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Interesting to see a decent review of a military history book in the AJC. I have not read this book, but it looks pretty interesting. The promised first chapter doesn't appear to be on line, as promised; perhaps it will appear tomorrow.

It's worthwhile to note that this month's Soldier of Fortune magazine also has a revealing article about Air Force generals acting to protect themselves and their sacred cows, rather than the front-line pilots.

1 posted on 12/29/2002 3:46:59 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Sparta
Ping.
2 posted on 12/29/2002 3:47:25 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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Everyone else was out of the house today, so I had time to read this through without interruption. It's a great book!

This isn't just Air Force and F16 history, the events covered affected all services, the military history ranges from the Korean war to the Gulf war. It includes an introduction into J. Boyd's thinking on conflict. According to the book, some put J. Boyd's work into the same class as Sun Tzu and Clausewitz. Similar to those two, his ideas have entered the lexicon of business strategy, and probably (though more quietly) into that of politics.

It's well worth the time. There are a couple of web sites dedicated to Mr Boyds work.. but I didn't note them on the first pass through the book, so you'll have to wait for somebody more thorough to find them .. or lookup 'OODA Loops' on the web.

I was never in the military, but J. Boyds approach to the problems of being right but non-orthodox while working in a large organization struck home to this cubicle dweller.

4 posted on 12/29/2002 4:03:29 PM PST by slowhandluke
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bttt
5 posted on 12/29/2002 4:07:07 PM PST by Balata
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Boyd and Military Strategy
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... The purpose of this paper is to explain how I adapted a process model developed
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6 posted on 12/29/2002 4:09:46 PM PST by backhoe
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*sigh*

Another book on the "must read before I die list."

I better live to 120, or else go to prison for a long long time.

7 posted on 12/29/2002 4:12:48 PM PST by Skooz
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Technically, based on the contents of the article, Boyd looks more like someone who improved military tactics, not strategy. Minor quibble though; excellent article. Original thinkers are pretty rare; rarer still in the peacetime military, where following protocol takes precedence over originality.
8 posted on 12/29/2002 4:13:12 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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I have to wonder why he retired as a Colonel. Passed over for BG? In that case, the AF would seem to have some explaining to do.

Also - I must be wrong, but my recollection is that Marine ground forces weren't used in Desert Storm except as a bluff. Can somebody set me straight on this?

10 posted on 12/29/2002 4:34:34 PM PST by Grut
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FYI there is a growing number of persons in and around the military that refer to themselves as Boydians. From accountants to Intel. Read the book... resistance is futile...

"Believe and live"

B
11 posted on 12/29/2002 4:34:58 PM PST by Bobibutu
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Sounds interesting.

I remember reading a book by Adolph Galland in which he claimed that Woerner Moelders (sp?) A German pilot, developed most modern combat fighter tactics.

12 posted on 12/29/2002 4:41:13 PM PST by yarddog
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FYI BUMP!
16 posted on 12/29/2002 4:45:20 PM PST by Balata
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Now this has me wondering..............

As an AF Academy cadet in the mid '70's, I took a course taught by a particular Captain whose name now eludes me. This was a fascinating course that was, in effect, a class on "problem solving techniques". It was, hands down, one of the best courses I ever took. The "strawman" technique of building a solution, then tearing it down until very little remained......only to begin rebuilding your solution yet again, repeating this painful process over and over........was incredibly powerful.

The Captain had been a protege' of a Colonel who this Captain claimed to be the "father of the lightweight fighter program". The man was, apparently, a true genius......and my instructor couldn't say enough about him. I'm wondering if it was Boyd.

IF it was Boyd, two interesting tidbits passed on to us by the good Captain.

A) The Colonel once said that he could develop the best tank on earth.............because he knew absolutely nothing whatsoever about tanks.

B) The Colonel used to delight in the fact that his measured IQ was only 85. You read that right...........85.

36 posted on 12/30/2002 5:19:14 AM PST by RightOnline
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FYI ping.
39 posted on 12/30/2002 5:37:43 AM PST by hchutch
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Is this the same Col. Boyd that Chuck Yeager refers to in his book?
41 posted on 12/30/2002 6:00:12 AM PST by nightdriver
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