Trueblackman and Congressmen Jackson Jr. go head to head

myself ^ | 16 December 2002 | trueblackman

[wideawake]

You've got guts, TBM. Keep the faith.

[xlib]

I pointed out that his fellow CBC Members were misleading people in the statement "That the majority leader is 4th in line for the Presidency."

Actually, for the moment, the fourth in line for the presidency is none other than "Sheets" Byrd of West Virginia (President pro tem of the Senate).

[don-o]

I don't know how to get that show, but hey, give 'em hell anyway. There is a link back up in the 20's that worked for me.

[wideawake]

What - someone who's clearheaded under pressure and who refuses to compromise his principles? But that would make sense!

[Focault's Pendulum]

I have to somehow, get you over here to Monmouth County, New Jersey to speak in front of some of the educational wingnuts in my predominantly black neighborhood..

I got hard working people here...and their kids are being fed a line of crap.

That's the Asbury Park/Neptune area...you might know the area.

[M Kehoe]

Bttt.

5.56mm

[Clara Lou]

Kevin,
It was a great listen. I cannot tell you what a joy it was to hear you demand that the Democratic Party treat others as they treat their own. Keep up the good work. We need all of the voices of reason we can get.

[bert]

Probably not unless things change

[Oldeconomybuyer]

I watched you the other night on Fox and you were great. Thanks for your efforts to inform, enlighten, and bring a sense of dignity to being a True Black Man.

[ex-Texan]

I listened to the entire show on the Internet. Bravo, Kevin! Bravo! [Sound of standing ovation!]

You did very well against Congressman Jackson. Jackson is a smooth talker, smoother than his father. You stood toe to toe with him and made much more sense. Loved your points about KKK Byrd and Monica-Clinton. You made very proud to know you from FR !

[SCHROLL]

The burning question is who is the Republican Party's Jesse Jackson? I can't find a single instantce of one Republican knocking up their secretary.

[nicollo]

Masterful job, Trueblackman! I'd only add that you might have asked the Rev., Jr. about that oath he took to uphold the Constitution. He'd best get to reading the fine print. And I'm not just talking about the line of succession.

He probably doesn't even know that the President of the Senate is Dick Cheney. Or am I being too harsh? Maybe he does, and maybe he'd rather mislead. Nah.

Btw, the reason that the Majority Leader is not mentioned in the Constitution is because the President Pro-Tem is an officer of the entire body, while the Maj. Leader is a political officer. Lott's position is a product of the two-party system, not the Constitution. That office evolved over time. It's a 20th Century name. Before it was informal, and the leading Senator usually took the Appropriations Chair. The Senate is an odd beast, made up of personalities, each of whom holds the same power as any other. That a Representative shows such ignorance of the Senate is embarrassing. I suppose the Senate ought like this, as they enjoy holding themselves about that vulgar, lower body.

I'm intrigued by the reference to Monica. Why attack your own to get at another? Did he really think it was an effective argument, or is there something else he's getting at? Or has the Clintoon legacy finally taken hold? If JJJ wants to bring up Monica, I'm game. Let's put Lott under oath, and in a court of law, and ask him if he ever had sexual relations with Strom Thurmond.

Just seems like an odd time to remind us of Monica.

Onwards to "Censur." Of what? Does us no real good to retort with the "censure" of someone else. Instead, why don't we take Triple-J at his word: OK, let's censure Lott. Let's slap a restraining order on him, denying him access to 1948 and racism in all its forms. Let's forbid him any mention of "race."

That'll effectively block 3/4's of the Black Caucus' legislation.

I'm in awe of people like you who can speak quick, precise and effective words. It's an art that I see you shall perfect with further practice. Congratulations!

[hoosierpearl]

I am probably not going to be able to hear it but really wish I could.
Sounds like you did a great job Kevin. Thanks for all you do.

[Trueblackman]

If you have a real player on your computer someone did a link to the NPR website in one of the earilier replies. Good Luck and Thanks a million to everyone here.

[dalebert]

Sounds like you did a great job and made your point. Very good.

[Audit_Jesse]

Damned fine job, sir. Damned fine.

[Audit_Jesse]

Eh, Hit post too quickly. I was going off of what was said here, but when I clicked the links, the "page cannot be displayed" came up. A search of NPR.org found the story, but same results. I'll have to take everyone's word for it, but still, damned fine job!

[L.N. Smithee]

Four he tried to pull the Clinton Personal Life Monica Thing and that we all knew what we were getting when Clinton was elected and Republicans went after him over a personal mistake.

It wasn't Republicans that went after Clinton for his adulterous activity at first. Clinton was the former governor of Arkansas before all that got started. Being accused of being a womanizer made Clinton! Besides, it is disingenuous for JessJackJr to suggest that "we all knew what we were getting" when Clinton was elected because he and Hillary made durn sure we understood that any philandering that he might have done (remember, he never admitted it in the 60 Minutes interview) was over and done with.

Would JessJackJr agree that now we know his daddy more reckless than Clinton about where he spreads his seed (Monica didn't have a baby, just a ruined dress), he should expect more secret half-sisters in the future? After all don't "we all know what we are getting" in JessJackSr?

I quickly pointed out that Clinton did make a personal mistake but it was a perfessional since he was in the White House when it happened

We shouldn't lose track of what the issues were regarding Lewinsky.

To the best of my memory, these are the facts: Lewinsky was "a personal mistake" at first, but she became more than just personal when Clinton scrambled to make sure she stayed "personal." When Clinton was shocked to discover that Paula Jones' lawyers knew about her, he committed perjury in a deposition, mentioned Betty Currie's name as if she could back up his story, and quickly arranged a discussion with Currie to get his story straight in case she was subpoenaed. Then the stories about Lewinsky being a "stalker" were bandied about by Sidney Blumenthal (among others), and Vernon Jordan was enlisted to get her a cushy job fast. Remember, the day the story broke on Drudge, she had just landed a gig with Revlon, home of billionaire Clintonoid Ron Perelman. In the aftermath, the offer was withdrawn.

In short, The President of the United States attempted to use the power of his office to fix a civil suit against him. That was not a "personal mistake." That was felonious, and IMHO, he should have been convicted by the Senate.

[.30Carbine]

I'm very proud of you. Thank you and God bless.

[Jael]

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