With Missionaries Spreading, Muslims' Anger Is Following (NYT sees missionaries deserving of death)

New York Times ^ | Dec. 31, 2002 | SUSAN SACHS

[twntaipan]

Nope, I'd say you about covered it all!

[denydenydeny]

Can you imagine a story about Muslims killed in America being phrased in this manner by the Times?

As [Muslim immigrant] emissaries have spread throughout the [Western] world, their presence has increasingly proved to be a lightning rod for anti-[Muslim] sentiment while provoking the anger of [secular Muslims and Christian clerics.]

The murder of three [Muslims] yesterday at the [mosque] where they worked in [America], and the killing of another [Muslim] missionary in southern [England] in November, underscored the dangers of working at the intersection of religion and politics.

I don't think so. I think we can write the way that particular story would be written.

[bray]

Islam-The Bridge to the Turd Century

Pray for W and the Truth

[WaterDragon]

The NYTimes is the house-organ for the Left, always has been. And the Left is nothing more, really, than a religious cult. That is why it hates Christianity -- it's most powerful competitor. Which Islam certainly is not.

[esopman]

Thank you for posting this. Yes, it is journalistic swill. Drinkable only by those oblivious to the smell, taste and substance of the internalized and putrid lies of the Left.

We must be careful in the attribution of motives here. Ms. Sachs' hit piece is 'spreading the blame around' as aristeides notes. However, most such newspaper editorializing, passed off as 'news,' does not entirely derive from a premeditated, carefully crafted strategy to promote the agenda of the Left. IT IS THE DEFAULT POSITION OF A PROGRAMMED MIND - SUCH OUTPUT IS ALL THAT CAN COME THROUGH THAT INTERNAL TEMPLATE. The blame spreading is partly intentional, but to a greater extent a picture of her patterning. Some of the operative indentities informing her internal syllogisms are: religious conviction = dumb, unthinking mindset; right wing = evil, close-minded; liberal = caring, accepting, creative, open-minded. She can thus lump all those manifesting a religious conviction together in the same pot. Wahabbi, Baptist, Mennonite....

Sachs is aware of the basic facts of the events, but utterly unable to place them in a larger moral context. If we could sit quietly with her over a glass of Cabernet, she would confess to a 'love of humanity;' an unwillingness to even conceive that one religion might be, well, right; etc. Adrift in a sea of moral relativism, her intellectual ship will not founder until it encounters a reality storm - to wit: 9/11 did succeed in waking a few liberals from their dreams. That said, I have seen some such liberal minds go to their graves without questioning, much less escaping the matrix of such 'thought.'

All of which bodes ill for us. The republic is in deep weeds with this garbage being touted as pate-de-fois-gras. The impact of 9/11 has already faded for most. I cannot imagine the magnitude of the event needed to awaken so many of our intellectual leaders from this slumber.

Blessings on Freepers Everywhere.

[dighton]

Jews give hospital and other care to Muslims in Israel and don't evangelize at all and they are a target of murdering Muslims just *for existing.*

Excellent point. Jews do not proselytize, and they're in the crosshairs anyway.

[nmh]

"In Lebanon, the Roman Catholic diocese and Muslim groups have accused the evangelical Christians of trying to convert Muslims. "

Even Catholics gang up on Christians. How sad.

[FormerLib]

The question was not concerning Christians spreading the message but Protestant Christians attempting to convert Coptic and Orthodox Christians. Since they are already Christian, any attempts to convert them serves the interests of those attempting the conversion and their interests alone.

[FormerLib]

...the many Protestant groups do proselytize in ways that are humble and not intrusive.

But why are they attempting to convert people who are already Christian? Because they do not consider Copts and Orthodox to be Christians.

[Reedbird]

No. There is a difference, however, in forms of proselytizing which seek to undermine a native culture and those which don't. For the record, no missionary deserves to die.

[Destro]

I have said before I find that disgusting.

[The Iguana]

This Catholic wishes his own church were as vigorous in proselytizing the faith in that part of the world as the evanegicals seem to be.

[gaspar]

I find it curious that the NYTimes uses a travel writer to comment on something as serious as this. Having Susan Sachs comment on this subject is like having me commenting on the growth of reform Judaism in Israel. There are better people to do the job.

[Gritty]

Under Muslim law, conversion from Islam is punishable by death.

Under God's Law, not converting from Islam (or from any other religion) to Christ is punishable by death,... but the punishment is at His Hand, in His Time, and in His Way, not man's!

[Darksheare]

I wish the New Yawk Slimes would figure it out that the difference between a Martyr and a Murderer is that Martyrs don't kill people for 'the faith'.

[Tymesup]

"The Orthodox and Coptic churches, which have lived among Muslims for centuries, know how to cultivate their own flocks without threatening the political territory of Muslim rulers and clerics. "

I have a Coptic friend from Egypt who says he wouldn't feel safe to go back there now.

[TheDon]

Careful Susan, your racism is showing!

[hope]

I was listening to a pastor talking about how the spread of Christianity has been prevalent in muslim countries especially because of NAFTA, and is was one reason that radicals attacked the WTC and why they want to hurt our prospects around the world. They wanted to strike out at our freedom to spread the gospel worldwide which has been made possible the past several years. Many radical muslims have been persecuting Christians in third world countries at a
rate that has surpassed what happened to the Jews under Hitler.

[F-117A]

EGYPTIAN POLICE 'CRUCIFY' AND RAPE CHRISTIANS