Horrors of stoning captured on film

Washington Times ^ | 12-09-02 | Arnold Beichman

[astounded]

AFL:

You hit the nail on the head - if Islam takes us over, we will no longer have any freedom. This is no joke - we Americans are in a war literally for our way of life against Islam. The muslims seek to defeat us - take us over - through violence and - this is key - through infiltration by immigration. Unless Americans - what is left of us who speak English as a first language - revolt and coerce the "government" to close and secure our borders soon, we are in real danger of being taken over from inside through the political process. Already, France is in real danger of falling to Islam, and could be followed by England, thence the rest of Europe. The leftists in the media and academia have it wrong - this war is about the West versus Islam - not the West versus terror. Wake up America, before it's too late.

[Hatteras]

Well, they didn't exactly use the generators in Raleigh to electrocute this guy. But they needed power in the facility, including the little mixing machine, to go about their business. I guess people figured if the area was shut down, schools and shopping closed due to the loss of power, then the execution, it would stand to reason, would be put off a day or two. I guess not.

Of course, for the Democratic Governor Easley, the timing couldn't have been better. No one was paying attention due to the ice storm so it got very little coverage.

[Delbert]

Sounds like a bad way to go...unfortunately in Iran..they probably only blasphemed Allah or something like that...and that got them killed. Stoning was the common form of capital punishment even in the Bible.

[Delbert]

I would not feel so all alone.....Everybody must get stoned<--Bob Dylan

[Doctor Stochastic]

"...With her head tucked underneath her arm, she walks the Bloody Tower...."

[Doctor Stochastic]

Singapore uses caning.

[MHGinTN]

Careful, Bob, the stoning phenomenon is designed to stir the blood thirsty stoners (have to have irrational followers, don'tcha know) as much or not more than it is designed to execute a criminal. Is there glee to be found in cruel, torturous methods of killing a rabid dog?... Or should the dog merely be exterminated to prevent further danger to society?

[buffyt]

But they are Muslim and Islam is a religion of peace.......

[Hatteras]

"No one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle!"

[Deep_6]

re:
"...In America someone is executed through painless....[yada-yada]"

Unless you can personally attest to the lack of pain or feeling that the brain
has; the absolute emotions one feels at the the time of death, you cannot
possibly determine that one style of execution is more or less "painless"
than another.

Being smacked unconscious by a rock to the head, may be more "humane"
than being strapped to a chair [like "old sparky"] with the wrong voltage applied,
or have the wrong dosage of chemicals injected into your arm.

Likewise, as noted in earlier posts, having one's head lopped off after
a "blood letting" ceremony and after drugs to delude ones senses, is certainly
as applicable as a "humane" method, as cyanide or any other method we use.

In the USA, many innocent individuals have suffered the death penalty.
Where then, is your argument?

I stated earlier and will say it again:

There are many that would like to rid this Nation of the death penalty. With
each denouncement of another nation's method will bring an equal amount
of denouncement of our method.... Within the ranks of our country's legislation.

If that's what you seek, stone away.

 

[wideawake]

As usual, you ignored the point of my post.

People are executed in Iran for "crimes" like adultery and disagreeing with the Koran - i.e. people are executed for hurting other people's feelings.

In the US people are not executed for offending religious leaders or for embarrassing their spouses. They are executed for murdering other human beings in cold blood.

Do you understand the difference? Can you see that their is a distinction in what constitutes a capital crime? Or do you think that making a mullah mad and raping and murdering a seven-year old girl are equivalent offenses that are deserving of equivalent punishments?

Further: in Iran, the executioners go out of their way to intentionally inflict as much pain as possible.

In the US, the intention is not to inflict pain but to avoid inflicting pain.

Do you understand the difference in intentionality? Or do you think that trying to cause someone excruciating pain and trying to avoid causing someone pain are morally equivalent?

I mean, your disingenuousness is getting really silly.

[Deep_6]

re:
"..As usual, you ignored the point of my post....."

 

"AS USUAL"?     Do I sense a bit of prejudice?

 

I didn't ignore it, it didn't pertain to the debate.

Your argument would be valid if there were never an innocent individual
executed in our Nation. There have been innocent victims and there
will continue to be, just as there are innocent and wrongly convicted individuals
incarcerated and/or awaiting their death sentence.

And as long as there is, there is virtually no difference between executing
an individual for disagreeing with a Nation's policy, or killing a human being.

Do you understand that? I would hope you do,  since that is the argument
of those wishing to end our death penalty.

I personally think it's a big mistake to do so, and look at this topic [as it is so
well being broadcast lately], as a device to encourage others to help the fight
to end our death penalty.

You can't denounce another Nation's practices when your own is faulty.
Unless of course, you wish to bring attention to your own faulty system.