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Why Win If You're Going to Wimp Out? (Rush Limbaugh asks Republicans)
rushlimbaugh ^ | January 2, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/02/2003 5:26:45 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Why Win If You're Going to Wimp Out?

January 2, 2003

There is no reason for going soft on the Bush agenda, yet we're doing that more and more on everything from ending racial discrimination (aka: affirmative action) to tax fairness to Saddam. If we'd already dealt with him, we wouldn't be faced with this supposed dilemma over whether North Korea or Iraq should be our primary focus. It's not a dilemma, anyway. They're both going to be dealt with, so there's no reason to create these openings.

Reuters reports that President Bush plans to unveil an economic stimulus package expected to reach up to $300 billion, including "targeted" tax cuts, but only a 50% cut in taxes on corporate dividends to shareholders. The original proposal was to eliminate them, because it's immoral to tax earnings twice. It's double taxation. It's ridiculous. For crying out loud, why do you win the White House and Senate if you're only going to water down your agenda?

I love this administration when it comes to foreign policy and protecting us from terrorism, but I continue to scratch my head over some of this on the domestic side. If this Reuters story isn't just wishful thinking, the White House is going to shelve tax cuts because they fear the Democratic lie that it's "for the rich." They don't have the sand to go out there and cite the IRS figures we have on this site, proving that only the rich are paying income taxes.

Who are "the rich," anyway? It used to be millionaires. Today it's any family that earns $100,000 a year - and we have multimillionaires like Kerry and Edwards and Rockefeller and Kennedy saying, "I have my wealth, so I don't favor a wealth tax, but I'm going to tax income so you can't get wealthy."

The White House is also said to be staying out of the Supreme Court case of a woman kept out of the University of Michigan because of her skin color: white. Admission based on race is wrong, but the administration fears taking the woman's side because it would damage White House counsel Alberto Gonzales' Supreme Court confirmation.

They're also ready to extend unemployment insurance yet again – which means paying people not to work by taking the money from those of us who are working. Folks, the Democrats are going to criticize us no matter what we do. It's absurd to back down on our agenda. As Senator Mitch McConnell told me in our upcoming Limbaugh Letter interview, the Senate only has six months to get things done. The Democrats want to bottle things up so they can have issues. Why help them out?


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1 posted on 01/02/2003 5:26:46 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
"Reuters reports that President Bush plans to unveil an economic stimulus package expected to reach up to $300 billion, including "targeted" tax cuts, but only a 50% cut in taxes on corporate dividends to shareholders. "

You mean the President has finally figured out that there are problems in the economy?

Now if knocking out Saddam would end 'the war on terrorism' and end the need for the 'Department of Home Defense' that would be a crowd pleaser and be a boost to the economy. However I suspect that ending Saddam will not end the 'war on terrorism' hence, then ending Saddam is some kind of a fakeroo and the economy is more likely to get worse than better.

2 posted on 01/02/2003 5:39:53 PM PST by ex-snook
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To: ex-snook
Look past the media's attempt to ruin the economic recovery with every bit of gloom they can manipulate, the economy is getting better, it has been for awhile. If not for what the Bush Administration has done already the the Clinton recession would have been much worse. Do you really think Bush did not know the economy existed?
3 posted on 01/02/2003 5:47:51 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: TLBSHOW

Dont go wobbly on me now, George!

- Margaret Thatcher to G HW Bush in 1990. ... but apt right now.
4 posted on 01/02/2003 5:50:03 PM PST by WOSG
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To: HankReardon
"If not for what the Bush Administration has done already "

And that is ????

5 posted on 01/02/2003 5:53:22 PM PST by ex-snook
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To: ex-snook
"You mean the President has finally figured out that there are problems in the economy? "

You believe a tax cut will hurt the economy? U need a lesson in factually presented ECON100, not the dim "lies-a'plenty" version.

6 posted on 01/02/2003 5:54:22 PM PST by lawdude
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To: TLBSHOW
I love Rush and W but hope that Rush holds W's feet to the fire.
7 posted on 01/02/2003 5:57:08 PM PST by blackbart1
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To: lawdude
"You believe a tax cut will hurt the economy? "

A tax cut would be great for the economy if it included social security, sales and property taxes coupled with a decrease in the size of government. Passing government costs unto the next generation and paying interest on borrowings is not what I hope you have in mind. There is a war to be paid for. Let's all sacrifice.

8 posted on 01/02/2003 6:01:59 PM PST by ex-snook
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To: blackbart1
Hardball tonight

The conservative agenda

First thing up is banning PB Abortion with John Fund
9 posted on 01/02/2003 6:07:34 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: ex-snook
Dont be crazy...The cost of the war is peanuts compared to the legions of parasites in this society who suck us dry..

Slash government in Half across the board...get the Feds out of the States business...Slash the State Govmints too...

This economy would go to the moon, and we could finance Dozens of Wars...at a profit...

Welfar is BS...if you got two hands and two feet that work, get a damn job...

10 posted on 01/02/2003 6:07:56 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: TLBSHOW
The Bush administration has misinterpreted the axiom, "That government is best which governs least," to mean, "that government is best which abdicates, appeases, and avoids confrontation. As RL says, the Democrats are going to criticize whatever you do. If you're going to be hung anyway, might as well be hung for doing what you believe and what you were elected to do.
11 posted on 01/02/2003 6:09:46 PM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Truth!
Go for all of it and no giving in!
12 posted on 01/02/2003 6:13:16 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: ex-snook
A tax cut would be great for the economy if

Wrongo. A tax cut WILL be great for the economy PERIOD.

Oh, and you outed yourself. Your bogus and self-satisfied call to "sacrifice" is one hundred percent liberal handbook.

13 posted on 01/02/2003 6:13:20 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: antaresequity
"...if you got two hands and two feet that work, get a damn job... "

Well you got a point. Too bad McDonalds is laying off. Maybe move to where the jobs are - China?

14 posted on 01/02/2003 6:13:37 PM PST by ex-snook
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To: antaresequity
"The cost of the war is peanuts compared to the legions of parasites in this society who suck us dry..."

Couldn't have said it better myself.

15 posted on 01/02/2003 6:14:20 PM PST by Paulie
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To: M. Thatcher
What worries me more about that is not what the Democrats are saying, but what it's causing amongst the Republican and conservative ranks.

The Lott situation was, and may or may not still be, on the brink of causing a deep fissure in conservative circles. A whole lot of people on our side saw self-serving grandstanding by certain elements of the conservative movement. The notion that it was never about Lott, but rather about tarring every Republican and conservative as a Ku Klux Klansman in the Robert Byrd mold, was not recognized immediately by as many people as it should have been.

Rush Limbaugh

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/815914/posts

16 posted on 01/02/2003 6:15:00 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Yeah, I know. I was there.
17 posted on 01/02/2003 6:16:13 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher
I know! Weren't we all!


Hardball tonight looks like a keeper!

Called The Conservative agenda!
18 posted on 01/02/2003 6:17:41 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: ex-snook
You need to ask what Bush had done to help the economic recovery? Where have you been? The first thing is the mere fact that the people know that there's a man in the Oval Office who cares more about the interest of this nation than his own personal gain is a great boost to the economy! And providing the country with national security which was previously decimated by the previous administration has helped the economy. Take a history lesson from the 80's, it's time to excellerate the tax cuts. It's time to do away with a large part of business and corporate tax, we know this cost is just passed along to the consumer in higher prices for goods and services and reflected in wages paid.
19 posted on 01/02/2003 6:19:12 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: sheltonmac
bttt
20 posted on 01/02/2003 6:19:57 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
I like Rush and listen to him all the time.....but the fact is Bush far more politically tactful than Rush will ever be.
Rush could never become President. But I do appreciate most of his criticism and commentary on the Bush agenda.
21 posted on 01/02/2003 6:23:14 PM PST by Jorge
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To: ex-snook
McDonalds is laying off because its a poorly run corporation, that serves crappy food with crappy service to public that no longer wants to pay for their trash...

McDonalds is not a barometer of employement opportunity...

The number of people looking for food has increased every year in America...If McDonalds can't fill their need...good riddance...Thats capitilism in action bub...

I got another tip for ya...Nobody deserves a job...nobody deserves to keep their job...the only thing anyone can hope for is the opportunity to work...and they better damn show up ready to make their boss a profit...or both they and their boss are history...its rough and unfriendly...just the way I like it...

All Attempts at Homogeneity in society fail...put on your flak jacket and deal with it...

22 posted on 01/02/2003 6:23:22 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: ex-snook
The cost of not confronting the Germans when they marched into the Rhineland was 50 million lives. The cost of the war with Iraq will be well worth the gain to come from defeating the Saddam Huisein regime.
23 posted on 01/02/2003 6:24:45 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: antaresequity
Translation: Social Justice is a Myth...take another bong hit
24 posted on 01/02/2003 6:25:05 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: TLBSHOW
It's absurd to back down on our agenda.

Tax cuts will save this laggard economy. Bush and the Pubbies earned an historic election, which you predicted, now they better act like they're in charge.

25 posted on 01/02/2003 6:25:47 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Jorge
Its all about keeping Bushes feet to the conservative fire. We won it all in November and there is NO REASON to give into the democrat rats at all on anything!
26 posted on 01/02/2003 6:26:17 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
I may be wrong, but at least on the domestic front, this is government by timidity. Come to think of it, that's pretty much the story of the Republicans. Newt was the glaring exception that proves the rule.
27 posted on 01/02/2003 6:27:01 PM PST by gcruse
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To: TLBSHOW
You got that right! He should learn the lesson his father learned. The Democrats pressured him into raising taxes and then turned around and used it against him during the campaign.
28 posted on 01/02/2003 6:29:08 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: M. Thatcher
The Lott situation was, and may or may not still be, on the brink of causing a deep fissure in conservative circles. A whole lot of people on our side saw self-serving grandstanding by certain elements of the conservative movement.

Rush Limbaugh

Make that five, M. There are at least five people on this forum who are concerned about the Lott situation.

I'll be on Rush's side, any day.

29 posted on 01/02/2003 6:33:45 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Fred Mertz
I remember it well in fact I was busy during those finale weeks telling a certain group of 3rd party voters not to throw away their votes and how we were going to win big on election day! LOL

That is part of why this is so personal to me. If Bush throws it all to the rats I did all that work for nothing.

I hate wasting my time and working for nothing. I hate that with a passion! Its all or nothing and being the winner is the end goal! With truth and results!

30 posted on 01/02/2003 6:35:06 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: ex-snook
I'm all for tax cuts in EVERY area. For the life of me though, I think this administration and its advisors took a STUPID PILL since they've not jumped all over taxing social security and haven't vowed to repeal this grossly unfair tax!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about a missed opportunity... I'm just flat out dumb-founded they've totally missed this boat and if nothing else, realized the political windfall such a move would get the Bush administration Tsk, tsk...
31 posted on 01/02/2003 6:36:21 PM PST by demkicker
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To: Jorge
I like Rush and listen to him all the time.....but the fact is Bush far more politically tactful than Rush will ever be. Rush could never become President. But I do appreciate most of his criticism and commentary on the Bush agenda.

Seems to me that the last time Rush was heavily into criticizing GW (prior to the Nov election), he ended up making a public apology after the election. Basically saying he was wrong and what GW was doing and planning had eluded him.

It's been said over and over, but you really shouldn't "misunderestimate" GW until the whole picture plays out.

32 posted on 01/02/2003 6:37:31 PM PST by dawn53
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To: cynicom
ping
33 posted on 01/02/2003 6:37:39 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Maybe his circle of influence is urging him to Govern like a centrist? Don't do anything to radical George, we wouldn't want to lose the Reagan Democrats and soccer moms in 2004.

34 posted on 01/02/2003 6:39:15 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: dawn53
What he said was he saw that it was all about winning in November the senate and the house. Now Bush has no excuss what so ever to do whats right and not give the rats anything but a swift kick back to the stone age!
35 posted on 01/02/2003 6:46:26 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: antaresequity
This deserves to be repeated.

Slash government in Half across the board...get the Feds out of the States business...Slash the State Govmints too...

This economy would go to the moon, and we could finance Dozens of Wars...at a profit...

Welfar is BS...if you got two hands and two feet that work, get a damn job...

36 posted on 01/02/2003 6:47:00 PM PST by thepitts
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To: Stew Padasso
If President Bush caves and gives the rats anything he will have a hard battle to win in 2004~

37 posted on 01/02/2003 6:48:57 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: demkicker
I'm self-employed. As both my employer and my employee I pay both halves of my social security tax. This is actually a premium payment into the governments mandatory retirement program. You do not cut the premium payment on someone simply because they pay no other "tax" that can be cut. I don't get it? the people that pay no federal tax are wanting a tax cut? Who's taking the dummy pills? Isn't true the Social Security system is in peril? Cutting the premiums can only imperil it further. Of course the Dems want SS to fail so the Gov. can then step in and save the people. The ol' create a crisis then be the savior ploy.
38 posted on 01/02/2003 6:51:36 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: TLBSHOW
I'm not so sure. Conservatives will once again have the choice of two evils. And they'll cave to keep a democrat out of office.

I would like to see someone step up in the RP and challenge Bush, but that is a pipedream.
39 posted on 01/02/2003 6:53:12 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: dawn53
"misunderestimate", I love it!! Yes, it's strategery!!
40 posted on 01/02/2003 6:54:04 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: Stew Padasso
Who? Mitch McConnell?
41 posted on 01/02/2003 6:56:55 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
Anyone who can do a better job of framing the argument for small government and rally people to the cause. Right now its half assed and lip service.
42 posted on 01/02/2003 6:58:24 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Stew Padasso
Right now there is no reason to go after Bush except to keep him on the right side! He has it all there is no excuss now about putting forth the conservative agenda which voters voted for in November! If he caves and goes left well then Bush is open season for replacement!
43 posted on 01/02/2003 6:59:01 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: HankReardon
The Democrats pressured him into raising taxes...

The way I've heard it was even worse; The Congressional Democrats promised to cut spending in return for Bush 41's support in raising taxes, promply broke their promise and increased spending, then used the ensuing deficit as a campaign issue against Bush.

44 posted on 01/02/2003 7:00:02 PM PST by jonathonandjennifer
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To: Stew Padasso
Yes, I agree, it's 180 degrees from where we were. Who do you like? J. C. Watts?
45 posted on 01/02/2003 7:02:00 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: dawn53
" Seems to me that the last time Rush was heavily into criticizing GW (prior to the Nov election), he ended up making a public apology after the election. Basically saying he was wrong and what GW was doing and planning had eluded him."

I hope Rush isn't starting the Bush bashing again.He apparently partially read the Reuters story. It said that Bush has been tight lipped on his economic plan and no one knows what he is going to do,until he makes his address on Tuesday.Reuters quotes aides who say they think Bush will do this or he might do that or he might not do this-but,until Bush gives his speech,no one will know for sure what to expect. I wish Rush would wait for the actual facts and not jump to conclusions,based on media reports and speculation.
46 posted on 01/02/2003 7:02:01 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: HankReardon
http://mcconnell.senate.gov/

His landslide victory on November 5, 1996, made Mitch McConnell the only Republican in Kentucky history to be elected to three full terms in the United States Senate. In fact, until Jim Bunning's election to the Senate in 1998, McConnell, Kentucky's senior senator, had been the only Kentucky Republican to win a statewide race since 1967.

Named by several national publications, including Congressional Quarterly and George magazine, as one of Washington's most powerful people, McConnell currently serves as Ranking Member of the Senate Rules Committee, which has jurisdiction over federal election law and the administration of the Senate.

McConnell also held the honor of being named the Chairman of the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies, which directed the planning and production of President George W. Bush's Inauguration as the 43rd President of the United States. As Chairman, McConnell served as emcee of the 2001 Inauguration Ceremony and escorted President Bush throughout the day's festivities.

McConnell also serves as Ranking Member of the Foreign Operations Appropriations Subcommittee, a key foreign policy committee, and a senior member of the Agriculture and Appropriations Committees, and as a member of the Judiciary Committee. Serving on these committees has allowed McConnell to become involved in a broad array of issues critical to Kentucky and the nation. Consequently, McConnell is a familiar face on network and cable television public affairs programs. He is also a frequent contributor of opinion pieces to national newspapers, including The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal. For the second year in a row, McConnell was a top national draw on Sunday news shows, appearing on more Sunday programs than nearly every other member of Congress. McConnell was a regular on NBC's Meet the Press, FOX News Sunday, ABC's This Week, CNN's Late Edition and CBS's Face the Nation.

Washington news bookers and producers also sought McConnell out for appearances on several cable political shows. McConnell appeared on nearly 50 cable news programs during 2000, including repeat performances on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, CNN's Crossfire and Inside Politics, and FOX's Special Report and The Beltway Boys. McConnell offered regular comment on a wide range of issues including the 2000 elections, tax relief, Social Security reform and foreign affairs.

From January 1997 - January 2001, McConnell served as Chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC). As Chairman, McConnell was responsible for developing and supporting the campaigns of Republican Senate candidates. He also helped Republicans maintain control of the Senate for four Congresses in a row, a feat which has not been accomplished since the 1920's.

Born on February 20, 1942, and raised in South Louisville, McConnell's leadership ability was recognized early on as student body president in high school; College of Arts and Sciences student body president at the University of Louisville (where he received a B.A. with honors); and at the University of Kentucky's College of Law where he was elected president of the Student Bar Association. McConnell's political ascension continued as an intern with Senator John Sherman Cooper, chief legislative assistant to Senator Marlow Cook, and deputy assistant attorney general under President Gerald R. Ford. Before being elected to the United States Senate, McConnell served as County Judge-Executive in Jefferson County, Kentucky from 1978 to 1984.

Senator McConnell is married to Secretary of Labor Elaine L. Chao. Previously, Secretary Chao served as president of the United Way of America and director of the Peace Corps. He is the father of three daughters: Elly, Claire, and Porter.



47 posted on 01/02/2003 7:02:14 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
"Right now there is no reason to go after Bush"

I agree. What is bothersome is the "hold the feet to the fire" argument has somewhat been doused.
48 posted on 01/02/2003 7:03:23 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: jonathonandjennifer
When will they learn? You do not make deals with the enemy, be they North Korea, Iraq or the socialist, anti-capitalistic democrats and expect them to keep the deal.
49 posted on 01/02/2003 7:05:02 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
From what I have seen of JC Watts is positive, however I'm not convinced until I see a voting record and more research on his record/actions and how he frames his arguments.
50 posted on 01/02/2003 7:06:45 PM PST by Stew Padasso
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