

Oh yes, she has all the cranial capacity of a lima bean, bro, I hope you had a good laugh.
11 posted on 12/06/2002 11:22:02 PM PST by Demosthenes
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To: lewislynn
The math did look fuzzy but it did point out that the ones whining about the tax cut were the freeloaders.
12 posted on 12/07/2002 6:00:58 AM PST by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
It is great; it's a keeper and I'll be emailing it to a few friends on both sides of the slate.
13 posted on 12/07/2002 10:21:43 AM PST by Lady Jag
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To: BOBWADE
This is great!
14 posted on 01/23/2003 6:07:19 PM PST by gorush
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To: brewcrew; WIladyconservative; afraidfortherepublic; spunkets; ninenot; Blackhawk; steveegg
bump
15 posted on 01/26/2003 8:35:07 AM PST by gorush
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To: gorush
Here in Wisconsin we have a rich Senator who thinks that no one needs a tax cut -- Herb Kohl.
16 posted on 01/26/2003 9:49:36 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Wait til he realizes his 1000 percent profit on the sale of the Bucks . . . maybe he'll sing a different tune . . . but probably not.
17 posted on 01/26/2003 1:41:10 PM PST by WIladyconservative
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To: gorush; BOBWADE
Thanks for the bump and the find. IIRC, Charlie Sykes read this last week, but it's good to read it.
18 posted on 01/27/2003 7:26:17 AM PST by steveegg
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To: WIladyconservative; afraidfortherepublic
Wait til he realizes his 1000 percent profit on the sale of the Bucks . . . maybe he'll sing a different tune . . . but probably not.

Nobody's Senator Kohl already has a 50% tax cut on that (thanks to those EEEEEEEEE-VILLLLL Republicans); very-long-term capital gains (on investment vehicles held more than 5 years) top out at 18% (those in the 10/15% bracket pay 8%), compared to 20% for those held 1-5 years (those in the 10/15% bracket pay 10%) and normal confiscatory rates for "short-term" (held less than a year) capital gains.

19 posted on 01/27/2003 7:30:21 AM PST by steveegg
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I really have no problem with him realizing 1000% profit on his pending sale of the Bucks. That's what investment and business is all about. I have a great deal of problem with him saying that the rest of us peons don't need a tax cut. Until he struggles to meet modest monthly bills, he has no right to make decisions for ME.
20 posted on 01/27/2003 8:01:08 AM PST by WIladyconservative
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