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Hollywood Appeasers: Another "peace" coalition by a bunch of left-leaning celebs but with a twist
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | December 11, 2002 | Paul Bond

Posted on 12/11/2002 5:05:43 AM PST by SJackson

Actors Mike Farrell, Matt Damon and Martin Sheen do not want the United States to go to war with Iraq.

Therefore, along with 97 other celebrities, they have formed a group called Artists United to Win Without War.

What the public didn't see at their Tuesday press conference is far more significant than the formation of yet another peace coalition by a bunch of left-leaning celebrities like Jessica Lange, Anjelica Huston and Elliott Gould.

What that significant development is, is the healthy dose of skepticism displayed by the mainstream press at Tuesday’s well-covered Hollywood event.

But first, the group’s statement, scheduled to appear soon in select newspapers:

"War talk in Washington is alarming and unnecessary.

"We are patriotic Americans who share the belief that Saddam Hussein cannot be allowed to possess weapons of mass destruction. We support rigorous United Nations weapons inspections to assure Iraq’s effective disarmament.

"However, a preemptive military invasion of Iraq will harm American national interests. Such a war will increase human suffering, arouse animosity toward our country, increase the likelihood of terrorist attacks, damage the economy, and undermine our moral standing in the world. It will make us less, not more, secure.

"We reject the doctrine – a reversal of long-held American tradition – that our country, alone, has the right to launch first-strike attacks.

"The valid U.S. and U.N. objective of disarming Saddam Hussein can be achieved through legal diplomatic means. There is no need for war. Let us instead devote our resources to improving the security and well-being of people here at home and around the world."

Now for the significance.

An NBC reporter immediately set a skeptical tone for the spirited question and answer session, asking group co-chair Farrell if Artists United to Win Without War isn’t made up of celebrities who were also against the Gulf War a decade ago. Wouldn’t the world be an even more dangerous place if Hussein was not ousted from Kuwait and U.N inspectors weren’t brought in to Iraq back then?

The deft former star of M*A*S*H* said he would have preferred it had the elder President Bush explored "options short of war" before expelling Hussein from Kuwait.

Then Sheen was asked by a couple of reporters why it is that President Bush would threaten war against Iraq if Hussein presented little or no threat to the U.S.

"I don’t know if we’ll ever get the whole truth from this administration – about anything," he answered.

Pressed again as to the president’s motives, Sheen attributed them to mere family pride. "I think he’d like to hand his father Saddam Hussein’s head," Sheen said.

Then there was this exchange between a reporter and Sheen:

"Would you like to see Saddam Hussein overthrown?" the reporter asked.

"I don’t know what you mean," Sheen answered.

"Removed from power," said the reporter.

"I don’t even know what that means," Sheen said.

The undaunted reporter pressed on. "Regime change," he explained.

"I’d like to see that come from the Iraqis, not the Americans," Sheen finally conceded.

Not wanting the other reporters to have all the fun, I asked if, assuming our military were to overthrow Hussein quickly and with few casualties, and then Iraqi citizens were shown dancing in the streets and praising America for liberating them from a torturous dictator, would the Artists United to Win Without War rethink their position? Would they consider they might be wrong, and say so publicly?

Sheen offered, "I’m always open to the possibility that I’m wrong."

The bulk of the answer, though, came from Farrell, who made the point that, just because some Iraqis might applaud such a removal of Hussein, doesn’t make it the right thing to do.

"The idea that somehow the end justifies the means, as you’re suggesting, is exactly contrary to the principles on which this country was founded," Farrell said.

"The idea you suggest, forgive me, is an inappropriate one," he scolded.

The best bit of levity came at the close of the hour-long event. It had been suggested by some of the dozen celebrities in attendance that Artists United to Win Without War was nonpartisan.

Asked to name a Republican among the group, Farrell claimed there were some, but quipped, "I don’t want to out them."

In a room full of skeptical reporters who clearly were not there to rubber-stamp Hollywood’s latest political effort, the very revealing joke went over quite well.


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To: freeperfromnj
where've you BEEN??? Bonnie Rait has been one of the most strident anti-US, anti-GOP, anti-Bush ranters for YEARS.
101 posted on 12/11/2002 8:45:18 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Dionysius
The young, confused lads are still trying to free Heidi Fleischer. Seems they can't get any without her help.
102 posted on 12/11/2002 8:47:02 AM PST by MNChestyPuller
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To: MNChestyPuller
Thanks for the full list. Been looking for it since this story broke and couldn't locate it -- as if some of the 'stars' weren't all that proud to be associated with it.

It's funny how the same old names keep showing up over the years: Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul and Mary for Heaven's sake! Asner, Begley, Glover, Gould, Raitt, Reiner, Sarandon, Sheen, Steinem, Swit, Studs Terkel (an actor?? More like unreconstructed Stalinist writer).

What's most interesting to me is how some of these jerks are consistently showcased by the backstage Hollywood masterminds in important positions. It's no accident that Martin Sheen is presented as an alternate Presidential model in The Left Wing. How many times do certain people have to fail on-screen before the money people say "Enough!" (Ellen DeGeneres comes to mind). When the propaganda message becomes more important than profit, something important is happening behind the scenes. These "front" people couldn't continue to thrive without serious backing from anonymous producers, writers and financiers. We ought to be investigating who they are and why/how they do what they do.





103 posted on 12/11/2002 8:53:42 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: SJackson
Joe Pantolino and Janeane Garafalo were debating O'Reilly last night. Garafalo made the rounds on several shows promoting this leftist crap.So much for the FR rumor that Garafalo is anti-war.
104 posted on 12/11/2002 9:06:34 AM PST by finnman69
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To: conservativemusician
Joe Panoliano did say we should get rid of Saddam. Take him out and spare the Iraqi people. So he is not too far gone.

Garafalo was saying that removing Saddam will make things worse. LOL. She also claimed that thousands of "innocent" Americans will die if we invade Iraq? What innocent Americans is she talking about? Our troops? Whatta dunce.
105 posted on 12/11/2002 9:18:16 AM PST by finnman69
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To: SJackson
At least some of the same protestors criticized the Clinton administration too.

Some familiar names signed this in 2000.

International Action Center, July, 2000

Are the Children of Iraq Our Enemies?

Ten years ago, on August 6, 1990, the U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Iraq. Since then, over one million Iraqis, mostly children under five, have died. 10 years is enough! The military sanctions on Iraq should continue, but the economic sanctions not only do not work, they are killing innocent Iraqi children.

We say, the time has come to stop killing innocent Iraqi children.

Lift the economic sanctions on Iraq now!

Susan Sarandon
Tim Robbins
Martin Sheen
Liam Neeson
Rosie O'Donnel
Jeremy Irons
Robert Altman
Bonnie Raitt
Sr. Helen Prejean
Mike Farrell
Joan Baez
Rev. William Sloane Coffin
Ed Asner
Jackson Browne
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton
Natasha Richardson
Pete Seeger
Rev. Daniel Berrigan, S.J.
Sinead Cusack
Casey Kasem
Philip Berrigan
Richard Gere
John Densmore
Arun Gandhi
Maguire Maguire (Nobel Peace Laureate)
Jose Ramos Horta (Nobel Peace Laureate)
Adolfo Perez Esquivel (Nobel Peace Laureate)
Rev. James Lawson
Rabbi Douglas Krantz
Sr. Joan Chittister
Noam Chomsky
Richard Dreyfuss
Howard Zinn
Todd Oldham
David Dellinger
Ramsey Clark
Dennis Halliday
Dr. Helen Caldicott
Dr. Patch Adams
Elise Boulding
Rev. John Dear (FOR Executive Director)
and the Fellowship of Reconciliation, the largest, oldest interfaith peace organization in the US.

Quote from the same web page:
Leslie Stahl: We have heard that a half million children have died (as a result of economic sanctions against Iraq) more children than died in Hiroshima. ...Is the price worth it?

Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it. - CBS 60 Minutes Interview, May, 1996

106 posted on 12/11/2002 9:27:42 AM PST by syriacus
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To: finnman69
These are the same dunces that said we need to order 100k body bags for American soldiers the first time we went into Iraq! 147 combat casualties later they were pretty silent.
107 posted on 12/11/2002 9:37:20 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: MNChestyPuller
Are we spamming this site, what are we writing, should I tell them to drop dead.
108 posted on 12/11/2002 9:38:59 AM PST by angcat
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To: MNChestyPuller
I'm sorry to see David Duchovny on there. Oh well.
109 posted on 12/11/2002 10:11:21 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: MNChestyPuller
Hmmm...seems like most of the cast and supporting actors from "The X-Files" have signed that thing. Coincidence? Have Reyes and Doggett (both missing from the list)check it out.

And Al Bundy is on the list....say it ain't so, Ed!

110 posted on 12/11/2002 10:12:52 AM PST by hattend
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To: nonliberal
O'Reilly reported that Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford were asked to sign but refused.

Good! I'll bet they didn't even ask R. Lee Ermey.

111 posted on 12/11/2002 10:15:37 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: SJackson
I just hear on Dennis Prager's program that Tom Hanks and Steven Speilberg refused to sign the list.

...Sounds like these guys, as well as Denzel Washington, Halle Berry and other "A" list people, know which side their bread is buttered on.

Regards, T.
112 posted on 12/11/2002 10:28:06 AM PST by T Lady
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To: T Lady
Oops, I just heard.

Regards, T.
113 posted on 12/11/2002 10:30:33 AM PST by T Lady
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To: MNChestyPuller
Thanks for the list. I'll be saving myself some time and money by not supporting these nitwits. I can catch up on my reading, gun cleaning, etc. and all them other chores, I can get done with all the extra time not wasted on these slobs...
114 posted on 12/11/2002 10:32:25 AM PST by ShapeShifter
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To: syriacus
Leslie Stahl: We have heard that a half million children have died (as a result of economic sanctions against Iraq) more children than died in Hiroshima. ...Is the price worth it?

I've never read any justification for this number. What evidence is there that 500,000 children have died?

Anyone?

115 posted on 12/11/2002 10:35:45 AM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: SJackson
"We reject the doctrine – a reversal of long-held American tradition – that our country, alone, has the right to launch first-strike attacks.

Get a grip you bed swapping morons this will not be a first strike against terrorism, but will be in response and retaliation to the many times we have aready been attacked by the unprovoked wannabe Saddams of this nation, the World and by the real McCoy himself.

Did anyone else notice these members of the "Hollywood Penis & Pussy Posse" did not openly go on record and flat out threaten the Bush Administration that they were not to attack these terrorists under any circumstance, which is exactly what they desire covertly, but left themselves some cowardly wiggle room for more bitter and open attacks (from these Dem rats) when it will be less hazardous to their careers to come completely out of their holes with more vitriolic attacks against America.

This truly is a coalition of the biggest gathering of brainless windbags on record outside of the black caucus, the NAACP and their white handlers: ie;the Tom Daschles, the Al Gores, the Allan Colmes', the Nancy Pelosis', the Hilary Clintons and all the rest too numerous to name(who are a mixture of extreme left wing Dem rats and weeny moderate Republicans, oh, they know who they are as do all)and who carry the stench of denial clutched to their bosoms because their inner most thoughts will not survive the light of the truth.

116 posted on 12/11/2002 10:36:25 AM PST by VOYAGER
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To: All
"My disagreement with the peace-at-any-price men, the ultrapacifists, is not in the least because they favor peace. I object to them, first, because they have proved themselves futile and impotent in working for peace, and
second, because they commit what is not merely the capital error but the crime against morality of failing to uphold righteousness as the all-important end toward which we should strive ...

I have as little sympathy for them as they have for the men who deify mere brutal force, who insist that power justifies wrongdoing, and who declare that there is no such thing as international morality. But the ultra-pacifists really play
into the hands of these men. To condemn equally might which backs right and might which overthrows right is to render positive service to wrong-doers...

To denounce the nation that wages war in self-defense, or from a generous desire to relieve the oppressed, in the same terms in which we denounce war waged in a spirit of greed or wanton folly stands on a par with denouncing equally a murderer and the policeman who, at peril of his life and by force of arms, arrests the murderer. In each case the
denunciation denotes not loftiness of soul but weakness both of mind and morals."

~Theodore Roosevelt
117 posted on 12/11/2002 10:50:15 AM PST by FreedomAvatar
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To: nonliberal
"O'Reilly reported that Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford were asked to sign but refused."

That is great to see. Clint rules!

118 posted on 12/11/2002 10:51:27 AM PST by ohioman
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
I’VE JUST HAD A FLASH OF INSPIRATION! If these 99 political activists and humanitarians are so deeply convinced of the moral foundation of love and social equality, I say let them PROVE IT!

All they need to do to gain my unqualified support is for all to donate their entire net values and all future incomes to SAG, so that SAG can divide the monies equally among it’s entire membership. Since there are 100 unemployed members for every one who works, “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs,” there will be 99 more people sleeping in Macarthur Park, walking to work, fighting the ducks for crumbs, and feeling morally superior to us wage slave who cannot ‘create Art’.

Come, On, Mike, lead us to the Promised Land! Go to Iraq, and with the power you have as an Actor, make Saddam stop drilling holes in people, and dipping them in acid. I’m sure if a letter will sway us, think what a personal appearance, with autographs, can do!

119 posted on 12/11/2002 10:55:19 AM PST by jonascord
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To: avg_freeper
The Matrix is a Marxist series.
120 posted on 12/11/2002 11:04:10 AM PST by rmlew
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