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TO ALL OF OUR ORTHODOX FRIENDS: A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS
http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:WIk8fnsEbWkC:www.collegebaptist.org/sermon/12.23.01.html ^ | Matthew 2:1-12.

Posted on 01/05/2003 8:28:09 AM PST by Liz

After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him. When he had called together all the people's chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Christ was to be born. "In Bethlehem in Judea," they replied, "for this is what the prophet has written: "'But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.'"

Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him."

After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. When they saw the star, they were overjoyed.

On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him.

Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold and of incense and of myrrh.

And having been warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, they returned to their country by another route.

Matthew 2:1-12.


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Merry Christmas.
1 posted on 01/05/2003 8:28:09 AM PST by Liz
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To: MarMema
Merry Christmas :))
2 posted on 01/05/2003 8:44:31 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: Liz
Sigh. Only the Orthodox churches that follow the old calendar celebrate Christmas now. The rest of us celebrate it on Dec. 25 like everyone else. And of course we have to explain that to everyone non-Orthodox every January 6.
3 posted on 01/05/2003 8:49:20 AM PST by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss
Not in Russia; they're celebrating the old style Orthodox calendar which makes Christmas on 7 January.
4 posted on 01/05/2003 9:07:54 AM PST by laconic
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To: Liz
Sretan bozic i nova godina!
5 posted on 01/05/2003 9:55:10 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Liz; MarMema; don-o; All
A very Blessed Holy Christmas Day to all of the EO among us..
6 posted on 01/05/2003 10:12:49 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Lovely Nativity scene.
7 posted on 01/05/2003 12:38:39 PM PST by Liz
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To: mountaineer
ZhelAyu tebe schaslIvovo NOvovo gOda!
8 posted on 01/05/2003 12:41:59 PM PST by Liz
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To: laconic; Doug Loss
Russian Christians in America also celebrate in January.
9 posted on 01/05/2003 12:43:13 PM PST by Liz
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To: RnMomof7
merry christmas
10 posted on 01/05/2003 1:03:50 PM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Doug Loss
When I was very young (I won't say what era), we would celebrate on the 25th and 6th though my mother had good reasons to explain why we only got a small token gift on "Little Christmas".

Nowadays, like all EO except my Russian brothers (and don't forget the Armeniens) we celebrate Christmas only on the 25th like everybody else. (Today is Holy Water day).
11 posted on 01/05/2003 2:28:04 PM PST by nevergiveup
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To: Liz
Nice post.
12 posted on 01/05/2003 5:13:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Liz; All
TO ALL OF OUR ORTHODOX FRIENDS: A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS

Yes,.....!!!

A VERY Merry and Blessed Christmas!

:-)

13 posted on 01/05/2003 7:47:44 PM PST by maestro
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To: Liz
Happy Christmas! May God's Blessings be upon all "Old Calendar" Orthodox Christians!
14 posted on 01/05/2003 8:50:16 PM PST by MikalM
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To: Howlin
So glad you liked the post.
15 posted on 01/05/2003 9:47:58 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Merry Christmas!!!!
16 posted on 01/05/2003 10:16:14 PM PST by Bradís Gramma
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To: RnMomof7; Liz
Where's Joseph?
17 posted on 01/05/2003 10:17:14 PM PST by KMJames
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To: KMJames; RnMomof7
The graphic posted looks like it might be an old woodcut. Perhaps it was one in a series?
18 posted on 01/05/2003 10:44:55 PM PST by Liz
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To: Brad's Gramma
Same to you.
19 posted on 01/05/2003 10:45:16 PM PST by Liz
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To: MikalM
A sacred Christmas to you.
20 posted on 01/05/2003 10:45:58 PM PST by Liz
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To: RnMomof7
Thank you mom.
21 posted on 01/06/2003 1:48:59 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Liz
Thank you for this post!! May God bless you.
22 posted on 01/06/2003 1:49:40 AM PST by MarMema
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To: a_Turk
Thank you so much. Will look forward to meeting you someday...
23 posted on 01/06/2003 1:50:18 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Liz
Merry Christmas indeed
24 posted on 01/06/2003 2:04:45 AM PST by Michael2001
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To: Liz
Thanks!
25 posted on 01/06/2003 2:08:24 AM PST by drew
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To: MikalM; xzins; fortheDeclaration; Alamo-Girl; Commander8
Ping..............................BTTT MikalM,...Your#14).....Yes!

Happy Christmas! May God's Blessings be upon all "Old Calendar" Orthodox Christians!

Amen,........More Grace and Mercy,.........In Jesus' Precious Name, Amen!

(I loved "grandma's" Christmas noodle soup.....)

26 posted on 01/06/2003 4:37:05 AM PST by maestro
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To: drew
Hope you had a Merry Christmas.
27 posted on 01/06/2003 5:30:43 AM PST by Liz
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To: MarMema
So glad you liked the post.
28 posted on 01/06/2003 5:31:27 AM PST by Liz
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To: KMJames
Many "nativities" show mother and child.. nothing unusual about that ..
29 posted on 01/06/2003 6:41:28 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Liz
Merry Christmas to All
30 posted on 01/06/2003 6:43:01 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: maestro
Merry Christmas indeed!
31 posted on 01/06/2003 7:48:47 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Fiddlstix
Hope you had a Merry Christmas and here's hoping for a healthful New Year for all.
32 posted on 01/06/2003 8:44:25 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Merry Christmas to all. My parents were Ukrainian Catholics which used the Byzantine rite. Before our church changed to the new calendar, our Christmas was January 7. Byzantine Catholics are in full communion with Rome as are Roman Catholics who use the Roman rite. Eastern Orthodox churches also use the Byzantine rite, but they broke with Rome many years ago.
33 posted on 01/06/2003 8:53:22 AM PST by TracyPA
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To: TracyPA
The Byzantine rites are so very beautiful - especially weddings.
34 posted on 01/06/2003 9:02:07 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
The Blessings of Christ be upon you this Christmas Season. Merry Christmas.
35 posted on 01/06/2003 9:08:43 AM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat
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To: MarMema; Liz


Yiorgos Aristotelis Sakellariou, left, partially obscured, a 21-year old Greek Orthodox Christian, holds up the wooden cross with his friends after retrieving it from the waters of the Golden Horn during the Orthodox Epiphany ceremony in Istanbul, Turkey, Monday, Jan. 6, 2003. Yiorgos Aristotelis, a student from the Greek island of Zakynthos, braved freezing winter weather to dive into Istanbul's Bosporus and retrieve a wooden cross in a ceremony commemorating the baptism of Jesus Christ. (AP Photo/ Osman Orsal)
36 posted on 01/06/2003 9:25:09 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Before 9/11, parishioners from St. Nicholas church near the WTC would jump into the Hudson each Jan 6 to retrieve the cross. I wonder if the ceremony is still being held even though the church was destroyed.
37 posted on 01/06/2003 9:40:09 AM PST by nycgal
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To: Liz
Thanks and a Merry Christmas to you.
38 posted on 01/06/2003 9:41:36 AM PST by nycgal
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To: NWU Army ROTC
Thank you.
39 posted on 01/06/2003 9:52:04 AM PST by Liz
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To: nycgal
Sincerest wishes for a proserous and healthy New Year.
40 posted on 01/06/2003 9:53:03 AM PST by Liz
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To: nycgal
Should rebuild asap..
41 posted on 01/06/2003 9:56:11 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Thanks for the post. All of the Byzantine rites are quite meaningful as is this celebration of Christ's baptism.
42 posted on 01/06/2003 9:56:28 AM PST by Liz
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To: a_Turk

Young Bulgarians dive to retrieve a crucifix cast by priest into the icy water of a lake in an old ritual marking the feast of Epiphany Monday, Jan. 6, 2003 in Sofia, Bulgaria. By tradition, a crucifix is cast into the waters of a lake or river and it is believed that the person who retrieves it will be freed from evil spirits that might have troubled him. (AP Photo/Dimitar Deinov)

43 posted on 01/06/2003 10:47:10 AM PST by tarator
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To: a_Turk
Wow. And I was hesitant to approach the priest after services yesterday when I saw he had just dipped his brush into the water. I did get wet but these EO's put me to shame.

Thank you, Turk! What a delightful thing - to see your fellow EO's braving the cold to retrieve a cross. I am most grateful to you!

44 posted on 01/06/2003 1:02:49 PM PST by MarMema
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To: FormerLib; katnip
Not too late to suggest an Orthodox ping from you?
This is becoming such a nice thread....
45 posted on 01/06/2003 1:06:11 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Liz
I'm planning on attending an orthodox service....and I need to know what to expect and what to avoid. Any advice would be appreciated.
46 posted on 01/06/2003 1:06:37 PM PST by quebecois
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To: Liz; *balkans; Destro; vooch; Kate22
Do they know it's Christmastime in the Balkans?
47 posted on 01/06/2003 1:24:43 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: quebecois
Well, there's really nothing to avoid, but prepare yourself for a lengthy service, with lots of standing. Depending upon the type of service (Russian, Greek, Serbian, etc.) there will be some ritual that will seem incomprehensible, as will some of the language. Dress nice, Orthodox Christians dress up for church, especially on Christmas. Also, I know it sounds weird, but a lot of incense is used and I know that some people find the smell of incense stifling. Since the service is long (2 hours) and the church will be packed, if you have an aversion to incense or have any claustrophobia issues, I suggest you take a break and get some air. Sit (likely stand) at the back of the church if you feel you may need to duck out. Liturgical books are always supplied at Orthodox churches, so you can follow along with the service. The service is beautiful, with a choir singing responses to the clergy, and no musical instruments are used. It really gives you a sense of mystery and otherworldliness. A lot of the action takes place behind closed doors, where the altar is located (unlike in Catholic churches where it is out in the open). This is due to Orthodox belief that lay people are not priveleged to see the great mysteries of God, especially the turning of the communion wine and bread into the flesh and blood of Christ. At the end of the service, the congregation goes to the front of the church to kiss an icon of Christ and the patron saint of the church, and a cross that the priest holds. If you'd rather not participate, just go out the back. If you want to, just do what the others do. Also, the congregation usually gathers at the priest's house after the service. If you feel comfortable enough, by all means go. You'll be more than welcome and it would be a good opportunity to familiarize yourself with the faith. Priests are a wealth of information about church history and Christianity in general. Hope this helps, and I hope you find the service interesting and fulfilling.
48 posted on 01/06/2003 3:18:31 PM PST by drew
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To: crazykatz; don-o; JosephW; lambo; MarMema; MoJoWork_n; newberger; Petronski; The_Reader_David; ...
By request, an Orthodox ping.
49 posted on 01/06/2003 3:35:31 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: quebecois
Here is the definitive article on what to expect at an Orthodox service.
50 posted on 01/06/2003 3:38:53 PM PST by FormerLib
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