[CholeraJoe]

But homeschoolers exceed 'government standards'.

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

[LikeLight]

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

See, you've already bought into the big lie. Do you feed your children at home, or do you send them to a licensed nutritionist with a college degree? Have you ever met an Education major? Lord help us if you think a college degree and state license in education means anything.

[Oberon]

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

Hmmm. You're apparently one such teacher.

I suspected so based on your point of view, but your relative proficiency in critical thinking was a dead giveaway.

[AppyPappy]

Having a degree in education and a license is no indicator of a good teacher

[hopespringseternal]

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

A degree in education exists for those too ignorant or stupid for a real college degree who want to teach anyway.

[asformeandformyhouse]

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

No. What I'm telling you is that any parent can exceed the results obtained by your educated and certified teacher.

[TomSmedley]

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

Since when does "certification" equate to competence? The more "regulated" a commodity or service is, the more costly it is, and the less competetition exists to keep standards high.

Besides -- teachers come from the bottom half of the barrel, as measured by standardized tests. "Educators" come from the bottom half of that already reduced contingent.

[GovernmentShrinker]

You're nuts. Have you seen the results from the various states that implemented basic skills testing for teachers? A large percentage of those "college degreed" "licensed" teachers can't pass a basic skills test at the middle school level -- but the states decided to let them teach in the public schools anyway, on the grounds that they wouldn't have enough teachers otherwise!

[Lady Heron]

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

Please tell me why that matters, when tests consistantly show that home schooled kids test the same whether taught by a mother with a teaching certificate, any college degree or no college at all. Which is a heck of a lot better than those taught in the public education system by that teacher with a college degree in education!!!

[Born in a Rage]

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

Parents have taught their children since the beginning of time. Who teaches them to walk, to use a napkin, their ABC's, to drive a car, etc. and etc.....are you suggesting that parents need a license in order to have children and teach them things? Be careful what you wish for, it could come true.

[William Terrell]

So you're telling me that every homeschooler is a teacher with a college degree in education, licensed as such by the state in which the teaching takes place?

The parents can damn sure bring their kids up to their level of education. Up to and including high school is just fine. But up to high school is sufficient, too. Those who are not educated that far don't homeschool.

[glory]

No, and it's not necessary, and teachers hate that fact because "uneducated" homeschooling parents are producing superior outcomes to the pedigreed teachers. Surely, you are not suggesting that only those with a degree in education is suitable to teach? Such an assertion would fly in the face of TRADITIONAL education in the past where even farmers were capable of training their children how to read, write, and do basic math. Many important people came out of this cradle of real learning or do you think that's a myth? Have you never been tutored or trained by anyone who was not? I came out of ps and I have and many times, often times, they were the BEST teachers because they had a talent for teaching and were passionate about their specialty, not a desire to get a long vacation and union pay.

[jps098]

Most of the teachers I've met (in 40+ years), are C- students with degrees worth about as much as toilet paper. I will NEVER let my children be educated by the Communist Do-gooders that make up the teaching profession.

[Coleus]

A BA in Educations isn't worth the paper on which it is written, toilet paper is more valuable. There is a link here on the FR with Jay Leno on his Jay Walk where a teacher was interviewed and couldn't answer who was the General who led the states into victory.

A license is also a piece of paper, in many states it comes with your degree, in other states you have to teach for one year, it's not too special to have a license.

I know some so-called teachers who couldn't pass the National Teachers' Exam, a relatively very easy, general-knowledge test.

Most Nuns in Catholic Schools for many years taught WITHOUT college degrees. And, most teachers in "private" schools, including the very expensive boarding and college-prep schools around the USA DO NOT have teaching licenses. Many have advanced degrees in their respective discipline.