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U.S. Seen As 'Fortress America'
CBS News ^ | 12/18/02 | Ian Stewart

Posted on 12/19/2002 10:24:13 PM PST by hoosierskypilot

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To: ffusco
Next time I'll explain the mysterious system of burroughs that make up NYC.

Please, spare me.

BTW: Boxer and Fein are much worst than Hillary because they actually believ the BS they peddle while Hillary knows she is a lying sack of shit.

Boxer and feindstien are worse that Hillary Clinton? How can that be? There is only one female worse than Hillary, and that's Ms Reno......Another eastcoaster I might add :o

41 posted on 12/20/2002 4:05:18 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Go Dub Go; hoosierskypilot
I agree with you. What's up with the constant California bashing? Hmm, we have the best weather in the country, the fifth largest economy in the world, and every educational, cultural and recreational possibility is available to us. I can look out my front windows and see the ocean, and out my back windows (today, at least) and see snow on the mountains. We can play golf, surf and barbecue all year long.

Well I think that answer to that is obvious. Outside of our political idiots, and I might add that BOXER and GRAY DAVIS ARE FROM NEW YORK. Hehehe

It kills me how everyone likes to bash Californians. I've lived here my whole life and only know about ten Californians.

You bet. If you removed all the folks that aren't from here, the place would be just about empty.

Don't worry about it. Most of them are green with jealousy. Always been like that. How would you like to be freezing your butt off 5 months out of every year and sliding around on ice, decorated by brown snow? Sure we got political problems, but there is no where else I would rather be....

42 posted on 12/20/2002 4:26:26 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Wonder Warthog
You have to remember, Hitlery is, in actuality, the Senator from New York CITY.

Actually she is the senator of New York state. And like I mentioned earlier, two of our idiots, Boxer and Gray Davis are also from New York.

And yes, I know some places in upstate New York are nice and not NY City. Just like most of Cal aint San Francisco and LA.

43 posted on 12/20/2002 4:53:21 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"Charlie is from the good ol mid west...."

Yea, but it took CA to make him a star.

44 posted on 12/20/2002 5:35:51 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
"Charlie is from the good ol mid west...." Yea, but it took CA to make him a star.

A star? Last I heard he was sitting in a cage, quite gray and arguing with the toilet in his cell. It's Amazing what Midwesterners consider a "star".

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

45 posted on 12/20/2002 5:41:02 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Cobra64
Hispanic chicks shave their eyebrows? Do they know that those things won't grow back a lot of the time?

My experience with hispanic gals is daydreaming about Selma Hayek.

46 posted on 12/20/2002 5:46:32 PM PST by quebecois
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Ever been to Niagara Falls, or Lake Placid? Ever been anywhere in New York? 80% of the state is farm country and forest.
47 posted on 12/20/2002 6:02:52 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Captainpaintball
If we spread our nuclear waste a mile wide across our border, we won't need to bury it in Nevada, and wont need border guards. Just daily air drops of N.waste. Should be a considerable deterant.
48 posted on 12/20/2002 6:12:22 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: Cobra64
I cut across the northeast US with a carload of friends on the way to a science fiction convention in Toronto. We went through upstate NY up to the border crossing at Buffalo and observed some of the most heavenly countryside I have ever seen - almost like a Currier & Ives print. Once we came around a corner and saw a flock of wild turkeys on the hillside - memorable indeed.
49 posted on 12/20/2002 6:16:27 PM PST by coydog
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To: Cobra64; coydog; ffusco; hoosierskypilot
Ever been to Niagara Falls, or Lake Placid? Ever been anywhere in New York? 80% of the state is farm country and forest.

Please read #43. And yes I have been to New York at least 20 times, very nice.

But it don't beat California, the crown jewel of this great country.

Where some areas of the state look like the great deserts of the Australian outback, while others look like the rain forest of South America, still others appear like the great Swiss Alps, with towering peaks that reach almost 15,000 feet above sea level, the highest point in the continental US, to the lowest point in the U.S. where Death Valley Scotty built a castle in the desert, something out of a dream, while still others appear like the beaches of Hawaii, and other areas with the tallest trees in the world, and still other areas that are right out of Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer.

This country is filled with beautiful areas. California just happens to be my favorite. As you can see, I am biased, It's my state and I am very proud to be here.

Merry Christmas to all.....

50 posted on 12/20/2002 6:49:15 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: NYTexan
Hey!!! You're talkin to the guy who INVENTED that "Line The Border With Nuclear Waste" method of controlling illegal immigration!!!

Glad to see someone else that thinks like I do!!! if you and I joined forces...there'd be two of us!

"The smart ones won't even try to cross, the stupid ones will die along the way, and the survivors can be seen at night, glowing, making it much easier to shoot 'em!"

Pass it along: "Line The Borders With Nuclear Waste!!!"

51 posted on 12/21/2002 12:44:23 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Most of them are green with jealousy.

No doubt. I'm sure they're jealous that we've turned over the prettiest city in CA (San Francisco) to perverts and street dregs. My favorite aspect of San Fran is the drug addicts and AIDS infested people urinating and defecating on the streets.

I'm sure they're jealous of the fact that 50% of the population doesn't even speak English.

I'm sure they're jealous of the fact that our universities are staffed by tenured professors who are communists and socialists. (I happen to be a student in one of our esteemed universities and know whereof I speak.)

I'm sure they're jealous of our incredibly high cost of living. I'm sure they're jealous of the fact that the median price of a (modest) home is $300,000.

I'm sure they're jealous of our traffic jams. (My last trip to LA took me four hours just to get across the city.)

I'm sure they're jealous of Berkeley, home of traitors, seditionists and rebels.

I'm sure they're jealous of the fact that one cannot even buy a centerfire rifle that has either a pistol grip or a flash suppressor.

I'm sure they're jealous of our in-your-face militant homosexual rights movement.

Sorry. You could not be more wrong. Most of the USA holds CA in contempt. They could care less about our food or weather. Some things are more important than comfort.

52 posted on 12/21/2002 2:03:42 AM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: VOA
"Venture forth for punitive missions" I like that construction. "It's time for the punitive missions force to swing into action!" Maybe in Venezuela?
53 posted on 12/21/2002 2:19:17 AM PST by 185JHP
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To: hoosierskypilot
No doubt. I'm sure they're jealous that we've turned over the prettiest city in CA (San Francisco) to perverts and street dregs. My favorite aspect of San Fran is the drug addicts and AIDS infested people urinating and defecating on the streets.

Drugs, fags, crime, traffic, illegals? Every state has that, and your cities are loaded with it too. LOL! Get real. And don't be so angry.

My Dad use to tell me that his relatives from Ohio were always jealous of where he lived in Cal 50 years ago. It was a joking back and forth thing, be it was obvious to him. Especially come the fall and winter months.

California is a huge state, the crown Jewel of this great country.

Where else in this country can you finde some areas that resemble the great deserts of the Australian outback?

Others look like the rain forest of South America, still others appear like the great Swiss Alps.

Other areas with towering peaks that reach almost 15,000 feet above sea level, the highest point in the continental US, to the lowest point in the U.S. where Death Valley Scotty built a castle in the desert, something out of a dream.

While still others appear like the beaches of Hawaii, and other areas with the tallest trees in the world, and other areas that are right out of Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer.

Only about 5 regions on earth with the same climatic conditons.

This country is filled with beautiful areas, as I have been to your state and about 42 others including 6 different countries. California just happens to be my favorite place on earth. As you can see, I am biased, It's my state and I am very proud to be here.

Cheer up and don't be so dang jealous! Merry Christmas to all.....

54 posted on 12/21/2002 10:56:34 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The crown jewel of this great country? Were you born stupid or is it simply your life's ambition?

California has always served as a conduit into America for perversion, left wing ideology and treason. You're either a child ("My dad says......") or stoned.

California is a cancer to America; a blight on civiled man.

I, too, live in California and am duly impressed by the weather and recreational facilities. But the moral and political situation in this accursed state are at crisis proportions.

And it's no wonder, if CA's "conservatives" like you choose to hide your heads in the clouds and pretend all is well.

55 posted on 12/21/2002 11:21:00 AM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: 185JHP
"It's time for the punitive missions force to swing into action!" Maybe in Venezuela?

I am now truly confused about Venzuela.
Up until about yesterday, I thought Pres. Chavez was clearly the guy that needs to
take a permanent vacation...then I'm reading a news article that says even the
Marxist groups of Venezuela were p-ssed off at Chavez.

Maybe he is still a guy who needs pushed from office...maybe this is the
case of a guy (Chavez) who has made for the "strange bedfellows" grouping of capitalists,
democratic types, and Marxists...all equally angry at him...
56 posted on 12/21/2002 11:52:50 AM PST by VOA
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To: VOA
Chavez has handlers/backers. The trick is finding out who they are and what they want. The oil issue is not so important when/if we get the Iraq spigot turned on. FReegards
57 posted on 12/21/2002 11:57:46 AM PST by 185JHP
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To: hoosierskypilot
I'm not from Tennessee. Check my moniker. "Hoosier." Get it? As in "Indiana Hoosiers."

I, too, live in California and am duly impressed by the weather and recreational facilities. But the moral and political situation in this accursed state are at crisis proportions.

Lets see, first you say your not in Tennessee and your an Indiana Hoosier, whatever that is, and now you live in California. It's seems you are confused as to where you actually live. I noted no state flag in your profile. Interesting. And revealing

If your in Cal and don't like it, hit the road to Indiana or cornhusker land, Jim. LOL!

Just a bit of advise though. You need to get out of downtown Indianapolis or SF which ever one you may be in.

I'am a native to Cal, unlike people like Boxer and Gray Davis and you, and others who migrated to California from the east and everywhere else.

Yes, the truth of the matter is that some areas that many are absolutely green with envy towards California, with our great deserts that resemble the Australian outback or our regions that look just the rain forest of South America, still others appear like the great Swiss Alps.

Where we routinely go fishing where there are towering peaks that reach almost 15,000 feet above sea level, the highest point in the continental US. Twice a year we go to places like to the lowest point in the U.S. where Death Valley Scotty built a castle in the desert, something out of a dream. Other areas of my state appear like the beaches of Hawaii, and other areas with the tallest trees in the world, and other areas that are right out of Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer.

Only about 5 regions on earth with the same climatic conditions.

This country is filled with beautiful areas, as I have been to your state and about 42 others including 6 different countries. California just happens to be my favorite place on earth. As you can see, I am biased, It's my state and I am very proud to be here.

You can continue to rant and bit*h about California, that's fine. I can only hope that you get in you car and drive to Indianapolis, or where ever you really live. But the problem will be that what you are attempting to avoid is not isolated to Cal. Hell, everyone knows that. Even the cornhuskers I bet.

I can offer you current articles from all over this country, and in Indiana, where people are brutally murdered in the middle of no where, where crime is abundant, drugs, prostitutes, Illegals, and state budgets are in the red by billions, etc etc.

Would you care to see them?

I suggest maybe you by a motorhome, that way you can just keep on running, instead of taking a stand where ever you may be. I couldn't help but notice that your another Freeper that has no state flag in his profile. I find that humorously revealing. But do me a favor. If your in my state, just leave. Oh, and feel free to take as many of your friends with you as possible.

Quit your dang crying. Just get it.

Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

58 posted on 12/21/2002 1:20:47 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
You're starting to believe Hollywood. Maybe, someday, when you grow up and go out on your own, you'll see the reality of the situation. California isn't a national joke for no reason.

By the way, your spelling, grammar and punctuation are atrocious. You come across as an ignorant buffoon. (Or a 13 year-old-kid.)

In the future, if you expect anyone to consider you a credible source of information (instead of, as I suspect, one who derives his information from a two hour movie-of-the-week), edit your posts. Stupidity is only acceptable in CA. But not only Kalifornians read the posts.

Semper fidelis

59 posted on 12/21/2002 1:43:20 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: ffusco
Thank you for your defense of New York State, especially upstate. Indeed, Hadenuf does need to educate himself about NY.

Sitting at my desk, I can look out on 1700 acres of beautiful Sugar Maple covered woodlands, where 4 deer just walked across our creek and through our woods. As far as I'm concerned upstate NY is the best kept secret in the U.S.

Few people know that the Catskill Mtns. are home to the birth of Fly Fishing, The Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, excellent deer and wild turkey hunting and an area where the wild ginseng still flourishes under our ever-increasing forested land.

The fall of the year is absolutely beautiful! Land is affordable and the people are friendly. Where else can you buy 100 acre farm with a 150 year old house, creeks, deer, bear, coyotes, trout fishing and wild turkey hunting for $100,000?

New York City is a country within itself and does not represent the balance of the state. In fact, I have been there once in 13 years and it's only a 4 hour drive from where I sit.

Check out this site to learn more about our area http://www.catskillcenter.org/region.html

Hillary does make her occasional rounds upstate and we enjoy reading about how she gets heckled when she does stick her snout in our neck of the woods. One local tractor dealer advertised the "Hillary Special" on his new sh*t spreader, just in time for her arrival in his hometown of Oneonta, NY.

Upstaters are very conservative and hard-working folks. Good folks whose roots go back to the very beginning of our nation's fight for Independence.

Guns? We've got plenty of 'em and the only restriction is that you have to be "permitted" to own a handgun. NYC is a different story. You have to be a criminal in order to own one.

Thanks again for standing up for NY!




60 posted on 12/21/2002 2:44:06 PM PST by panaxanax
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