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Lousy Service Cripples United, McDonald's
AdAge.com ^ | 12/17/2002 | Rance Crain

Posted on 12/17/2002 11:56:19 AM PST by GeneD

What do beleaguered United Airlines and McDonald's have in common? Lousy service. It drives customers away and it makes advertising a total waste of money. Nobody will pay attention to clever ad blandishments after they are yelled at by flight attendants (as my daughter and her family were) or had to wait 15 minutes for a Quarter-Pounder with Cheese (as I had to).

It's nice to know our family publishing company made more money this year than the U.S. airlines combined. What that shows is the big airlines' costs are too high and their revenue can't support them. Their only solution: Pare down operations, lower overhead and compete with the no-frills airlines.

It's not about price

However, price alone is not the sole reason to fly the cut-rate carriers. Though they don't offer amenities to speak of, I'm convinced people are flocking to the new lines because they're treated with respect there. As the head of JetBlue said on CBS's 60 Minutes a while ago, the major airlines "treat people like they're an annoyance....We won't scowl at you if you try to put something in the overhead bin."

When my daughter Heather and her family flew to Orlando from Chicago recently, there was a whole lot of scowling going on. Heather and her husband, Steven, have five children, including 8-month-old twin boys. It's a major expedition when they travel. United didn't make it any easier, beginning with the boarding process. When they handed the agent their tickets and IDs, the agent said each person had to carry their own. "But our boys are only 8 months old," Heather said. "Sorry, but you have to do that," the agent insisted.

When they finally got aboard, the flight attendant hurried them to buckle the twins' car seats. She said to Steven, "Sit. You have to sit down. We have to take off."

Berated over the loudspeaker

As the plane pulled away from the gate, both boys started to wail and Steven stood to get bottles from the diaper bag in the overhead bin. Over the loud speaker, the flight attendant said, "Sir, if you don't sit down we are going to have to stop the plane." A woman in front of Heather said, "Those stewardesses are not cutting you a break." As it turned out, the flight attendants were irritated and unhelpful the whole trip.

Chapter 11 won't help that much, I'm afraid. United will jettison costs and maybe even cut fares to compete with Southwest and JetBlue. But then they'll be an airline with cheaper fares that still treats passengers like they're a nuisance -- hardly a reason for passengers to abandon the cheap and friendly carriers.

McDonald's: Something they're not

McDonald's big problem? They tried to be something they're not, and in the process they became slow and unresponsive. People don't go to McDonald's for great-tasting food; they go for (duh) fast food. The last time I went to McDonald's the person taking my order also put my meal together. The guy in front of me said the same thing happens every Sunday. (Maybe he keeps coming back for the great taste).

At least McDonald's, under new management, can go back to doing what it does best: pumping out assembly-line food. (And forget the $1 value meals; few people go there for low prices.)

United, I'm afraid, has more serious problems. Its snarly employees won't suddenly start winning medals in the Miss Congeniality contest.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mcdonalds; ualcorporation; unitedairlines
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1 posted on 12/17/2002 11:56:19 AM PST by GeneD
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To: GeneD
That is why I prefer other places besides United or McDonalds. I can't stand rude employees.
2 posted on 12/17/2002 11:57:21 AM PST by KevinDavis
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To: KevinDavis
I can't stand rude employees.

Amen!

3 posted on 12/17/2002 11:58:48 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: GeneD
What is sad is that I am always amazed and thankful when I get good service, as it is the exception rather than the norm. Rude, uninterested, or just plain stupid, service employees carry on conversations with each other while "helping" customers. This weekend I went into a retail store and asked an employee to check something for me, she looked at her buddy and asked him to help me, he told her she should help me, finally I went to the manager and told her that her employees were "engaged in a high level discussion about who would have the burden of helping me with an item", the manager looked at me like I was speaking another language. Amazing.
4 posted on 12/17/2002 12:03:46 PM PST by luckodeirish
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To: Paul Atreides
"Like..is that here or to go?"


5 posted on 12/17/2002 12:05:32 PM PST by ErnBatavia
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To: GeneD
I agree with all of this except the whole Jet blue thing. The worst flight of my life was on jet blue. We were over six hours late leaving. Had to go through 5 gate changes and the man in front of me asked a flight attendant "What type of plane is this?" to which she replied "Sir, I don't know" so he said, "Don't you work here?" Well, that set her off and she called the TSA had them bring interrogators on the plane at which point she came on the intercom and said that if any of us said anything even remotely snide the rest of the trip she would personally inform the captain to put the plane at the nearest airport and have us all questioned. I can't imagine United's ever been that bad. However, the little TVs were pretty cool, but I think I'll stick to Southwest.
6 posted on 12/17/2002 12:06:13 PM PST by volchef
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To: KevinDavis
I can't stand rude employees.

I was purchasing cigars at the drug store (go ahead, condescension on) and the 20 y/o twit remarked "that's an expensive habit!".

My reply: "I can afford it. I'm not a drug store cashier". The rib was appalled. The twit didn't realize she'd been insulted.

7 posted on 12/17/2002 12:06:31 PM PST by banjo joe
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To: GeneD
...had to wait 15 minutes for a Quarter-Pounder with Cheese

In France they call it a "Royale with cheese."

8 posted on 12/17/2002 12:10:04 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: luckodeirish
It seems that most young people now act as if it is a social injustice to be asked to work for their pay. When you go up to their counter/checkout lane, they act as if you have no right to ask them for service. Others will just look at you as if you don't exist. That why I shop on the Internet. You get friendlier service from a computer screen these days.
9 posted on 12/17/2002 12:10:27 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: KevinDavis
Most businesses use the honey approach. They know you can go elsewhere, so they try to attract you to themselves.

Airlines, on the other hand, see themselves as dispensing what you need. They believe themselves to be in a position of power. With the constant threat of being charged with a crime hanging over your head from the minute you set foot in an airport until you leave, absurd security measures, and hostile flight attendents, flying has become the most miserable way to travel.

Now the airlines are reaping the consequences of that position. People are not traveling by air anymore. The airlines will have to start treating passengers as customers who don't have to fly rather than cattle herded aboard against their will.

Similarly, McDonalds takes the position that their food and restaurants are an unassailable icon of American life. They believe their own commercials depicting people and children eager for the McDonalds experience. Increasingly, their staff is rude and incompetent. Their restaurants seem to be more dirty and even smelly every time I set foot in one.

Other fast food chains have earned my business by being all that McDonalds is not: fresh, clean, courteous and different.

10 posted on 12/17/2002 12:10:59 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: GeneD
Let me add to the list of lousy service companies that will probably suffer because of their poor service. Maybe we should start a "chat" thread dedicated to this:

1. Wal-Mart/Sam's Club (Always low prices and always poor service)
2. Lowe's Home Improvement (Improving home improvement, my @$$)
3. Subway (Eat fresh, my @$$)
4. Target (Need I say more?)
5. Sears - specifically Sears Hardware (Satisfaction Guaranteed, my @$$).

(/rant)
11 posted on 12/17/2002 12:11:35 PM PST by agenda_express
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To: Paul Atreides
Isn't that the sad truth. My favorite is when they hand back change or give you your receipt and then grunt when you say "thank you", or the infamous "yeah, no problem".
12 posted on 12/17/2002 12:12:19 PM PST by luckodeirish
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To: rogue yam
In France they call it a "Royale with cheese."

In Mexico, they call it "El Heartstoppero".

13 posted on 12/17/2002 12:13:06 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: agenda_express
If you want service, go to a small personalized operation. If you want cheap prices, go to a big box. But don't confuse the two.
14 posted on 12/17/2002 12:14:25 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: GeneD
I'm not so sure that these problems with flying are unique to United. It seems to me that their hands are tied by strict Federal regulations. There needs to be a review of the whole flying process so that security can be maintained and to keep passengers comfortable.

I've had a similar experience...sit down in seat with calm baby, plane pulls away from the gate, 45 minute delay on the runway waiting to take off, baby poops in diaper and is hysterical for 30 minutes because I'm not allowed to get up while away from the gate.

Seems to me that a plane shouldn't be allowed to leave the gate unless it is able to proceed to take off without a delay.
15 posted on 12/17/2002 12:16:02 PM PST by kidd
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To: banjo joe
Ha! Good one. I have to try remembering that next time I get that line.
16 posted on 12/17/2002 12:17:13 PM PST by SoDak
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To: agenda_express
So true. I'm surprised when I go through convenience store checkouts and the cashier isn't on his/her cellphone the entire time. It's a sad social commentary that when presented with good service I ask to speak with management just so I can compliment them.
17 posted on 12/17/2002 12:17:17 PM PST by lonevoice
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To: banjo joe
My reply: "I can afford it. I'm not a drug store cashier". The rib was appalled. The twit didn't realize she'd been insulted.

Wow... I can't decide what I find more apalling about your story-- the fact that the idiot behind the counter felt entitled to moralize on your smoking (because every good pc-clone knows smoking is bad) or that she was too stupid to understand that she was being insulted...

Who was it that said there is nothing more dangerous than the stupid and energetic?

Keep the faith,

Repogirl

18 posted on 12/17/2002 12:18:49 PM PST by RepoGirl
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To: agenda_express
Wal-Mart/Sam's Club - it depends on who you get. A lot of the blue hairs are nice. The kids could care less if you died on the spot.

Lowe's Home Improvement - twenty checkout lanes and only two open, one being the service desk. Even then, they serve you at their convenience (like the post office).

Subway - depends on the location and the manager. Closer to the college is awful.

I was once eating in a Pizza Hut and I waved to my waiter to bring the check. He saw me nodded his head. He then proceeded to go around the dining area re-filling tea glasses for the other diners. Then, he finally brought me my check. I paid up, without leaving a tip. I also don't patronize the location. Also while I was there, he was walking around the dining room and a customer was returning to his seat. They were walking towards each other and the waiter didn't let up. He walked on through so that the customer had to step aside so that he could pass before taking his seat.

19 posted on 12/17/2002 12:19:16 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: luckodeirish
Around here the cashiers either silently hand back my change or ....worse....say "Here". They don't even know HOW to count back from the purchase price to the amount you gave them. (old fashion way of ensuring accuracy...NOW, the machine is infallible THEY think, but I have often found that my purchases were rung up INaccurately. When that happens and I call attention to it, they tell me to go to the service desk. Lost: one future customer....ME)
20 posted on 12/17/2002 12:20:30 PM PST by Carolinamom
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