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North Korean nuclear reactor now operational(AXIS OF EVIL ALERT)
Fox News | 12/25/02

Posted on 12/25/2002 11:32:46 AM PST by Sparta

Fox has just reported the North Koreans now have fueled the reactor and it is online and ready to produce. Developing....


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Merry Christmas from the Commie bastards.
1 posted on 12/25/2002 11:32:46 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
The world is going to be a lot different ny 12/25/03.
2 posted on 12/25/2002 11:37:58 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Sparta
How the heck do you get a plant that has been down ten years,without any maintenance,started up that quickly.
3 posted on 12/25/2002 11:41:18 AM PST by eastforker
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To: Semper Paratus
Yeah, it will probaby have a few less major cities in the ME and Korea, and possibly in the U.S.
4 posted on 12/25/2002 11:43:19 AM PST by Norman Arbuthnot
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To: eastforker
How the heck do you get a plant that has been down ten years,without any maintenance,started up that quickly.

Dont they have more than one?

5 posted on 12/25/2002 11:44:44 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: eastforker
Scary huh. They just started a nuke reactor that has been cold since 1994....

I swear the NK's are a looney bunch.

6 posted on 12/25/2002 11:46:26 AM PST by Dog
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To: Sparta
I'm wondering if someone can explain to me what this means. Sorry to sound so ignorant. What do they do when they reopen one of these plants? I realize it has to do with nuclear weapons, but don't know the technical stuff.
7 posted on 12/25/2002 11:50:17 AM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: Dog
If a refinery was to shut down for ten years,it would take several months before you get it back online,after several hundred people worked on it.
8 posted on 12/25/2002 11:50:34 AM PST by eastforker
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To: eastforker
Is this a Chernobyl style reactor???
9 posted on 12/25/2002 11:59:37 AM PST by Dog
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To: eastforker
I just did a google search....it is a Soviet style reactor..
10 posted on 12/25/2002 12:03:08 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Take this stinking reactor out. It may cause some radioactive fallout towards Japan, but we can rest assured what is being produced in this reactor is destined for use on the American people.
11 posted on 12/25/2002 12:05:03 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: eastforker
You don't. Not unless you expected to be starting it up again.
They had plans on starting it up again.
They knew that they'd be starting it up again.
Meaning: They knew we'd be attacked and we'd trace some o fthe fault back to their door. They want to be able to threaten and bully back. (In their eyes.)
12 posted on 12/25/2002 12:10:08 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Sparta
Merry Christmas from the Commie bastards.






13 posted on 12/25/2002 12:11:06 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: eastforker
Take out? Sure.
A special delivery of kim shee to the northers there.
Maybe salted with a little cesium and iodine isotopes....
15 posted on 12/25/2002 12:19:22 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Dog
If by Cherobyl style reactor you mean it's main purpose is produce plutonium for N-bombs, yes, that is what it is. It won't generate much power.

The NKs will soon be in a position to take orders for nukes from al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Iraq, etc., etc.

This is like a game of chicken and the NKs just threw their steering wheel out the window.

16 posted on 12/25/2002 12:21:30 PM PST by Norman Arbuthnot
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To: Sabertooth
Oh yes, Kim Jong Il, syphilitic pretender who could only defeat the south if they conveniently crossed the road while he was driving.

(Remember how he ran over a few women and children while driving his car back in the 80's? Kinda funny how the press suppressed it back then..)
17 posted on 12/25/2002 12:21:49 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Norman Arbuthnot
They intended to do it all along.
They've been doing maintenance on it all this time, specifically to do this.
18 posted on 12/25/2002 12:29:22 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Darksheare
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/index.html

The North Korean military
19 posted on 12/25/2002 12:30:47 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
I'm willing to bet those fuel ods aren't in storage anymore, nor have they been for a long long time.
I bet the North Koreans have a total of eight nukes.
And since they do have the ability to produce and store Tritium and Deuterium, they can make more powerful nukes as well...
20 posted on 12/25/2002 12:36:18 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: eastforker
Good question.
21 posted on 12/25/2002 12:38:00 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Sparta
When W is through celebrating Kwanza, these units will likely have be taken out.
22 posted on 12/25/2002 12:42:28 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Husker24
They've done constant upkeep on the reactor.
They've planned to start it up again for awhile, and they were probably aware of other things prior .. I.e.. they were aware of the attacks on us. And supported them.
We have traced such things back monetarily to them, and Iraq as well as others.

So they've flipped the proverbial switch on at the reactor in an effort to try and keep us off of them. (Blackmail, in effect.)
They know they don't have too much time left before we have all the evidence we need.
23 posted on 12/25/2002 12:45:39 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Sparta
The North Korean military is like a giant Soviet military museum, I cant believe they still have 250 T-34's top of the line WWII tech.
24 posted on 12/25/2002 1:00:00 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Husker24
Anybody consider this turn of events as maybe a sign that Iraq has the bomb ready and fuel is all they need.

Could the timing be now as the shelf life of fuel and nuke components is short and they (Iraq) are ready!

25 posted on 12/25/2002 1:37:22 PM PST by George from New England
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To: Husker24
The North Korean military is good enough for the terrain of the Korean peninsula. Also, their infantry is armed with the usual excellent Soviet small arms. (AKM, PK, SKS, etc.)
26 posted on 12/25/2002 1:42:54 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Husker24; Darksheare
http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/asia.htm

Another website with info about South Korean, Japanese, and other Asian militaries.
27 posted on 12/25/2002 1:47:51 PM PST by Sparta
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To: George from New England; Sparta; eastforker; Husker24
Its almost like the Axis of Evil had a conference call last month and agreed to help each other.

A fight in Korea would not be a cakewalk for us....it would be fighting from ridgeline to ridgeline.

Those 35,000+ Americans would become hostages until we could move enough assets into the region to take back the South.

And while we were dealing with this problem.... Saddam would be making mischief in his part of the sandbox.

28 posted on 12/25/2002 1:51:57 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
The United States is going to have to use tactical nuclear weapons in either Iraq or North Korea or both.. We simply have to get over our phobia of our best tool of war.
29 posted on 12/25/2002 2:00:32 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Sparta
Time to chop the top off the North Korean beast.
30 posted on 12/25/2002 2:58:11 PM PST by per loin
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To: Sparta
That "clinton legacy" just never stops giving... cross-link:

-The Atomic Genie- what we know about North Korea's Nuclear program--

31 posted on 12/25/2002 3:02:43 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Sparta; Dog
Its almost like the Axis of Evil had a conference call last month and agreed to help each other.
"The failure of US policy makers to comprehend the veiled aggressiveness and hostility towards the United States inherent in Sino-Russian strategy and the belief that the political and economic reforms in Russia and the partial introduction of capitalism in China have foreshadowed these countries' development into real democracies, have eroded the effectiveness of US policies in the foreign affairs, defence, intelligence and counter-intelligence fields. US policymakers have recklessly accepted the premise that Russia and China are no longer their enemies, but are rather potential allies and partners fully deserving of US support. Only countries like Iran, Iraq and North Korea - which (ironically, in this context) work secretly with Russia and China - are still considered potential adversaries."
32 posted on 12/25/2002 3:02:57 PM PST by Orion78
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To: Sparta
Thank you Pakistan.

Here's hoping for a catastrophic accident that renders hundreds of square miles of North Korea uninhabitable for a century.

Do ya suppose the odds of an accident could be "encouraged" somehow?
33 posted on 12/25/2002 3:14:32 PM PST by AngrySpud
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To: Orion78
Does anyone believe that this is not coordinated among those involved, including communist China, which sees itself as the victor so far?
34 posted on 12/25/2002 3:19:52 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: AmericanVictory
Yes, pretty much everybody I try to point it out to. Most dismiss Golitsyn's work as either "musty old documents" or "tin foil".
35 posted on 12/25/2002 3:22:57 PM PST by Orion78
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To: AngrySpud
"Here's hoping for a catastrophic accident that renders hundreds of square miles of North Korea uninhabitable for a century."

Well, only if you consider the impact of multiple "daisy cutters", fuel-air bombs, and bunker busters as an "accident".

36 posted on 12/25/2002 3:25:27 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Sparta
One thing we have left out of the North Korea situation. Their Godless, pinko fellow travelers in China. Any attack by us I fear ends up like the 1950's all over again. NK, maybe we could woop 'em, Add the PRC and we are in a world of hurt.
37 posted on 12/25/2002 3:29:04 PM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: Sparta
N Korean Nuclear Arsenal

By Lee Wha Rang

The US-N Korea Geneva Nuclear Accord freezes N Korea's nuke "activities" in return for six billion-plus dollars in aids. N Korea's existing nuclear sites are not immediately affected. The accord does not address the "existing" nuclear devices. Its primary interest appears to be curtailing further expansion of nuke production in N Korea.

Nuke Sites

About 70 lb. were believed to have been extracted from the reactors since 1991. In 1992, N Korea bought 120 lb. of plutonium from a former Soviet block country and may have produced 10 bombs. It is quite possible that N Korea has acquired additional nuclear material from the former Soviet republics.

Most intelligence sources, including Russian and Chinese, state that N Korea has close to 10 operational nuclear warheads for its missiles and two nuclear devices that can be carried by truck , boat or transport aircraft. N Korean warheads are of 50 KT class, weighing around 1,100 lb.

N Korean Missiles

N Korea has deployed over 300 Nodong-x (medum range - Japan and Okinawa) and close to a thousand Scud-B/C missiles (short range - S Korea) all of which can carry nuclear or chemical warheads. NoDong-1's have a range of 1,300km and NoDong-2's have a range of 1,500-2,000km. N Korea is believed to have a limited number of Taepodong-x ICBMs (long range - America) hidden in underground tunnels.

The Taepo Dong-2 ICBM has a maximum range of 6,200 miles. The US DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) estimates that the missile has a range of about 4,650 miles with large nuclear warheads and 6,200 miles with smaller warheads. At the extreme of 6,200 mil es, the missile could reach all major West Coast cities (Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego,,,) and reach as far east as Chicago.

38 posted on 12/25/2002 3:47:40 PM PST by Mensch
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To: AmericanVictory; belmont_mark
I dunno how many times I have been told by the likes of Stavka2 that "I spent to much time in bomb shelters in the sixties" which only makes me laugh because I wasn't even alive then. I've even been told I am "trying to hate the Soviet Union back into existance".

All I'm trying to do is get people to think about it. Sure, maybe Golitsyn is wrong, (though every link on my homepage would suggest otherwise), but either way, should we really be letting our guard down? Should we really get rid of our nuclear arsenals and toss aside our missile defense plans? Should we really allow countries who were our enemy for 50-60 years join the organizations which protected us from them after only 10 years of "changing their ways"?

The news media goes on and on about how "Communism is dead" and "terrorism is the new threat", but people want so badly to believe we "won the Cold War" they don't look past just the threat of terrorism. Russia and China send money, weapons and resources to Iraq, Iran, Syria, and North Korea, which in turn send the same to terrorist groups like Hizzbolah and the PLO. These terrorist groups then go out and perpetrate the most heinous of crimes against humanity. Sure, Russia and China issue statements condemning it, but under the surface of smiles and diplomatic pleasantries, they continue to provide the means for terrorists to persue their "Jihad" against America and the Western world.

People have told me Russia couldn't/wouldn't have anything to do with Islam but it only reminds me of what Lenin said about "useful idiots" who could be exploited up to the hilt in the Communist interest.

Am I right? Is Golitsyn right? Only time will tell for sure because until it comes to pass there is no "smoking gun", but shouldn't we as Americans, the protectors of Life, Liberty and Happiness, always keep our guard up? Should we not always keep glancing over our shoulder, ever vigilant in our watch? For if we don't have the foresight to see our enemy plotting against us and maintain the capacity to defend that which is truthful and self-evident from those who would take it from us, who on this Earth will?

39 posted on 12/25/2002 3:59:16 PM PST by Orion78
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To: eastforker
Perhaps it was dormant not down.
40 posted on 12/25/2002 4:48:36 PM PST by Colonel Jim
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To: Monty22
"The United States is going to have to use tactical nuclear weapons in either Iraq or North Korea or both.. We simply have to get over our phobia of our best tool of war."

No, I think that either nation could use some STRATEGIC NUCLEAR WEAPONS as an instructional tool for others to learn from. Use some of the 15-25 megaton warheads for effect.

41 posted on 12/25/2002 5:13:20 PM PST by 11B3
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To: StoneColdTaxHater
Don't also forget the Russian military. Yeah they're not the Red Army, but many have combat experience in Chechnya and they still have tens of thousands of tanks in storage.
42 posted on 12/25/2002 5:29:12 PM PST by Sparta
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To: tomahawk
Take this stinking reactor out. It may cause some radioactive fallout towards Japan, but we can rest assured what is being produced in this reactor is destined for use on the American people. Hey - I am an American in Japan ( southern ) and there are plenty more of us over here in military and not . You want fallout raining down on my kids ????
43 posted on 12/25/2002 6:12:39 PM PST by sushiman
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To: tomahawk
" Take this stinking reactor out. It may cause some radioactive fallout towards Japan, but we can rest assured what is being produced in this reactor is destined for use on the American people. "

Hey - I am an American in Japan ( southern ) and there are plenty more of us over here in military and not . You want fallout raining down on my kids ????

44 posted on 12/25/2002 6:17:22 PM PST by sushiman
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To: Sparta
A bunch of dog eating pajama wearing subhumans playing with fire.

They will get burned.

45 posted on 12/25/2002 7:33:39 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: sushiman
Of course not, hope you are all safe, but you may want to consider getting out of harm's way if a military strike becomes necessary.
46 posted on 12/25/2002 7:59:45 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: Sparta
Looks like we are gonna blow up North Korea. That will be 2 legs of out of 3(axis of evil). Iran will implode after the first 2 legs are gone.

Zippity doo da Zippity day.......Iraq we are headed your way.
49 posted on 12/25/2002 8:16:00 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So
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To: Sparta
Come 1/3/2003 there could very well be a nuclear smackdown going on all over the place.
50 posted on 12/25/2002 8:25:57 PM PST by Centurion2000
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