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Clinton says he had a plan to attack North Korean reactor in 1994 (REVISIONIST HISTORY ALERT)
AP via Yahoo ^ | December 15, 2002 | Toby Sterling

Posted on 12/15/2002 3:19:04 PM PST by snopercod

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To: snopercod
"Clinton said...he told Pyongyang the facility would be attacked unless it were frozen."

I guess they just confused Waco with Pyongyang...minor mistake. Let's move on.

21 posted on 12/15/2002 5:17:31 PM PST by NewLand
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To: Imal
Former U.S. President Bill Clinton said Sunday he had warned North Korea in 1994 the United States would destroy its nuclear reactor unless it agreed to freeze its operations.

I'm sure the Memoirs of Bill Clinton will be filled with all the things he didn't do, but had planned to do.

22 posted on 12/15/2002 6:00:31 PM PST by Smedley
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To: snopercod
If he had a plan why didn't he carry it out! This guy is like heartburn...
23 posted on 12/15/2002 6:37:07 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: snopercod
I really hate to do this but I recall reading (at Natioal Review I believe) that Clinton was preparing to take a strong stand against North Korea. But then Jimmy Carter went over there and arranged his deal. The Clinton Admin chose to reverse themselves (and accept Carter's phony solution) rather the publicly rebuke Carter.
24 posted on 12/15/2002 6:52:29 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: snopercod
I think Trent Lott is paying Clinton to open his mouth at just this time.



26 posted on 12/15/2002 6:59:41 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: snopercod
Bill Clinton - the woulda, shoulda, coulda, kid. What he did do was sow lots of seeds of destruction morally, militarily, and economically.
27 posted on 12/15/2002 9:38:01 PM PST by Russell Scott
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To: Russell Scott
Too bad we didn't have a grown up President and a media that knew (and would report) the difference from 1992-2000. We would be in better shape today (paraphrasing Lott).
28 posted on 12/15/2002 9:50:45 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Sci Fi Guy
There's an interesting story behind that. It seems as though Carter showed up in North Korea whilst the Clinonistas were discussing what to do. Carter offered his "breakthough" and Bubba was home free.

I don't believe that Carter went there without dear Bubba knowing about it. It was a setup - a phony solution to a growing problem - that was perfectly Clintonesque.

29 posted on 12/15/2002 10:08:26 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary; Sci Fi Guy; Oldeconomybuyer
2001 FLASHBACK - Jimmy Carter's role in the 1994 Nuclear agreement witn North Korea (my title)
30 posted on 12/15/2002 10:42:31 PM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod
I've actually seen beelzebubba up close, and come to think of it, he did look like a saloon.

His red, bulbous, Ted Kennedy/Tip O'Neill-like nose sure looks like he's been in a few saloons, anyway.

31 posted on 12/15/2002 10:45:21 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: nothingnew
As far as the ink being still wet, aren't you looking forward to the release of his multi-million dollar book wherein he can present further details on all the ways he tried to save the world. He is such a lucky man that there are so many events going on to remind him of what his past actions were, otherwise he would have surely forgotten just how lucky we were to have such a diplomat and statesman leading our country. /sarcasm
32 posted on 12/15/2002 10:51:55 PM PST by Brad C.
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This article appeared in the National Post (Canada) on October 19, 2002.

There Is No Making Deals with Dangerous Regimes

By David Frum


"Experience is a hard teacher, but fools will have no other."--Benjamin Franklin.

God likes his little jokes. Not one week after Jimmy Carter received his Nobel Peace Prize, we learn that his most important post-presidential assignment ended the way most of his policies in offices did: in total disaster. In 1993, the United States detected a North Korean nuclear weapons program. The dangers of allowing the world's looniest regime to develop nuclear weapons were obviously terrifying. On the other hand, the then-new Clinton administration abhorred confrontation and the use of force.

So rather than eliminate the North Korean weapons sites Israeli-style, President Clinton decided to negotiate. He sent Carter to North Korea as a special envoy, and in the summer of 1994, Carter and the North Koreans worked out a deal. North Korea would suspend its nuclear-weapons program. In return, the United States would build North Korea two nuclear reactors for energy production and would provide oil, food, and other aid to the self-isolated country's starving people.

At the time, many people criticized the naivete of the Carter agreement. They warned that the food and fuel provided by the United States would be diverted to military purposes--and so they were. Skeptics warned too that North Korea could not be trusted to honour the deal--and this week they were proved right again. Earlier this month, the United States confronted the North Koreans with evidence that they had acquired nuclear-weapons technology from Pakistan (you remember them: our great allies in the war on terror). The North Koreans forthrightly admitted that they had cheated on their deal with Carter and formally repudiated it, dropping heavy hints that they now possessed nuclear weapons and that the United States had better watch its step.

Some optimists interpret the North Koreans' admission as a sign that the regime may be reforming. The thinking goes: Well the North Koreans may now be nuclear-armed, but at least they have stopped lying. But that's pretty cold comfort for the hundreds of millions of South Koreans, Japanese, Russians, Chinese, and American military personnel who find themselves within range of North Korea's ballistic missiles.

There are at least two urgent lessons here. One is that it is not easy to hide a nuclear-weapons program from American eyes--the North Koreans were caught in the end--but it is not impossible either. The second follows from the first. A dangerous regime will acquire dangerous weapons, no matter what promises they make, no matter what safeguards are put in place. It is only a matter of time. And the time is often shorter than we think.

The new Korean regime of Kim Jong Il does, mercifully, seem to be less bent on aggression than the mad government of his father, Kim Il Sung. Quite possibly, the younger Kim will use his nuclear capacity, whatever it is, to extract money, not to wage war. Let's hope so. And let's hope while we are at it that the North Koreans are lying, and that U.S. intelligence caught them before their weapons became operational.

North Korea's hypothetical nuclear weapons are forcing the United States to treat the vicious little regime with care. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice has already ruled out the use of force against North Korea. In this case, deterrence is working: for the North Koreans.

If we are not careful, deterrence will be working soon for the Iraqis. We could easily be talking now not about a North Korean nuclear weapon, but about an Iraqi bomb--and if not now, then certainly within a year or two or three. And unlike the current North Korean regime, surrounded by vastly richer and more powerful neighbours, Saddam Hussein has large ambitions for himself and his regime. Protected by nuclear weapons, he could intimidate his neighbours with impunity. Perhaps he could frighten them into defying the UN sanctions against Iraq--or into denying their territory to American forces--or into raising the price of oil. Protected by nuclear weapons, he could rebuild his army to bully Kuwait and Saudi Arabia--or support plots and rebellions against pro-Western regimes in the Gulf--or encourage even deadlier acts of terrorism against Israel and the United States.

I said a minute ago that there were at least two lessons here. Actually, there is a third--and it is, that a deception like North Korea's is most likely to succeed when the deceived inwardly wish to be deceived.

Clinton did not want to act, and hoped that by negotiating even a bad deal he would postpone problems he lacked the nerve to face. And of course he knew the deal with the North Koreans was a bad deal: Bad deals are the only kind of deals Jimmy Carter ever makes.

A nuclearized Korean peninsula is the price the region and the world must now pay for Clinton's weakness--but not the only price. In Iraq and with Osama bin Laden, Clinton's methods were the same. See nothing, do nothing, and then congratulate yourself.

We have had a hard lesson. Let us hope that there are no harder lessons to come. 

David Frum is a visiting fellow at AEI.


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33 posted on 12/15/2002 10:56:23 PM PST by snopercod
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"We drew up plans to destroy the reactor,"

If you knew they had nuclear capabilities, knew they posed a threat and even and "drew up plans" to destroy the reactor, why didn't you carry those plans out? And what did you do with the plans after you failed to act on them?

What an idiot.

34 posted on 12/15/2002 10:59:24 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: snopercod
When my Mother voted for Clinton in 92 I angrily told her that he would be a better used care salesman than president!

I hope used car salesmen can forgive me!

Sure, there was a plan that was created by the chiefs of staff in charge of such matters but Clinton will of course claim it as his own doing, NO surprise!!

Just what did Clinton actually accomplish in office anyway besides clog the sink just off the oval office!!??

Will this pile of dung ever SHUT UP!

Rush was so right when he said this guy will never go away he's the worst stain of a politition in the history of our country and it sounds like he is actually wishing he could steer GW into engaging our forces on two fronts besides doing some legacy building and history revision.

He just thinks, Hey, who cares what happens if it gives a political victory to the Me and the dims.

HEY, Clinton Buzz OFF!!

35 posted on 12/15/2002 11:26:48 PM PST by right way right
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HEY, Clinton Buzz OFF!!

He's NOT going away. Clinton, unlike all past ex-presidents, will continue sticking his nose into the news on an almost daily basis. Get used to it.

36 posted on 12/16/2002 8:32:19 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: snopercod
Clinton is categorically a Liar, a Manipulator, and a Blasphemer by all definitions allowed by any dictionary. If we've thought Jimmuh Carter opening up his mouth on issues in the last 2 years was bad, imagine how awful it's going to be, w/ a skunk like Billy Jeff publicly babbling against the USA, for the next 30 years.
37 posted on 12/16/2002 1:52:15 PM PST by Pagey
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To: snopercod
Clinton wanted to bomb No. Korea, but he didn't.

Clinton wanted to take out OBL, but he didn't.

Clinton wanted to sell nuclear secrets to the Chinese for campaign funds, AND HE DID IT.

Clinton wanted to be a good President, but he wasn't.

38 posted on 12/16/2002 1:58:29 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: knighthawk
Hey, knighthawk, what's Clinton doing in your country?
39 posted on 12/16/2002 2:54:41 PM PST by aristeides
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To: snopercod
Didn't our tax dollars build an atomic power plant there when he was president ?? Seems I remember thinking how dumb that was at the time
40 posted on 12/16/2002 3:00:23 PM PST by RnMomof7
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