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Murray defends remark about bin Laden
The Oregonian ^ | 12-24-02 | MATTHEW DALY

Posted on 12/24/2002 8:11:53 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Patty Murray says she intended to be provocative when she told a group of high school students that terrorist leader Osama bin Laden is popular in poor countries because he helped pay for schools, roads and even day care centers.

"We haven't done that," Murray said. "How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?"

The Democrat's remarks, to a group of students in Vancouver, started even more discussion than she expected after they were published Thursday in The Columbian newspaper and then picked up by The Associated Press.

By Friday, the Murray story was the lead item on the "Drudge Report" Web site and a main topic for talk show host Sean Hannity and other conservative pundits.

Murray's comments sparked national debate on talk radio and prompted readers to bombard The Columbian's Web site.

"Between (Murray) and Baghdad Jim (McDermott) I'm surprised the rest of the country even lets Washington send reps to DC anymore," wrote one e-mailer, identified only as robertb.

Another e-mailer, identified as Truthspeaker, said that if Murray "does not like the way President Bush is running the government, then by all means, she is free to leave."

Several readers said Murray should resign and pointed out that Senate Republican Leader Trent Lott lost his post when he made comments widely considered improper.

GOP state Chairman Chris Vance called Murray's comments offensive and urged her to retract them.

"It is absolutely outrageous and despicable to imply that the American government should learn a lesson from the madman who murdered thousands of American citizens," Vance said.

Murray's comments "sent the message to these students that the United States somehow deserved or brought on the September 11 terrorist attacks," Vance said. "I think all decent people can agree that we most certainly did not, that this was an unprovoked attack of terrorism."

Murray said in a statement Friday that Vance and other critics were twisting her words.

"Having a challenging and thoughtful discussion about America's future reflects the best values of a free democracy; to sensationalize and distort in an attempt to divide is not," she said.

Murray's spokesman, Todd Webster, called the senator a victim of a right-wing media machine.

"This is being turned into a circus by the right-wing media outlets and fed by right-wing haters," Webster said.

Asked if he included Vance in that category, Webster said, "Absolutely. I include Vance and the right-wing media and the right-wing establishment."

Webster said Murray's comments, to an honors class at Columbia River High School in Vancouver, were intended to get the students to think about the U.S. role in the world and why bin Laden is popular in many poor countries.

"This was not a dossier of the great works of Osama bin Laden. This is about how do we secure a better and stronger future for this country," Webster said. "Do we close our doors and hunker down, or do we engage the rest of the world?"

In her statement, Murray called bin Laden "an evil terrorist" who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans.

"While we continue to search every corner of the globe to destroy Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network, should we also consider the longer-term issue of what else can be done to improve relations with all nations, including the Arab world?" Murray said. "How else can we bring America's values to those who do not understand us?"

Rep. George Nethercutt, R-Wash., a potential Senate opponent in 2004, called Murray's comments "bizarre" and uninformed. "You have to wonder what country Senator Murray has been living in since September 11th," he said.

Murray "seems to know more about Osama bin Laden's generosity and kindness than she does his hatred for America and his vow to destroy our country," Nethercutt said.

Nethercutt, who is also talked about as a possible candidate for governor, said he welcomed a chance to debate Murray on bin Laden and other topics.

"I'm sure Washington state voters would like to hear more of Senator Murray's very strange view of America and the world," Nethercutt said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: binladen; momintennisshoes; pattymurray; terrorism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
They should get rid of her. She did worse than Lott.
21 posted on 12/24/2002 9:34:09 AM PST by freekitty
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To: solo gringo
she is a commmunist.......

Striking Guild members will be facing escalating pressure to settle over the next week. Sen. Patty Murray has called top company and union officials to Washington, D. C., for a January 3rd mediation session, effectively taking the struggle out of rank-and-file hands.

We must emphasize developing class consciousness, not a trade unionist philosophy of working out deals or electing "honest reformers." Then whatever deal is forced on the workers, a lasting victory can be built on a growing movement for workers’ power.

http://www.plp.org/cd01/cd0110.html

22 posted on 12/24/2002 9:37:20 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
My letter to Senator Murray:

Never mind your comments about Bin Laden. How dare you describe Americans as "[J]ust being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan"?

Haven't you ever heard of the peace corps? Haven't you heard of Senator Frist, who has gone to Africa to treat AIDS patients? I suppose friends and relatives of mine who have helped build water systems and ministered to the sick in the 3rd world don't really count to you, do they?

Nope, you just want to ask a provocative question -- but you ask it, based on incorrect assumptions that cast America in a bad light and denigrate the work of many Americans who have been there. Many Americans have build roads and schools, healed the sick, and taught the children. Many have died doing so. How dare you say “We haven’t done that.”?


23 posted on 12/24/2002 9:38:01 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Patty ratty is a commie rat

http://www.plp.org/
24 posted on 12/24/2002 9:39:02 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: ppaul
You missed one....Sen. Cantwell, another Clinton Kool Aid Drinker without a brain in her head. My state of WASHINGTON needs help!!
25 posted on 12/24/2002 9:51:19 AM PST by cousair
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To: All
The Seattle papers are saying as little as possible about Patty's potty mouth. The local papers say she has been going to many of the local schools for some time talking Osama bin Laden up, telling students they need to question their government. Remarks like hers, coming from a Senator, no less, need to be shown the light of day, and Ms. Murray shown the door, tennis shoes and all. We have enough Blame America First folks in this country. Remarks like Murray"s offend every family touched by 9/ll worldwide, and especially every hero in the armed forces sent to protect us all and our beloved country.
26 posted on 12/24/2002 10:00:09 AM PST by cousair
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To: Sabertooth
Patty Murray is the typical brain-dead Liberal that people keep electing.
27 posted on 12/24/2002 10:03:55 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
what a idiot, I hate these people so much sometimes. What a disgrace to every victim on the WTC and every person in the military. Which WA has allot of
28 posted on 12/24/2002 10:26:37 AM PST by ezo4
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To: Thud
A digging the hole deeper ping.
29 posted on 12/24/2002 10:40:55 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Funny, isn't it? When one of OURS crams his foot down his throat, we take the appropriate and proper action to remove or marginalize him.

The RATS dig their heels in and spit at their attackers. Does anyone really believe that they disapprove of these skinwasters in their midst?

If they do, why do they tolerate their presence? For that matter, why does ANY American?


30 posted on 12/24/2002 10:47:21 AM PST by Long Cut
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Thanks for the email link. I just wrote and asked for an apology to America.
31 posted on 12/24/2002 10:50:43 AM PST by Cagey
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Doctor Raoul; Howlin; Liz; Mudboy Slim
"How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that..."

They would want to blow us up - and this boob would probably help.

32 posted on 12/24/2002 10:59:58 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather; MurryMom
Murray's a Moron...not you, dumplin'...MUD
33 posted on 12/24/2002 11:08:16 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
By Friday, the Murray story was the lead item on the "Drudge Report" Web site and a main topic for talk show host Sean Hannity and other conservative pundits...

...but conspciuously ignored by ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, AP, USA Today, The NY Times, The Washington Post etc. etc. etc.


34 posted on 12/24/2002 11:17:40 AM PST by Fintan
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To: Sabertooth; Oldeconomybuyer; All

Uh...did I say something wrong?...

Doh !

35 posted on 12/24/2002 11:26:28 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811813/posts?page=13#13

Murray to Press - "Patty Tired!"
AP - December 2002 - Dateline Seatle Zoo

An irate Patty Murray swung angrily from her tire here today, denouncing her critics' negative reviews of her remarks praising Osama bin Laden.

"Patty tired!" Day signed as the hirsute congressthing shrieked in rage and flung her feces at rapidly retreating critics. Murray, through her interpreter added "Apple not love tired Patty!"

Zoo officials were at a loss of explain her behavior.

36 posted on 12/24/2002 11:28:10 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Now, why didn't we think of that? Compare and contrast this "what-if" scenario:

Sen. Patty Murray says she intended to be provocative when she told a group of high school students that terrorist leader Osama bin Laden is popular in poor countries because he helped pay for schools, roads and even day care centers.

Senator Lott said he intended to be provocative when he told a group of Thurmond supporters that the country would have been better off if Thurmond won the presidency in 1948.

Murray said in a statement Friday that Vance and other critics were twisting her words. "Having a challenging and thoughtful discussion about America's future reflects the best values of a free democracy; to sensationalize and distort in an attempt to divide is not," she said. Murray's spokesman, Todd Webster, called the senator a victim of a right-wing media machine. "This is being turned into a circus by the right-wing media outlets and fed by right-wing haters," Webster said.

Lott said in a statement Friday that critics were twisting his words. "Having a challenging and thoughtful discussion about America's future reflects the best values of a free democracy; to sensationalize and distort in an attempt to divide is not," he said. Lott's spokesman called the senator a victim of a left-wing media machine. "This is being turned into a circus by the left-wing media outlets and fed by left-wing haters," the spokesman said.

-PJ

37 posted on 12/24/2002 11:40:32 AM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is the one that thinks bin Laden built roads and bridges?
38 posted on 12/24/2002 11:42:39 AM PST by The Raven
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
>>Osama bin Laden is popular in poor countries because he helped pay for schools, roads and even day care centers.

And, Patty, he's not popular here because......

39 posted on 12/24/2002 11:46:10 AM PST by The Raven
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Great post, OEB !

Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA)
 
2nd-term Democrat Liberal 'RAT from Washington.
American Conservative Union Ratings

Senate

Senate 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2001 2000 YOS Life
Maria Cantwell (D) - - + - - - + - - - - - - - - - - + - - - - - - 12 1 12
Patty Murray (D) - - - - - - - - - - - A - - - - - + - - - - - - 4 8 9 2

See the Senate Votes Description for more detailed information about these votes.

40 posted on 12/24/2002 11:50:22 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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