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Another aspect of the Enron story.
1 posted on 12/23/2002 7:22:07 PM PST by Robert357
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To: Robert357; snopercod; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Another Enron corruption story. This one is about oil.
2 posted on 12/23/2002 7:23:05 PM PST by Robert357
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interesting...
3 posted on 12/23/2002 7:24:58 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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Now will the Senate comittee formerly headed by Holy Joe Lieberman have the balls to bring in Saint Bobby Rubin in its probe of Enron to uncover the CitiCorp ties???
5 posted on 12/23/2002 7:58:50 PM PST by Morgan's Raider
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jurors could adopt the opposite view and find the messages "innocuous."

Well, if they're OJ caliber jurors.

Full disclosure: I have, in the past, profited from JP Morgan Chase (formerly Chase Manhattan) stock options. But I was never stupid enough to trust them.

6 posted on 12/23/2002 8:35:27 PM PST by irv
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I don't want to start any conspiracy theories, but I note that Donald Layton is on the board of the Institute of International Finance.
The Institute of International Finance, Inc. (IIF), is the world’s only global association of financial institutions. Created in 1983 in response to the international debt crisis, the IIF has evolved to meet the changing needs of the financial community. Members include most of the world’s largest commercial banks and investment banks, as well as a growing number of insurance companies and investment management firms. Among the Institute’s Associate members are multinational corporations, trading companies, export credit agencies, and multilateral agencies. Approximately half of the Institute’s members are European-based financial institutions, and representation from the leading financial institutions in emerging market countries is also increasing steadily. Today the Institute has more than 320 members headquartered in more than 60 countries.

And what the hell is a ".quagga" file type, anyway?

7 posted on 12/24/2002 4:40:32 AM PST by snopercod
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Amazing that both parties did not agree to make this a bench trial, decided by a judge, without a jury. These are not the sorts of issues that average jurymen are qualified to decide.
8 posted on 12/24/2002 5:18:24 AM PST by aristeides
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The Houston Chronicle reported extensively on these "commodity" transactions several months ago. It was pretty obvious then (even without these emails) that JP Morgan was engaged in phony baloney financial deals with Enron. No gas was ever going to be delivered under these transactions, and it was a very elaborate accounting gimmick.

Morgan should not only not collect from the insurance companies, but some investment bankers belong in jail.

9 posted on 12/24/2002 7:03:38 AM PST by Dog Gone
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six deals with Enron... in which Enron was paid in advance for oil and natural gas to be delivered months or years later.

On the face of it, that's a loan. It has a barter component to it, but it's still a bank putting up cash now and agreeing to be paid back later.

If that a "disguised" loan, I wouldn't call it much of a disguise. It looks like they insured against Enron defaulting; I wonder if they hedged the price of oil as well. If they did, it sounds like prudent bankers with too many lawyers helping them.

I guess the accounting gotcha is on Enron's side: instead of reporting this as debt, they called it a sale and booked the money as revenue. That was not cool.

11 posted on 12/24/2002 9:09:31 AM PST by Nick Danger
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Another (Robert) Rubin masterpiece. /sarcasm
12 posted on 12/26/2002 5:05:03 PM PST by anymouse
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