Coffee,Tea,or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wifes Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell attheAirport?

lewrockwell.com ^ | 12/18/2002 | Nicholas Monahan

[MineralMan]

"As long as we are going to just make idiotic, blanket accusations (like: "he's a collosal whiner") maybe you are just the kind of person who enjoys having your breasts felt by strangers at the airport?

Sounds like you're not a collosal catch yourself, eh?"

Nice talk, Jhoffa. Sheesh. Personal insults do nothing to further your argument. They work differently than that. Feh!

[Glenn]

It looks like this guy went off from the get go and then the security people made it worse?

It is not that they are not smart, they are forbidden. The TSA can treat you any way it wishes and you'd best just put ice on it.

I'll ask again, flown lately?

[Jhoffa_]

Honestly, what I think is that the frightened and scared among us LOVE the facade that makes them feel "secure".

The rest of the planet is just annoyed that their dog and pony show has become so intrusive as to start "feeling people up" in public and for no good reason.

The borders are wide open and they are feeling some poor lady's breasts, in public to keep us safe?

It's an insult to any thinking American.

[HairOfTheDog]

I was referring to two statements of yours.

"Sounds like you're not a collosal catch yourself, eh?" directed at someone else,

and "(Now I finally understand why God said for women not to teach men.. Oh my.)"

[cajungirl]

Oh my dear, you are a rude boor. I would rather have my breasts screened than endure your insults. But since you did, I must reply. Obviously you have never been pregnant or you would be aware that pregnant women cry at everything. And all modesty is gone,,when you have been to the local sadist posing as a gyn, what you go thru is unbelievable and after doing so nothing upsets you ever again unless is is your husband acting like a boor. I suggest that his proper response to the perceived assault on his woman was for him to hug her, tell her it was over, and say "lets get on the plane dear away from this ASAP. And then be really nice to her. In other words, his macho display was not for her. It was for the men in the vicinity. And unfortunately the men were the kind who don't have to take crap off anyone. And as for whether I am a catch or not. I am in my 60's and have been caught for almost forty years by a man who would never make a scene at an airport thus getting us in soup. He would be softspoken, a gentlemen, pat me on the shoulder and say "Buck up dear". And he would die for me if necessary. This was not the place to make a "stand"...So there my dear. Consider yourself given a free lecture from a grandmother who knows the world a bit.

[Jhoffa_]

Nice talk, Jhoffa. Sheesh. Personal insults do nothing to further your argument. They work differently than that. Feh!

Here we go, hypocties on parade..

You can make any accusation you want about the author of this piece, but if someone does it to you then it's wrong.

And it wasn't an accusation, it's a hypothetical.

I don't think any woman would enjoy that, and I am reasonably sure her husband wouldn't either..

But no, he's a "collosal whiner" Makes perfect sense..

[D.P.Roberts]

The goons were absolutely right. Anyone who would willingly fly on an airline for the past year would have to be seriously disturbed.

[HairOfTheDog]

This isn't about open borders. Jeepers. So if I stuff a basketball under my shirt, no one dare wonder if it is a real baby?

[Semaphore Heathcliffe]

outstanding. To update the old aphorism, the keyboard is mightier than the missle. We must use our words as effectively as possible, on all fronts. It's the greatest benefit of this forum. Here we can sharpen our ideas and share them out, hoping that the best of them spread like wildfire.

[MineralMan]

"You really dont even understand what was wrong about that do you? You have no clue how that may have upset an average person. Do you truly believe he should have just let his wife be humiliated just because someone might try to smuggle a bomb on board in a fake pregnancy disguise? Do you not realize how utterly ridiculous that entire premise is?
"

Having heard only one side of this particular story, I do not have enough information to judge anyone's behavior in those circumstances. Could someone smuggle a bomb in a simulated pregnancy? Sure...it would be easy enough. Did the screeners overreact? Possibly. Did the guy overdo his anger? Could be. I don't know and neither do you. Condemning the entire screening process seems a bit extreme, based on this particular story.

And yes, I do fly...a lot. I get additional screening most of the time, since I have a full beard and travel in jeans and blue work shirts. So far, the additional screenings have been boring, and took just seconds. What do you want to bet that if I got pissed and started hollering about my right that the screening would take longer.

You are not required to fly. If you do, you are subject to the rules regarding security screening. Don't like them? Write your congresscritter or don't fly. Me? I'll keep flying and getting screened. I have work to do and can't waste 4 days to drive cross-country.

[Jhoffa_]

Oh save it..

I know all about it, Pregnant women feel like big, fat cows. Their clothes don't fit right and they are self concious and sick half the time.

I can completely understand why no woman would want the airport rent-a-cops feeling her up and I can certainly understand why her husband wouldn't think mych of the idea either.

Fact of the matter is you are just offended when your own standard is applied to you.

That's typical.. as most hypoctires don't.

[HairOfTheDog]

First, the quote you supplied is not mine...

and you haven't asked me before if I had flown lately, so your impatience is perhaps misdirected, but yes, I have. The first being a month after 9/11. I was scared. But not of the screeners.

[Jhoffa_]

This isn't about open borders. Jeepers. So if I stuff a basketball under my shirt, no one dare wonder if it is a real baby?

I could strap a gun to my leg also, or a wooden stake that will slip past the scanners.

Let's just strip search everyone and then call them names if they don't like the idea.

[Republic of Texas]

They can wonder, hell they can ask to see, just not in public. They can also show some consideration when a pregnant woman and her husband get upset. That is no reason to throw them in a cell, threaten them with a felony, and banish them from the airport. Once it was determined she was pregnant, and neither were a threat, the manly thing do to is apologize for the inconvenience and send them on their way. Unless you are a loser who gets a kick out of hurting (psycologically) other people to build up your own worthless ego.

[HairOfTheDog]

You aren't even making sense now. Do you want them to pat search anyone or not?

[MadelineZapeezda]

I don't fly anymore, not because I'm afreaid, but because I'd probably react like this fellow. My Mom, M-in-law and aunt, all in their late 70's were 'randomly screened' like this, one made to spread her legs in the foot marks provided so she can be wanded is just too much for me to take. I was madder than they were.

I drive to where ever I need to go for now. No wonder the airlines are losing so much money.

[HairOfTheDog]

They were both upset, they didn't both get arrested. Only the one that had a temper tantrum got arrested.

[Jhoffa_]

You aren't even making sense now. Do you want them to pat search anyone or not?

You're fine with feeling up wives, grandmothers, little girls.. anyone they want in public and there's no reason to be offended.

Further, if you are offended then you're a "whiner" Never mind that while this lady and her husband have to go through this the borders are open, after all we have to feel people up for "national security" reasons.

Like I said, there's two groups here. One hiding under uncle sam's bed and one that's not.

[MineralMan]

"I could strap a gun to my leg also, or a wooden stake that will slip past the scanners.

Let's just strip search everyone and then call them names if they don't like the idea."

Not a good idea, I'd say. It appears from your messages that you do not fly much, if at all. Your leg gun will get you handcuffed instantly. It's a felony. Your wooden stake might get through, but not if you get further screening. Again, a felony. How about being considerate of others, removing all the metal from your pockets, don't wear steel-toed shoes and just walk through the screening? How about just following the rules currently applying to air travel and streamlining the whole process? But, if you don't fly, who cares? Just make nasty comments to those who think the extra security just might be worthwhile...once the new screeners get the hang of it. It's your right.