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Dogs die to teach Peru's soldiers how to kill (Picture may be disturbing to some)
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 12/15/2002 | David Harrison

Posted on 12/14/2002 4:24:24 PM PST by Pokey78

Barechested commandos brandishing knives take turns to charge towards a live dog, tied and spreadeagled between vertical poles. They slash and stab the helpless, yelping animal until it dies. Then, in a grotesque act of military machismo, the soldiers eat the dog's heart and drink its blood.

 
Learning to kill: a live dog is tied to two poles ready for slaughter

The troops belong to the Peruvian army and the slaughter of the dog is the climax of a series of "bravery tests" to train them to be ruthless killers.

The barbaric ritual has been uncovered by the World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA), a British charity which last night expressed disgust at the cruelty.

Jonathan Owen, a spokesman for the charity, said: "This is one of the worst cases of animal cruelty we have ever come across. Unlike most other forms of animal abuse, there is no commercial motive behind this.

"It is pure, unadulterated cruelty. They are using an animal that cannot defend itself to practise killing. They call it war games but this game always ends in the animal's death."

The cruelty was recorded by a cameraman who was invited to film the army's Otorongo Command Group 125, near Lima, the Peruvian capital. Shocked by what he saw, the cameraman passed the video to the WSPA.

The film shows the soldiers doing a number of other tests before they attack the dog. These include running through a ring of fire, and standing in a circle throwing a grenade to each other before one of them tosses it into the middle and they all dive to the ground as it explodes.

For the final challenge the soldiers run 20 yards towards the suspended dog, clutching an attack knife with an eight-inch blade. Some slash the animal just once; the more enthusiastic stab it repeatedly.

The mongrel can move its head but is otherwise utterly defenceless. It can only scream as the knives rip through its skin. Worse, the dog is a camp pet that belongs to the soldiers, an extra detail to ensure that these killers are rendered truly heartless, unhindered by emotion or sentiment.

Once the animal is dead and the soldiers have completed the test, they put their hands into the open wounds, pull out the innards and heart, tear them up and eat them.

The aim is to turn them into men who are not merely untroubled by the sight of blood, but positively relish it.

The brutal ritual ends with one of the soldiers putting the dog around his neck like a victory laurel and leading the troop on a "lap of honour" around the training ground.

Maj-Gen Peter Davies, the WSPA's director general, said: "There is no justification for such brutal training methods. Inflicting great suffering on a helpless animal is unnecessary, unacceptable and has no place in any civilised armed force."

The Peruvian government admits that live dogs have been used in military training but claims that the practice has been banned since August. A ministry of defence spokesman says that the exercise shown on the video took place before the ban was introduced.

"The exercises shown on the video are currently strictly forbidden in all Peruvian military institutions," the spokesman says. "At present no animals are being used in exercises carried out during military training."

However, the WSPA believes the practice is still continuing. Gerardo Huertas, the society's Latin America regional director, said: "Abuse of animals by the military has been going on in Peru for decades and we believe that it is also happening in other countries in Central and South America and elsewhere.

"These images of young soldiers mutilating dogs until they die are grotesque, a chilling reminder that we have to redouble our efforts to fight against animal crimes all over the world.

"People who are trained to protect the civil, religious or democratic acts of a nation should never be required to behave in such a way. It's frightening to think what kind of people those soldiers will be when they come out of the army."

Armando Lecaros-de-Cossio, Peru's ambassador to Britain, said that he was shocked by the video. "No civilised person could condone what is happening in that video," he said. Mr Lecaros-de-Cossio described himself as "an animal-lover".

He had kept dogs for many years and was about to buy one for his 11-year-old daughter Louise.

"Louise has been begging for a puppy from Scottie [a colleague's golden retriever] and we hope that will be happening shortly. She adores dogs," he said.

The Peruvian army is currently being investigated in connection with atrocities committed during 20 years of fighting between security forces, civilians and the brutal Sendero Luminoso - Shining Path - guerrillas.

Investigators belonging to a "Truth Commission" have exhumed the bodies of dozens of villagers said to have been massacred by government troops and guerrillas between 1980 and 2000.

The armed forces have so far failed to respond to the commission's inquiries, even though 13,000 people have testified.


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1 posted on 12/14/2002 4:24:24 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Absolutely disgusting, and something I wish I still didn't know. I don't want to know about disgusting things I can't do a thing to solve. My heart breaks too easy.
2 posted on 12/14/2002 4:27:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bella_Bru; Dog
Aaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 posted on 12/14/2002 4:27:44 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Pokey78
Well that's one way to desensitize recruits.
4 posted on 12/14/2002 4:27:53 PM PST by Commander8
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To: Pokey78
I am not sure what skill this is even supposed to test or train. A sad display regardless.
5 posted on 12/14/2002 4:28:39 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Pokey78
Seems like they could use death row inmates instead.
6 posted on 12/14/2002 4:30:44 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Pokey78
At least they've stopped used captured guerrillas instead.
7 posted on 12/14/2002 4:33:56 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: ambrose; Sungirl; Cultural Jihad
I wish, I wish, I wish I had not clicked on this.

How oh-so wonderful we humans are. We take an animal species, train them to put their trust in us, and then do something like this.

8 posted on 12/14/2002 4:34:09 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Pokey78
U.S. Special Forces are the baddest, most effective fighters in the world. Yet they manage to train without torturing defenseless animals as part of their training (or killing any animal for any reason besides survival purposes).
9 posted on 12/14/2002 4:35:13 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Bella_Bru
thank goodness we no longer have to be subjected to the rantings of Tabitha Soren
10 posted on 12/14/2002 4:38:06 PM PST by ambrose
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To: HairOfTheDog
My heart breaks too easy.

Mine, too. I am an avid animal lover. This really makes me sick. People can be the cruelest animal on earth. :(

11 posted on 12/14/2002 4:45:43 PM PST by SheLion
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To: Pokey78
Let me have my way with these shitheads and for weeks on end they will cry out to their mothers and God in their wish they had been the dog.
12 posted on 12/14/2002 4:47:07 PM PST by RLK
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To: swarthyguy
"...At least they've stopped used captured guerrillas instead..."

Communist guerillas?

How on earth could killing an innocent, trusting dog be less offensive than killing a G.D. stinking communist?

13 posted on 12/14/2002 4:48:15 PM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Larry Lucido; sneakypete; harpseal; Squantos
Are you familiar with "goat lab"?
14 posted on 12/14/2002 4:50:30 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: RLK
See #14.
15 posted on 12/14/2002 4:51:24 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: SheLion; Pokey78
I wish I hadn't clicked on it.

I am feeling a little bit hostile toward pokey78, and I don't know if it is fair, because it was posted without comment.

What did you want from us on this thread Pokey? I am really curious. The animal abuse threads on free republic always break my heart, and sometimes I feel like my chain is being yanked for the entertainment value of it.

Every time I see a pitiful story of intense cruelty that no one should defend, I am scared that inevitably someone will come on thread and wind all of us up with a heartless word bomb... and away we go. Arguing for nothing, a story about something they may or may not do in a faraway country we can't fix.

The societal value of the story should matter. Sorry Pokey, if your intentions are honorable, I just get so sick when I see this stuff, and I wonder why it was served to me.
16 posted on 12/14/2002 4:51:58 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Pokey78
Just how does killing a defensless animal "prove" bravery? In my book it only proves cruelty.
17 posted on 12/14/2002 4:52:30 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Travis McGee
Is this when they cut a goat open, pull it's insides out, put them back in and sew it back up? They at least medicate the goat for this, don't they?
18 posted on 12/14/2002 4:52:52 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Travis McGee
Actually, no, but I have a feeling I may soon be enlightened.
19 posted on 12/14/2002 4:53:01 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Pokey78


Real warriors, aren't they?
20 posted on 12/14/2002 4:53:21 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Pokey78
Modern 'Inca' warriors. The world would be a better place without them.

At least the Koreans boil their dogs alive before they eat them. They don't eat them raw.

21 posted on 12/14/2002 4:54:20 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Pokey78
Someone forward this to PETA. Think we'll get a response?

Love to see all their sorry *sses go to Peru.

They might actually serve a purpose for once.

22 posted on 12/14/2002 4:55:44 PM PST by Caipirabob
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
At least that would serve a valid medical purpose. I'd gladly sacrifice a goat so that one troop can provide emergency first aid to another with a severe wound.
23 posted on 12/14/2002 4:56:34 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Pokey78
This is something I would imagine in an Al-Qaeda training camp or in some God-forsaken piece of Gaza at a Hamas facility, not a government military training base in a supposedly "civilized" country.

Unbelievable. I can joke about almost anything, but not this. Not this.

}:-)4
24 posted on 12/14/2002 4:57:14 PM PST by Moose4
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To: HairOfTheDog
There is a warning "Picture might be offensive to some." But........I just HAD to LOOK! shoot me now, please.

You hear about torture everywhere, but when it's an animal involved, I can just puke. The animals have no choice. They just are.........

Sorry Pokey. I didn't have to click on it. Just shows us how sick our world really is.

25 posted on 12/14/2002 4:58:10 PM PST by SheLion
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To: Pokey78
If the members of PETA were so concerned with animals they'd be lining up to the dogs' place.
26 posted on 12/14/2002 5:00:11 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace; Larry Lucido
It's part of the final testing for Army SF medics and others attending their school.

Goats are wounded under control, then the new medics have to save them. Wounds include gunshots, burns etc.

One final exercise is a large triage drill where the medics run onto a field of wounded goats and must determine which are "expectant" (forget him, he's a goner), "routine" or "delay" (you can wait buddy), and "immediate" (treat this one now, and he will make it).

Goats do not enjoy this test.

OTOH, I would prefer that my 19 year old son in the Army or USMC have medics and corpsmen with them who have proved themselves on living flesh and blood creatures under great stress before being tested on the battlefield. You do not want to find out in combat that your medic is going to freeze up and go catatonic when he sees horrific wounds.

27 posted on 12/14/2002 5:01:06 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Sungirl; Terriergal
ping
28 posted on 12/14/2002 5:03:51 PM PST by null and void
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To: SheLion
Far, far far far worse things are done to human beings in Iraq every day.

Attractive women are "selected" to enjoy being raped by Saddam's sons and others. The women are raped and tortured and filmed (for future enjoyment) and even fed at the end while alive to starving dog packs in kennels, also filmed for Saddam's sons future jollies.

The horrors we will uncover in Iraq will rival Nazi Germany, and dwarf a dog killing ritual in Peru by a billion times.

29 posted on 12/14/2002 5:04:31 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: DoctorMichael
This cruelty serves no purpose and whoever thought this scheme up ought to be strung up next.It would serve them right.No way to treat man's best friend.
30 posted on 12/14/2002 5:06:02 PM PST by Drippy
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To: SheLion
You hear about torture everywhere, but when it's an animal involved, I can just puke. The animals have no choice.

What, the people (victims of torture) do? Are you nuts, or just dumb? Really, this so called training is heinous. Torturing a dog to death is evil; but the really bad part is that they're training to treat people the same way. If it takes seeing cruel treatment of animals to show you that some people are really evil ("sick" has nothing to do with it), you're blind. You've missed the even worse treatment we bestow on each other.

31 posted on 12/14/2002 5:06:34 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: harpseal
Didn't a former CO at ST2 get in hot water in the early 70s over something similar?
32 posted on 12/14/2002 5:09:01 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: harpseal
Didn't a former CO at ST2 get in hot water in the early 70s over something similar?
33 posted on 12/14/2002 5:09:01 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: ambrose
thank goodness we no longer have to be subjected to the rantings of Tabitha Soren

All you sick people worry about a few dogs when every day, women go to clinics...

34 posted on 12/14/2002 5:09:16 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: Travis McGee
This could just as easily be accomplished using prisoners. Plenty of ragheads at Guantanamo just taking up space.
35 posted on 12/14/2002 5:09:31 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Travis McGee
The horrors we will uncover in Iraq will rival Nazi Germany, and dwarf a dog killing ritual in Peru by a billion times.

That's why it makes me sick to see all the Hollyweird and the War Protestors. What ever are they thinking!

36 posted on 12/14/2002 5:09:33 PM PST by SheLion
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To: ArrogantBustard
Good point. The dog is merely a training aid to teach these soldiers to coldly do this to human beings.
37 posted on 12/14/2002 5:10:13 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: SheLion
How can you not look with a headline like that? Its like driving past a car wreck.
38 posted on 12/14/2002 5:10:49 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Pokey78
Wouldn't be a better test of courage if the dog wasn't tied? And if it had rabies? And they had to use their bare hands? Then maybe you could respect these bozos.
39 posted on 12/14/2002 5:11:04 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Travis McGee
Unfortunately, until these horid pictures and films of these women are on nightly network news most will not believe it. Hmmmm....sound familiar?
40 posted on 12/14/2002 5:11:19 PM PST by BossLady
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To: Pokey78
Can't they just use Hollywood actors instead of dogs? They should base it on level of intelligence.
41 posted on 12/14/2002 5:13:25 PM PST by montag813
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To: Travis McGee
The similarity and contrast with Goat Lab is striking. The SF trainees are also being instructed on how to treat their fellow men. The nature of what they're being taught to do is rather different, though. I like our version better. Do I understand correctly that if your goat dies, you don't pass? Quite an incentive to make sure ol' Billy makes it.
42 posted on 12/14/2002 5:15:11 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: 4Freedom
At least the Koreans boil their dogs alive before they eat them.

No they butcher and clean them before they cook them.

43 posted on 12/14/2002 5:22:05 PM PST by carenot
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To: Larry Lucido
I'd gladly sacrifice a goat so that one troop can provide emergency first aid to another with a severe wound.

Send them to Parkland Hospital any Friday or Saturday night. Lots of gunshot wounds and knife wounds on real people.

44 posted on 12/14/2002 5:24:55 PM PST by carenot
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To: carenot
did you ever see the HBO special on animals around the world? A bunch of crazy Spanish festivals, like ripping the heads off chickens, throwing goats from towers...parboiled cats alive in China, etc. Pretty foul show.
45 posted on 12/14/2002 5:28:10 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: ambrose
Prisoners or dogs, I don't think it's necessary period.
46 posted on 12/14/2002 5:28:43 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
The goat lab clearly serves an identifiable purpose. I too would feel much better knowing that medics have demonstrated the ability to operate under extreme stress.
47 posted on 12/14/2002 5:30:04 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: SheLion
Do you remember from history lessons that we forced the good citizens living near death camps to go and see what was there, and even to load corpses?

We should do the same with Sean Penn, Ed Asner etc in Iraq after the liberation.

48 posted on 12/14/2002 5:30:40 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: carenot
I've spent lots and lots of time in PMH's ER. Not a pretty place.
49 posted on 12/14/2002 5:31:14 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
I agree. That new untested medic cannot be replaced in combat if he freezes up, and our sons can die as a result.

This dog killing machismo ritual serves no such purpose.

50 posted on 12/14/2002 5:32:15 PM PST by Travis McGee
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