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Could Discarded Military Ballots Have Made the Difference for Dean Gardner in that CA Assembly Seat?
Bakersfield Californian ^ | December 7, 2002 | Dianne Hardisty

Posted on 12/11/2002 3:53:14 PM PST by Saundra Duffy

Dianne Hardisty: Some ballots too late to count

Saturday December 07, 2002, 06:30:11 PM

Oscar Meza was disappointed. Richard Beckwith was resigned. And Renee Covey was frustrated and angry.

These three Kern County citizens learned last week after I called them and told them that their ballots were not counted in last month's general election. The absentee ballots of these voters and about 1,000 others were delivered to the Elections Division after the polls closed after 8 p.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 5, Election Day.

It happens every election, according to Abbe Shugart in the Elections Division. Boxes after boxes of absentee ballots are delivered by the U.S. Postal Service too late to be counted. California law requires all ballots to be in elections officials' hands before the polls close.

Despite the theatrics of the Florida vote count and the much trumpeted and long-awaited "military ballots," California law requires even ballots from troops overseas to arrive before the polls close. Each state's laws are different, as we all witnessed in the Florida count. In California, the voting cutoff is clear and consistent from county to county.

As I watched these late ballots trickle into Kern County's Election Division, I wondered: Do these people have a clue that their votes are worthless? How did this happen? I called a few of these voters.

Richard Beckwith of Tehachapi was one of four family members who mailed absentee ballots from the same place and the same time. Three arrived too late to be counted. One arrived on time.

"So how do you feel about that?" I asked Beckwith, who seemed to be quietly pondering his ballot's fate on the other end of the line.

"The post office sucks. We all know it," he blurted out. Beckwith used an absentee ballot to vote because his work schedule did not allow him to go to the polls on Election Day.

Oscar Meza of Tehachapi thought he had allowed enough time for his ballot to reach the Bakersfield Elections Division. "That's really disappointing," he said.

Michael Nowatzki is a train conductor who thought he would be out of town on Election Day. He mailed his absentee ballot in Bakersfield the day before the election, believing mail within the city usually is delivered the next day.

"This is disappointing. I always vote," he said. As it turned out, Nowatzki's work schedule changed and he was in Bakersfield on Election Day. He could have dropped off his absentee ballot at any polling place or at the Elections Division on Nov. 5 and it would have been counted.

Renee Covey, who had gone to a lot of trouble to vote, was a real unhappy camper when I told her what happened to her ballot. The Tehachapi woman was visiting her college student son in Steubenville, Ohio, on Election Day. She arranged to have an absentee ballot mailed to Steubenville.

The ballot arrived on the eve of the election. She filled it out and dropped it into a mailbox, believing it would be treated as tax forms are treated on the April 15 filing deadline. She mistakenly believed that as long as it was postmarked on Election Day, her ballot would be counted.

"That really makes me mad," she said, explaining that she sat up until 3 a.m. watching California election returns. "That's not right."

Covey said she was particularly interested in the governor's race. "I'm so sick of Gray Davis being our governor. I'm just sick about this."

Several people said they mailed their ballots from Southern California several days before the election, but apparently it takes a long time for mail to get over the Tehachapi Mountains.

Of all the people I called, Riolinda Noyce of Taft seemed the most upset. The good news is that Riolinda's ballot arrived on time and was counted. Her ballot was mailed several days before the election from Taft. The bad news is that Riolinda's husband, Dennis, was not so lucky.

Dennis Noyce works on a maintenance team that travels around the state fixing pumps for the state Department of Water Resources. He was working in Los Banos on Election Day.

Riolinda, a native of the Philippines who became a citizen five years ago, is passionate about voting. She sent her husband's absentee ballot to him by "priority mail" and he mailed it back several days before the election.

"It would kill him to know they did not count his ballot," she said. "We believe in everyone's right to vote. We really wanted to vote this time. We didn't want Davis anymore. We wanted to vote for what's-his-name."

"You mean Bill Simon?" I asked, beginning to get a vague idea why what's-his-name might not have won the election.

"Yes, yes, that's him," she said, laughing. "I even went to San Diego and campaigned for him."

"Who? What's-his-name?"

"Yes, what's-his-name," she laughed, acknowledging Simon may have had a name recognition problem.

So, what's a voter to do if he or she decides to cast an absentee ballot and wants to make sure it's counted?

Shugart at the Elections Division advises returning ballots as early as possible. If you have any concerns about delivery, ballots can be dropped off at the Elections Division in the Kern County Government Center on Truxtun Avenue in Bakersfield. If the office is not open, a secured dropbox is available in the courtyard between the building and the parking structure to the south.

Ballots also can be dropped off at any polling place in the county on Election Day.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: gardner; parra; voterfraud
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Apparently it's okay in California to throw military ballots in the trash if they're received even one day late. I heard there were 1,500 military ballots in this race that were received too late. Lemoore Naval Air Station is in this district. Too bad this columnist didn't take the time to contact military absentee voters to see how they felt about their ballots being flushed down the toilet. Dean Gardner, the Republican (NATURALLY!), lost by about 200 votes and he spent just over $200,000. The democRAT, on the other hand, spent ALMOST TWO MILLION DOLLARS and still almost lost. This race stunk to high heaven and I'm still fuming. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
1 posted on 12/11/2002 3:53:15 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: sweetliberty
Ping for voter fraud/irregularities/outrages. Thanks!
2 posted on 12/11/2002 3:53:58 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: sweetliberty
Just talked to this columnist. I told her it would have been interesting to hear from a military absentee voter to see how they felt about having their ballots trashed. She said it would have been impossible for her to contact military personnel. However, I wish someone would follow up with Lemoore Naval Air Station to get a statement or something. I heard there were 1,500 military ballots trashed which could have made the difference in this race. This is disgusting and I think I'm going to go now and THROW UP!!!!!!!!
3 posted on 12/11/2002 4:04:26 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy; sweetliberty
Great post Saundra! You can bet your sweet bippy that they counted any late Democrat votes....all the while we hear the communist chant that "every vote must count". That only applies to Democrat votes.

I understand why you are furious. Californians voters are going to have to get involved and throw these rat scum cheaters into the Pacific!
4 posted on 12/11/2002 4:07:13 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Saundra Duffy
Makes ya sick bump.
5 posted on 12/11/2002 4:08:26 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: TheLion
Californians voters are going to have to get involved and throw these rat scum cheaters into the Pacific!

Amen!

6 posted on 12/11/2002 4:08:58 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: TheLion; Saundra Duffy
Especially when you consider that the vast majority of California is Republican. It is just that those sprawling urban, Rat infested cesspools along the coast control the elections. Conservatives really have their work cut out for them dealing with the rich and powerful Rats at the helm of whatever goes on there. Saundra, I don't envy you.
7 posted on 12/11/2002 4:14:10 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Ciexyz; TheLion
Well, I did freep the "winner". Here's the report: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/799537/posts
She does not deserve to be sitting in the State Assembly and if the military ballots had been counted, she wouldn't be. I'm pissed!
8 posted on 12/11/2002 4:15:49 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: sweetliberty
I forwarded a link to this thread to CRP Chair. He's a good guy and he's pretty pissed with Republican B.S. right now, too.
9 posted on 12/11/2002 4:17:25 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: TheLion; fieldmarshaldj; Jim Robinson; jigsaw; CounterCounterCulture; tubebender; NormsRevenge; ...
Ping
10 posted on 12/11/2002 4:33:43 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
Bump!
11 posted on 12/11/2002 4:38:50 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion
Thanks for the bump, pal.
12 posted on 12/11/2002 4:43:17 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
This saddens me to see our military voters disenfranchised...shades of Florida and (insert state name here).. and here... and here... and here .. There ought to be a law. Between the South Dakota reservations and their shenanigans getting a demRat elected and now seeing more on this come out, this sucks.
13 posted on 12/11/2002 5:04:08 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: Saundra Duffy
Wow, thanks for letting me know about this. After time #1 you would think Republicans would keep track of those ballots!!!
14 posted on 12/11/2002 5:04:30 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Saundra Duffy
Deja Vu from the presidential election 2000. This is despicable but not unexpected. They got away with it once...why not pull the same stunt again?

Thank-you for bringing this to the fore.

Voter Fraud Bump!
15 posted on 12/11/2002 5:13:18 PM PST by dansangel
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To: Saundra Duffy
bttt
16 posted on 12/11/2002 5:22:04 PM PST by Dante3
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To: A CA Guy
Let me clue you in, CA Guy!

Those absentee ballots were opened and read, and then held up, happens all the time. Some of course, really were late, and by the laws of lalaland, are not counted. It's the law. It's a weakness the the Dems have a special team to handle.
What's more important are the literally hundreds of thousands of those illegal registrations that plague your state. OTOH, I sympathise. Control of our statehouse was lost by 44 votes that the Democrats thought were not important enough to count. There isn't a court in the state that can overturn it. The Democrats count on it.

17 posted on 12/11/2002 5:31:08 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: sweetliberty
I just received this from Steve Frank (former NFRA President):

THIS IS FROM A READER IN KERN COUNTY. THIS IS JUST ONE DISTRICT--HOW MANY MORE FRAUDULENT VOTERS ARE THERE IN CALIFORNIA? IN THIS CASE WE LOST AN ASSEMBLY SEAT.

Yesterday, December 9, 2002, 1,318 cases of voter fraud in the Kern County portion of the 30th Assembly District with documentation was handed to the Kern County Grand Jury. Today, December 10, 2002, copies of the cases are being delivered to the Kern County District Attorney and to Secretary of State, Fraud Division.
18 posted on 12/16/2002 11:41:06 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
Apparently it's okay in California to throw military ballots in the trash if they're received even one day late.

I'm almost certain that federal law doesn't allow for this. If I'm wrong, this needs to be rectified immediately in the next Congress. If I'm right, the F.B.I. needs to announce that they're going to start criminally prosecuting those who violate the law.

20 posted on 12/16/2002 11:52:34 AM PST by jpl
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