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The Dixiecrat Platform
The Smoking Gun ^ | August 14, 1948 | The States Rights Democratic Party

Posted on 12/13/2002 5:24:52 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative

Just so people here understand that Thurmond's run for the White House had nothing to do with lowering taxes or reducing government spending.



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To: nathanbedford
"States rights is an intellectually defensible position and so is the right to freedom of association. This country has made an accomodation of race at the expense of the constitution. This was a good thing but it was an intellectually dishonest thing. (Don't forget this last when you flame)"

Dixiecrat platform was primarily about segregation. State run, white controlled segregation. It stated in its platform that it was pro-lynching. Yeah, that is a big states rights issue.

Is treating another person the same, no matter his skin color, a state's rights issue?

Is allowing the blacks the same rights as yourself, racial accommadation?

Again, read the platform. So. Are you saying that the end of segregation caused all these maladys?

What period do you want to go back to that will fix all these problems the blacks and the whites have?

Did the right to vote cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites

Did the right to sit anywhere on the bus they pleased cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites?

Did the right to attend any school of their choosing cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites?

Did the right to live anywhere they please cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites?

Did the right to eat in the same restuarant as you cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites?

Did the right to drink from the same water fountain cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites ?



I give up. What are we missing today that was present 50 years ago that would fix these problems?

What in the Dixiecrat platform is valid.

Separate but equal, is never equal, when one side gets to decide the rules and how the rights are parcelled out.

Yeah! Let us go back to a better, more simpler time, when men were men, and blacks could be lynched for acting like us men.











121 posted on 12/15/2002 5:23:05 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Ken in Eastman
Well, I would have to prove that I am not by puting myself in the circumstances as Lott. Which I just did.

With support of the platform, one cannot defend charges he is a racist.

If I say I support murder and rape, how do I support a position that I am not for murder and rape?
122 posted on 12/15/2002 5:27:26 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
The point was that one cannot prove a negative which is why under our judicial system one is innocent until proven guilty.

Nice try, but you have yet to prove you -- not Trent Lott -- are not a racist.

And, of course, you are aware Lott has not endorsed the Dixiecrat Platform.

The truth is that none of us know what Lott was thinking when he made his remarks, but I don't think many people would be this upset if:

1- Lott were a Democrat;

2 - Lott were a liberal;

3 - Lott were from Massachussetts; or if,

4 - Lott were a black female.

Just a couple of things for you to think about while you're putting the final knots in your noose.

123 posted on 12/15/2002 5:37:10 AM PST by Ken in Eastman
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To: Ken in Eastman
If we just had a picture of Trent Lott dressed like this...


124 posted on 12/15/2002 5:40:55 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Ken in Eastman
Or this...


125 posted on 12/15/2002 5:41:35 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Ken in Eastman
Or if The George H. Bush Library did this...


THE BLACK LANDMARK THE CLINTON LIBRARY RAZED

126 posted on 12/15/2002 5:43:12 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Ken in Eastman
Thats just it, I do not have to prove a negative under like circumstances as Lott. Lott's statement "beged" the question.

If Lott made a statement saying under the democratic platform this would have been a better country, then the onus is on him to prove otherwise. His actions, not outside charges, changed the burden of persuasion.

I have an adams' apple. I can prove it.

No one is charging they think he said what he said. He said what he said. Big difference in this empty, proving a negative debate.

Lott is in a position of answersing charges the he, and he alone, filed with the court of public opinion.

127 posted on 12/15/2002 5:51:08 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: sneakypete
You don't really have to get married these days do you?

Then, there are all those people out there without a sense of humor - "blue noses" they are called. Heretofore most of them have been in the ranks of the Democrats. In recent years we Republicans have allowed a number of them to join our party.

As could have been expected we have been overrun with "blue noses".

128 posted on 12/15/2002 5:56:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: inkling
will first demand the Democrats remove Byrd and Hollings

What a great idea! I have no doubth that Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, Larry King, Al, Jessie James Carvil, Bill, Hillaryand Tom Brokaw will be jumping right on that band wagon. Boy, with brillaint ideas like this, we got it made!

129 posted on 12/15/2002 6:00:22 AM PST by Flint
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To: Bluntpoint
His actions, not outside charges, changed the burden of persuasion.

And, of course, you would sum up a man's entire career in one statement made to an old colleague. Fortunately, I believe the rest of the country might be a little more fair with Senator Lott than you are predisposed to be.

No one is charging they think he said what he said. He said what he said.

And what he said is not what you are attacking. You have not attacked a hypothetical Strom Thurmond presidency. You have attacked a Dixiecrat platform -- which could not have been passed because the Dixiecrats had no real voting power in the US House or Senate.

Your interpretation of Lott's remarks leaves much to be desired. Lott has not stated he endorsed that platform. You keep saying that he has done so.

To state a Strom Thurmond administration would have been better than a Harry Truman administration is not the same as an endorsement of the Dixiecrat platform. You can twist it, stretch it and torture it, but you cannot make it the same.

With your false assumptions, you have set up a straw man. Pardon me if I am unimpressed to see you topple him.

130 posted on 12/15/2002 6:04:55 AM PST by Ken in Eastman
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To: GraniteStateConservative
GSC,

Thanks for posting the platform. I'd been looking for it for some days now.

Your points are well taken.

131 posted on 12/15/2002 6:08:32 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: Ken in Eastman
"under our judicial system one is innocent until proven guilty. "

Well, politics is not a court of law. If I had been Lott's attorney, and the party would have been a criminal trial, I would have informed him not to testify in his own behalf. Once the defendant testifies on his own behalf, the floodgates have been opened. The prosecutor can practically bring anything into evidence to impeach the defendant's veracity.
132 posted on 12/15/2002 6:11:32 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Ken in Eastman
Listen. This whole matter is not your fault, my fault, the media's fault, the Dems fault.

Trent Lott opened this can or worms. He did so in a purely politcal environment. An envrionment he is not some innocent virgin as to how things work.

This was not your or my senile old grandpa up there who made such statement and is now being pilliared for.

This is a seasoned politician who knows how hardball politics is played. He has played them himself.

Please, don't look to me for any sympathy for his dumbass.
133 posted on 12/15/2002 6:17:28 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Just in case you missed it:

Your interpretation of Lott's remarks leaves much to be desired. Lott has not stated he endorsed the Dixiecrat platform. You keep saying that he has done so and that is false.

To state a Strom Thurmond administration would have been better than a Harry Truman administration is not the same as an endorsement of the Dixiecrat platform. You can twist it, stretch it and torture it, but you cannot make it the same.

Good night.
134 posted on 12/15/2002 6:19:39 AM PST by Ken in Eastman
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To: Ken in Eastman
Your interpretation of Lott's remarks leaves much to be desired. Lott has not stated he endorsed that platform. You keep saying that he has done so.

That is exactly what he did. That was the platform of Strom Thurmond, candidate for president, Dixiecrat party.

If you support the candidacy of Elenor Smeal, NARAL party, are you saying you don't support abortion?

135 posted on 12/15/2002 6:21:03 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
The dixiecrat platform would have made this country a better place to live. There. That would make me a racist. Read their platform.


136 posted on 12/15/2002 7:02:01 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Thanks for posting this.

I had been looking for this around the Net and had been unable to locate a copy.

I _dare_ the northern liberal media to publish this platform.

They won't because they are afraid thirty percent of their readership would agree with it and begin political action to make it so!

As a Northerner who lived in Texas for a while I think the Southern folks have a point. If you want to find virulent racism just visit the many northern white suburbs that ring the black cities.
137 posted on 12/15/2002 7:33:32 AM PST by cgbg
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To: Ken in Eastman
I really hate to see this. I'm not a huge Trent Lott fan and have become less of one since he has "grown" in office.

I don't like him either,and never have. His whole "power sharing" nonsense was the most bizarre thing I think I have ever seen,and even though there was zero chance for a conviction in the Senate,he failed in his OBLIGATION to bring Bubba-1 to trial.Yes,there would have been repurcussions,but in the end,the country would have been better for it.

I would like to see him replaced with a more conservative Republican as Majority Leader, but not at this time.

You might as well wish to win the mega-lottery. Your chances are better. Lott was the Senate leader because the Republicans voted for him to be their leader. When the announcement is made next Friday evening that he is stepping down,his replacement will have the approval of the RINO's in the White House and the RNC,not to mention the approval of the DNC and the Congressional Black Caucus. In short,it will be somebody who makes Bush look like he has a spine.

138 posted on 12/15/2002 9:22:01 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Bluntpoint
Is treating another person the same, no matter his skin color, a state's rights issue?

First off,it is NONE of the state OR feral gooberments business how any of us treat each other on a individual basis,as long as no physical harm results. How the people of each state are treated as official policy IS the business of the state,NOT the feral gooberment. The only time the ferals have the right to stick their noses in is when Constitutional rights are being violated as official state policy.

Is allowing the blacks the same rights as yourself, racial accommadation?

No,but allowing them SPECIAL rights is worse than accomodation,it is discriminating against non-blacks.

Again, read the platform. So. Are you saying that the end of segregation caused all these maladys?

Segregation is practiced all over this country every day,and the only people punished for it are white people.

Did the right to attend any school of their choosing cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites?

When did this happen? Last I heard,the blacks and their commie white friends were screaming for forced integration,where both the black and the other children were TOLD where to go to school,and sometimes this resulted in them spending HOURS away from their neighborhoods and homes as they rode buses.

BTW,the above is THE prime reason we have so much juvenile crime today. Nobody has any sense of "neighborhood" because they don't grow up going to school and making friends with the people they live around. Nobody really knows anybody any more,and there is no sense of "community". While it's true the adults in neighborhoods mostly left the neighborhoods to work,it was their kids who played and socialized together that caused the adults to know one another.

Did the right to live anywhere they please cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites?

NOBODY has a "right" to live anywhere they please. This is a bullshit "right" created out of thin air to please the rich leftists and the racist blacks. You ONLY have a "right" to live somewhere you can afford to live,PROVIDING the person you are buying or renting from is willing to sell or rent to you.

The feral gooberment has passed "regulations" and made "administrative decisions" that have the force of law that TOTALLY takes away the Constitutional RIGHTS of home and property owners to make these decisions about their privately owned property. This is un-Constitutional as hell. The government may have the right and power to regulate how PUBLIC property is managed,but PRIVATE property is none of their legimitate concern.

Did the right to eat in the same restuarant as you cause these problems for the Blacks and Whites?

No,but losing the right to pick and choose your own customers damn sure infringes on the personal freedom of a restaurant owner. If a white restaurant owner wants to have a "whites only" restaurant,he or she has that CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. The right of free association. Blacks STILL have that right,yet a white restaurant owner who tried this would lose his restaurant in the lawsuits in federal court.

Separate but equal, is never equal, when one side gets to decide the rules and how the rights are parcelled out.

Try telling that to the NAACP and the CBC.

139 posted on 12/15/2002 9:49:28 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: muawiyah
You don't really have to get married these days do you?

I don't understand your point,here. You were calling for mandatory inter-racial marriages.

140 posted on 12/15/2002 9:53:14 AM PST by sneakypete
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