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Newspaper Publishes Names and Addresses of CCW Holders
Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star ^

Posted on 01/05/2003 6:38:23 PM PST by Mortimer Snavely

Phil Van Cleave, head honcho of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc., just e-mailed this:

"The Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star is publishing a list of area residents who have concealed handgun permits.

Great idea Free Lance - let's tell all the criminals which houses to burgle in order to get some guns! Great service to the community.

Maybe the editor and senior people at the Free Lance should publish their personal home addresses so that they, too, can spend quality time with some of those cuddly little felons.

Here is the link:

Weapons Permits

If you find publishing CHP holder's names and addresses to be a pretty stupid idea and to be endangering of the citizens of Virginia, let them know about it. Just because they have the right to publish public information does not necessarily make it the smart or correct thing to do:

newsroom@fredericksburg.com "


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; privacylist
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To: sam_paine
"Just like I don't pay dues to the NRA because I don't think I should have to join a listing of a group to defend my natural rights.

"

Indeed! And the NRA sells its subscription lists to anyone with the bucks to pay for it. I suspect the Treasury Dept. would be one of the buyers.
81 posted on 01/06/2003 8:55:13 AM PST by MineralMan
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To: Shooter 2.5
The CCW issue has destroyed HCI's arguments on handguns

A point frequently ignored by natural rights advocates...

CCW licensing has effectively - and precisely - destroyed the argument that guns in the hands of lawful citizens are a problem. It's a monumental step in the right direction.

82 posted on 01/06/2003 9:05:09 AM PST by xsrdx
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To: friendly
Can anyone tell me the politics of this newspaper?

Yep.

Do I need to ask?

Nope. The writers and editors are shallow-thinking liberal lightweights.

83 posted on 01/06/2003 9:07:04 AM PST by Steve0113
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To: MineralMan
And the NRA sells its subscription lists to anyone with the bucks to pay for it.

Prove it. Show me the link where the NRA sells any lists.

84 posted on 01/06/2003 9:08:59 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: sam_paine
Just like I don't pay dues to the NRA

You can send an anonymous donation. If you don't support the NRA, or at least some organized pro-RKBA effort, don't complain when "only outlaws" have guns.

85 posted on 01/06/2003 9:09:14 AM PST by xsrdx
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To: Timesink
(how big is Fredricksburg?)

Including the immediately surrounding areas, there are about 250,000 people.

86 posted on 01/06/2003 9:10:52 AM PST by Steve0113
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To: Shooter 2.5
Call 'em up. Ask how much their mailing list costs per 1000 names. Tell 'em you're a seller of accessories for shooters. They'll be happy to sell you the lists. Are you kidding? Do you think the NRA has your best interests at heart? Really? Please.
87 posted on 01/06/2003 9:16:33 AM PST by MineralMan
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Has any local person who knows who they are run the names of local news casters, newspaper types, liberal politicians, anti-gun activists, etc., against this database?
88 posted on 01/06/2003 9:16:55 AM PST by Liberty Ship
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To: friendly
BTW, around here the paper is known as the Free-Slant Star.
89 posted on 01/06/2003 9:19:01 AM PST by Steve0113
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To: sam_paine
So I painted mine with tar when I went.

Great idea!

90 posted on 01/06/2003 9:19:34 AM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Mulder
They did the same thing in Nashville, Tennessee in the early 80's, before Tennessee even had a CCW system. Back then the Sheriff issued permits to the usual suspects (donors, politicians, bussinessmen) so the Nashville Tennessean published their names and addresses. It caused quite an uproar.
91 posted on 01/06/2003 9:25:40 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Liberty Ship
I really couldn't tell you about that.
92 posted on 01/06/2003 9:27:06 AM PST by Mortimer Snavely
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To: archy
Calling or emailing will probably have an opposite effect, to convince this scum that they're doing the "right thing", by pissing off "gun nuts". Most newspaper publishers are Communist scum who think that the Constitution only has one Amendment, the First.
93 posted on 01/06/2003 9:29:24 AM PST by hunter112
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To: MineralMan
Call 'em up. Ask how much their mailing list costs per 1000 names. Tell 'em you're a seller of accessories for shooters. They'll be happy to sell you the lists. Are you kidding? Do you think the NRA has your best interests at heart? Really? Please.

I don't think you are correct. When I was a committee man for my borough, I tried to get a list of local NRA members (which I am one), and they said their privacy policy forbids it.

94 posted on 01/06/2003 9:32:47 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Well, I am sort of curious how many of the folks on here who are complaining about the paper publishing the names of these folks are the same people who think that child molestors who have been released from prison should have all of their personal and private information published on the Internet. Or how often I see people on here posting the home addresses and telephone numbers of judges who rule in ways that you don't like.

Funny how when the shoe is on the other foot, you don't like it to well. Huh.
95 posted on 01/06/2003 9:35:17 AM PST by Viva Le Dissention
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To: Viva Le Dissention
too well, rather.

Oops.
96 posted on 01/06/2003 9:36:03 AM PST by Viva Le Dissention
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To: MineralMan
I told you to prove it. There was even a lawsuit where the NRA defended their privacy.

You made the accusation so it's up to you to prove you're not lying.
97 posted on 01/06/2003 9:38:23 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: xsrdx; MineralMan
I have actually sent the NRA and the Pubbies cash in envelopes. But I will not put my name on it.

However, I do not agree that there is any moral elevation that the NRA inherently lends to RKBA, any more than the Pubs inherently elevate conservativism. They may help, indeed they may do it harm (when NRA boardmember's relative got busted for armed assault giving leftists crystalized demonization fodder, for example), but being on their membership list is not a Patriotism Checklist Item for me.

98 posted on 01/06/2003 9:47:46 AM PST by sam_paine
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To: Hacksaw
When we were fighting the Oak Park, Illinois gun ban, we tried to get a list of the NRA members even though we were all members. We also were refused.

Still waiting for that "proof".
99 posted on 01/06/2003 10:36:12 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
"I told you to prove it. There was even a lawsuit where the NRA defended their privacy.

You made the accusation so it's up to you to prove you're not lying. "

You are correct. I was wrong. While the NRA _used_ to sell its membership lists, they no longer do.
100 posted on 01/06/2003 11:33:16 AM PST by MineralMan
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