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To: Godel
Are we so selfish a culture that we commit cultural suicide rather than have a second or third child?

Yes we are that selfish a Western culture. The government, especially the socialist professional bureaucrats of the US and Europe, are ferociously discriminatory against children, all under an astonishingly brazen cover-up that they do it all "for the children."

This explains the Left's lust for high taxes, amorality, abortion on demand, their systematic removal of all trace of religion from public life, etc.

There is an overwhelming pressure against children here, worse in the more socialist states of Europe. I remember this de-population problem first appeared in communist Eastern Europe in the 1960's. It has spread, like the plague it is, ever Westwards. Actually the Black Plague will ultimately be shown to be less deadly that this new plague of cultural suicide.

27 posted on 12/26/2002 10:40:19 AM PST by friendly
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To: friendly
There is an overwhelming pressure against children here, worse in the more socialist states of Europe. I remember this de-population problem first appeared in communist Eastern Europe in the 1960's. It has spread, like the plague it is, ever Westwards. Actually the Black Plague will ultimately be shown to be less deadly that this new plague of cultural suicide.

I know, its SICK. We are taxes so much and women have to work instead of staying home to build a family, and we have to pay for college etc so that children become an economic burden. Meanwhile in the third world, they have 6-8 children, and they dont even have to worry about supporting them, because good ol USA and Europe will feed them. No matter how many kids the third world has, we'll ship them enough grain, medicine, etc to take care of them, while our own nation goes extinct. When I hear leaders talking about the AIDS "crisis" in Africa which doesnt even make a demographic blip, while ignoring the genocide of historic proportions occuring here and in Europe, it makes me sick. I'm glad to see the New York times reporting this, I've been banging the drums on this issue for over a year, ever since I started reading UN birthrate statistics and realized the truth. I feel like Cassandra from Greek Mythology, destined to know the future, but ignored and powerless to alter it.

So many horrible events have come to together at once to wipe us out, birth control, abortion on demand, massive taxation/socialism making children a burden on those who work, radical feminism encouraging women not to have children, selfish materialistic men determined not to start a family, massive third world birthrates, a liberal media telling us we're morally obligated to work even harder, having less kids, in order to feed and clothe the third worlds 8+ kids per woman, massive immigration hiding the problem from us so that we don't realize it until it's too late.

28 posted on 12/26/2002 10:58:06 AM PST by Godel
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Yes we are that selfish a Western culture

Nice post.

Also remember the fate of Balshazzar--and that one of HIS 'gods' was the 'god of gold.'

Mene, mene, tekel upharsin...

61 posted on 12/27/2002 8:51:54 AM PST by ninenot
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