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My choice to succeed Lott (Vanity)
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Posted on 12/14/2002 4:39:07 PM PST by EternalVigilance

Oklahoma Senator Don Nickles


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma
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Wouldn't this man put a better face on the GOP?

I think so!

1 posted on 12/14/2002 4:39:07 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Bump for Nickles!!! Lott is a disgrace to the Republican Party and a self-patronizing RINO. He needs to resign and damn him for threatening the Republican majority in the Senate.
2 posted on 12/14/2002 4:42:24 PM PST by Sparta
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To: EternalVigilance
Works for me! He's a great guy. By the way, I just replied to you on our other thread.
3 posted on 12/14/2002 4:42:44 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: EternalVigilance
I agree. Don Nickles would be a good choice. But he would have been a good choice before Trent Lott put his foot in his mouth. I think there are good reasons for the GOP to have another Senate Majority Leader, but getting rid of Lott over his gaffe is not a good idea, IMHO. Unless and until they can replace Lott at a time when the replacement is completely because they have someone better -- and not because the Democrats and the media made a circus out of his statements about Strom -- I'm not in favor of the switch.
4 posted on 12/14/2002 4:43:37 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Sparta
Hey, Sparta! Just say what you feel next time, ok? Hehehehe...by the way, I agree with you. And then some.
5 posted on 12/14/2002 4:43:39 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: EternalVigilance
Here's another bump for Nickles!
6 posted on 12/14/2002 4:45:03 PM PST by firewalk
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To: EternalVigilance

7 posted on 12/14/2002 4:45:23 PM PST by deport
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To: Wait4Truth
He is a great guy.

People like him...and we certainly are due for a likeable Majority Leader.

And he's a conservative.
8 posted on 12/14/2002 4:46:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: deport
All of these RINOs supporting Lott are pathetic. I despise most Senate Republicans!!!! Most Senate "Republicans" are in reality RINO butt-boys for Tonya Dasshole, Heinz Kerry, Hitlery, KKK Byrd, and rest of the damn traitorous disloyal opposition.
9 posted on 12/14/2002 4:48:33 PM PST by Sparta
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To: deport
Chaffee is such an ass! Good grief! Thanks for the post, deport. I still want Lott to go, though.
10 posted on 12/14/2002 4:49:43 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: Mr. Mulliner
nless and until they can replace Lott at a time when the replacement is completely because they have someone better -- and not because the Democrats and the media made a circus out of his statements about Strom -- I'm not in favor of the switch.

I disagree and think personally that the time is now. We need to unify our party for the battles ahead.

If Trent will do the honorable thing and take a committee chairmanship, the party will even rally around him.

11 posted on 12/14/2002 4:49:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
The GOP should quit with these halfway measures, and get right to it. Rewrite a couple of minor rules, and give the job to Maxine Waters.
12 posted on 12/14/2002 4:50:08 PM PST by per loin
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To: EternalVigilance
Vigiance

Yes this would be a great face, as well as Frisk.

I am going to phone the Whitehouse Monday, and Lotts, Nickles and Frisk's office. One ask for Lott's resignation and two to recommend these suitable replacements.

We need to call, Lott dropped the ball on Impeachment, The power-sharing with Tommy Boy and the Jeffords deal and now "this mess", it is time for the door to hit him in the A** on the way out.

If he wants to quit the Senate and take his marbles home with him that is good too.

I woudl rather have Tommy Boy to kick around for 2 years then this Enunch. That is how sick I am off him and this mess he created.

13 posted on 12/14/2002 4:50:53 PM PST by taildragger
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To: Sparta

But they are a part of the party, or have they been excluded now... maybe they are too racist also... huh?

14 posted on 12/14/2002 4:51:12 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Some Republicans have kept silent, including Lott's current deputy, Don Nickles of Oklahoma

Sometimes silence can be deafening. ;-)

15 posted on 12/14/2002 4:51:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: per loin
The GOP should quit with these halfway measures, and get right to it. Rewrite a couple of minor rules, and give the job to Maxine Waters.

LMAO..

Hey, Nickles is a real conservative.

16 posted on 12/14/2002 4:53:19 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Nichols is great and Lott is bad, but losing the senate is wrong. How are you doing ,bye the way.
17 posted on 12/14/2002 4:53:30 PM PST by folklore
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To: EternalVigilance; All
AOL has a poll on who Time Magazine should name as their person of the year. President Bush is on top but only beating Eminem (sp?) by 1%. We can't allow that. Please vote.

EV, if you read deport's post, Chaffee is afraid if Lott goes, there will be a more conservative ML...see what I mean? He probably wouldn't vote for Nickles and neither would his RINO cronies. We just have to know the vote ahead of time. Maybe the President already does and that's why he hasn't called for Lott to step down. No matter what, Lott will be a major liability - especially since the RATS are coming out and saying he should stay as ML.

18 posted on 12/14/2002 4:53:49 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: Wait4Truth
Hey are all the others ASSES that elected him Majority Leader for the following sessions?

104th, 105th, 106th, 107th and 108th.....

Damn most of the Senate are asses it seems when combining the Republicans that voted for Lott with the democrats.

19 posted on 12/14/2002 4:54:27 PM PST by deport
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To: taildragger
As I have shared with others, IMO Frist would be an awful choice.

He's even more liberal than Lott.
20 posted on 12/14/2002 4:54:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: deport
These RINOs like Fitzie Boy, Comrade Chaffee, McConnell, and McLoser's butt-boy Hagel need to be excluded from the party so the Senate Republicans can resemble something Conservative.
21 posted on 12/14/2002 4:55:32 PM PST by Sparta
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To: deport
Do you happen to know how many votes it takes to be majority leader? It seems to me that PhiKapMom told me that Nickles was unacceptable to the more liberal members like Snow, and Lott was someone they all could agree on. That sounds to me like it takes more than a simple majority, but it may just have been her phrasing that led me to believe that.
22 posted on 12/14/2002 4:56:26 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Wait4Truth
Nobody has a better handle on the vote count than Nickles, I guarantee it.

And again, the RINOs are outnumbered in the Republican Caucus...they have less power in that room than they do in the full Senate.
23 posted on 12/14/2002 4:56:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: deport
Hey, settle down!! LOL! I was just commenting on his REASON for keeping Lott!
24 posted on 12/14/2002 4:57:05 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: taildragger
Please before you call Frist's office have the name right.
25 posted on 12/14/2002 4:57:55 PM PST by D. Miles
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To: EternalVigilance
Ok, I trust ya! As long as Nickles knows none of the squishy ones will jump ship. I just couldn't stand losing the Senate that way again.
26 posted on 12/14/2002 4:58:16 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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Truth, Let all the Rino's Jump ship too. I have had it with Snowe and Chaffee and Specter and appeasing them. Tell them it's our way or the highway. I woudl rather the Senate balance go 54 what-ever in the Rats favor and once and for all be rid of all these Rino's.
27 posted on 12/14/2002 4:58:26 PM PST by taildragger
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To: Miss Marple
It's a simpole calculation...

51 R) Senators...

26 votes needed total to be Majority Leader.
28 posted on 12/14/2002 4:58:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: D. Miles
Miles, Thanks.
29 posted on 12/14/2002 4:58:52 PM PST by taildragger
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To: per loin
give the job to Maxine Waters.

Watch what you wish for....


30 posted on 12/14/2002 4:59:09 PM PST by ErnBatavia
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To: EternalVigilance
Rick Santorum would be a real good choice!
31 posted on 12/14/2002 4:59:19 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: Wait4Truth
Heck they all voted to keep Lott..... Must be asses also.
32 posted on 12/14/2002 4:59:29 PM PST by deport
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To: taildragger
You have a stronger stomach than I do. I couldn't bear to watch daschle and the media skewer the President over losing the Senate to jumpers twice in a year's time. I haven't even gotten over the 36 days from hell in 2000 yet.
33 posted on 12/14/2002 5:00:35 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: EternalVigilance
Sometimes the rules are not a simple majority, and that is why I asked. To use a fairly recent and depressing example, it was necessary to get 60 votes for conviction in Clinton's impeachment trial; 51 was not enough to convict.

I just want to know what the Senate rules actually are. Do you KNOW if it is simply a majority, or are you assuming it is so?

34 posted on 12/14/2002 5:01:03 PM PST by Miss Marple
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No I don't know... I'd guess a simply majority but I really don't have any idea..... Makes a big difference now if they can run ol Lott out the door and get a 50/50 Senate again. This was all quite until after the LA election and Mary won....
35 posted on 12/14/2002 5:01:33 PM PST by deport
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Please before you call Frist's office have the name right.

Yep - some switchboard operator would have to tell him that the "Frisker" served his two terms and is now busy fundraising for the DNC...

36 posted on 12/14/2002 5:01:33 PM PST by ErnBatavia
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To: deport
Ok. Let's just let this one go. I didn't mean to offend you with my opinion.
37 posted on 12/14/2002 5:01:49 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: deport
Is that the plan? I am always the last to know....
38 posted on 12/14/2002 5:02:48 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: folklore
The only way to go towards losing the Senate is if Lott made the stupidest political decision of all time and resigned his Senate seat.

I know that doesn't inspire confidence in a group of people who consider him to not be too bright....but I really don't think the President is going to stand idly by and let Lott do that.

Stepping through that door for Lott would be a step into the abyss.

...And I'm doing fine, my friend! South Dakota sunshine and warm weather, thank goodness! :-) How bout you?
39 posted on 12/14/2002 5:03:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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Truth, I am not sure it is a stronger stomach or I am just fed up with the lack of principles and not standing for anything that seems to come from the Senate in particular. Lott is a perfect example. We know what Tommy Boy stands for, do we know what Lott stands for these days?
40 posted on 12/14/2002 5:03:40 PM PST by taildragger
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I'm POSITIVE that it is a simple majority in the Republican Caucus to decide leadership.

The 2/3rds majority to convict in an impeachment is Constitutionally mandated.
41 posted on 12/14/2002 5:05:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: taildragger
I totally understand how you feel...I just don't have the stomach for a mass exodus at this time. Lott cares about his own a$$ right now. I only hope somebody can talk sense to him.
42 posted on 12/14/2002 5:06:12 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: Wait4Truth
So pretty much we're screwed whether Lott stays or goes? Thanks, Trent, you freakin' idiot! And kudos to the GOP Senate for keeping this guy in to begin with, we could have told them around here what a mistake that was even then. Little did we know how soon it would be worse...
43 posted on 12/14/2002 5:06:57 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: EternalVigilance
I just talked to a legislative director for a huge labor organization and he 1.) wants Lott to stay and 2.) doesn't want Nickles. Why not Nickles? He says he is too smart and 'knows strategy'.

As far as I'm concerned, that's a ringing endorsement.

44 posted on 12/14/2002 5:07:34 PM PST by BlueCat
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To: BJungNan
Rick Santorum would be a real good choice!

I totally agree!

However, I think Nickles has more seniority and is far better situated to pull it off.

But I would certainly be ecstatic over having Senator Santorum in that post.

45 posted on 12/14/2002 5:08:58 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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I just talked to a legislative director for a huge labor organization and he 1.) wants Lott to stay and 2.) doesn't want Nickles. Why not Nickles? He says he is too smart and 'knows strategy'. As far as I'm concerned, that's a ringing endorsement.

Absolutely! *grin*

Oklahoma is a right-to-work state...the labor bosses hate Oklahoma with a passion.

Hehehe...

46 posted on 12/14/2002 5:10:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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Yes, but that's not the reason they don't want Nickles. They want Lott right where he is. With Lott there, they get a twofer. They can roll Lott and don't have to deal with Nickles.
47 posted on 12/14/2002 5:17:17 PM PST by BlueCat
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To: EternalVigilance
Thanks to you and JW the state party is starting to come alive. I should include RFP and mountianeer. Buddy is on the radio everyday,bad or good. LOL.

Give us our weather back. It has been bad bad and bad.

48 posted on 12/14/2002 5:19:33 PM PST by folklore
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To: EternalVigilance
Can you guarantee that Nickles hasn't done something silly or offended someone in his entire life?? The new standard is that all Republicans have to be beyond reproach-ironically,unlike "Lot's wife" in the Bible.I hate to imagine what the Democrats and Ms Maxine are planning for Don. "There is no person too nice to be ruined"-is the new Democrat and Congressional Black Caucus motto.
49 posted on 12/14/2002 5:19:46 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: BlueCat
Yes, but that's not the reason they don't want Nickles. They want Lott right where he is. With Lott there, they get a twofer. They can roll Lott and don't have to deal with Nickles.

Oh, I totally get it.

As you say, his opinion speaks volumes about what would be best for the Republican Party and conservatism about now.

50 posted on 12/14/2002 5:20:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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