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How To Defeat Gay Arguements
Junto Society ^ | 12/14/2002 | Scott Douglas Lively

Posted on 12/14/2002 12:22:41 PM PST by stoney

How to Defeat "Gay" Arguments Written by Scott Douglas Lively, Esq.

Provided by Bob Sperlazzo Informed Christian Digest 12/14/2002

There is no shame in believing a lie until you learn the truth.

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The success of so-called "gay rights" is an amazing triumph of clever deception over simple logic. When it comes to this issue, otherwise intelligent people routinely fall for arguments that just don't hold up under scrutiny. "Gay" sympathizers aren't necessarily more gullible than other people, they are simply tricked into accepting certain conclusions without first examining the underlying premises.

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He who defines the terms controls the debate -- and by extension, public opinion. On this issue the terms have been defined (in many cases invented) by the talented sophists of the "gay" movement.

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Sophistry, it must be noted, is the ancient Greek art of persuasion by subtly false reasoning. The key to overcoming sophistry is to simplify and clarify what the sophists have intentionally made complex and vague. That process begins by defining the terms and concepts being used in the arguments. One quickly discovers that most arguments advocating "gay rights" depend upon hidden false assumptions and deliberately ambiguous terms. It's all smoke and mirrors.

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Among the most common terms and concepts in the "gay rights" debate are: homosexuality, sexual orientation, heterosexism, diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusiveness, discrimination, homophobia and tolerance. These words and phrases are used by "gay" sophists to frame the question of homosexuality as a civil rights issue. It is a context chosen to favor homosexuals to the

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; queer
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1 posted on 12/14/2002 12:22:41 PM PST by stoney
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Fags are the Achilles Heel of the Left. NOBODY (not blacks, not hispanics, N-O-B-O-D-Y) wants their young sons left alone in a room with a fag. This is how we can defeat leftism. It's how we can drive the final, fatal wedge into their ranks. I wish Pubbies would realize that and stop cowering before Political Correctness -- and GO FOR THE JUGULAR!
2 posted on 12/14/2002 12:49:22 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: stoney
Here comes the homofascist Gaystapo...
3 posted on 12/14/2002 12:51:39 PM PST by Guillermo
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To: stoney
Guy goes into the Doctor's office, a piece of apple hanging from one ear, a piece of orange hanging from the other, and stick of celery hanging out his nose.

He's says, "Doc, what's wrong with me."

The Doc says, "Well, in the first place, you're not eating right."

We think that's funny because nobody could be so stupid not to know which organ was made for what? At least we thought that 'til the queers came along.

No fag has ever been able to counter this argument. They don't laugh at the joke either.

Hank

4 posted on 12/14/2002 1:06:05 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: LibWhacker
I wish Pubbies would realize that and stop cowering before Political Correctness -- and GO FOR THE JUGULAR!

If wishes were horses ...

Don't hold your breath.

5 posted on 12/14/2002 1:07:32 PM PST by templar
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To: stoney
Just did a bit of a skim of the full article and saw this:

Gay" Advocate: "No, its not about behavior, its about orientation. I already said that. You can be gay and celibate. Being gay is when the person you fall in love with is the same sex as you. Being straight is when you fall in love with someone of the opposite sex. That's it."

Unfortunately, that is a strawman argument (yes, some gay 'advocates' argue this, but that isn't the 'professional' explanation). I'll have to go through if it falls prey to any other logical fallacies.
6 posted on 12/14/2002 1:15:28 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: stoney
Lengthy but well worth the effort to read.

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7 posted on 12/14/2002 1:32:05 PM PST by JCG
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To: LibWhacker
Fags are the Achilles Heel of the Left. NOBODY (not blacks, not hispanics, N-O-B-O-D-Y) wants their young sons left alone in a room with a fag. This is how we can defeat leftism. It's how we can drive the final, fatal wedge into their ranks. I wish Pubbies would realize that and stop cowering before Political Correctness -- and GO FOR THE JUGULAR!

you need leaders with BALLS to do that

8 posted on 12/14/2002 1:40:13 PM PST by Nat Turner
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To: stoney
bump
9 posted on 12/14/2002 1:45:15 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Nat Turner
Big Brothers doesn't believe that.
10 posted on 12/14/2002 2:26:52 PM PST by eccentric
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To: stoney
If there remains any shadow of doubt as to the cause of homosexuality, we must err on the side of protecting our children.

I love that statement.

While humans and even animals have organs that register pleasure for sex, eroticism is LEARNED.

11 posted on 12/14/2002 2:43:32 PM PST by eccentric
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To: stoney; scripter; *Homosexual Agenda
Bump for later...
12 posted on 12/14/2002 3:07:48 PM PST by EdReform
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To: *Homosexual Agenda
Area Homosexual Thinks He's Still In The Closet

From The Onion. Just trust me. it's funny...

13 posted on 12/14/2002 5:33:28 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: EdReform; Khepera; ppaul; buffyt; L.N. Smithee; conserve-it; g'nad; Clint N. Suhks; Buffalo Bob; ...
Thanks for the ping, EdReform.

From the full article in the analysis, the following statement is made:

The preceding hypothetical conversation is actually a composite of many real discussions between the author and various advocates of the "gay" position. It accurately and honestly portrays the typical comments and attitudes of "gay" defenders. What may be gleaned from this exchange is that one can never truly come to a common understanding with a "gay" sophist, since he or she cares only about winning and not about the truth. Yet there are many people who merely parrot "gay" rhetoric and who are really victims of sophistry, not sophists themselves. These people are persuadable.
Yes, some folks can be persuaded and we need to try to do just that with the facts.
14 posted on 12/14/2002 6:06:18 PM PST by scripter
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To: stoney
Bump for a later read.
15 posted on 12/14/2002 6:29:20 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: stoney
Gay Bob walks into the Doctpr's office,
The doctor says, I have bad news Bob,
Bob says, what is it Doc,
Doc says, you have aids,
Gay Bob says, waht can I do Doc?
Doc says, I want you to eat two boxes of oat bran, a pound of jalepeno peppers, a box of laxitives and drink a bottle of prune juice,
Gay Bob says, will that cure me Doctor,
Doc says, no, but, it will give you a better understanding what your ass is for.
16 posted on 12/14/2002 6:29:52 PM PST by poet
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To: poet
LOL Bump!!!
17 posted on 12/14/2002 7:59:48 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: LibWhacker
Even though I agree with you, the word "fag" will pretty much do nothing but close the minds of anyone who might otherwise be sympathetic to your cause.
18 posted on 12/14/2002 8:02:37 PM PST by That Subliminal Kid
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To: stoney
It's easier than all of that.

1)Homosexuality kills. Check the life sopan for a homosexual male vs. non-homosexual. Check the major U.S. populations with AIDS.

2) Many, MANY, people are now ex-homosexual. Therefore, it's not "genetics and can not be changed."

19 posted on 12/14/2002 8:05:51 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Bump
20 posted on 12/14/2002 8:16:22 PM PST by EdReform
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