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Cop took just 3 seconds to shoot dog
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, January 9, 2003

Posted on 01/08/2003 11:35:54 PM PST by JohnHuang2

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Thursday, January 9, 2003

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1 posted on 01/08/2003 11:35:54 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
"I yelled at the dog to get back, but it attempted to circle me to attack, so I felt that I had no option but to protect myself," the officer wrote in a police report.

A liar and a dog killer. May he rot in hell.

2 posted on 01/08/2003 11:42:53 PM PST by ambrose
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To: JohnHuang2
The original WorldNetDaily story give the very sad details of how the family was brutilized by the police. The children and the remaining dog were traumatized for days.
4 posted on 01/08/2003 11:58:39 PM PST by Consort
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To: JohnHuang2
Watch the video here.
5 posted on 01/09/2003 12:02:04 AM PST by Ouachita (dog killin' sob's)
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To: Ouachita
Reminds me of the killing of Bob Lee Swagger's dog, Ouachita.
6 posted on 01/09/2003 12:06:47 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Dimensio
Couldn't agree more ...Trigger happy dumbos that give other good cops a bad name ... I've got three Boston Terriers here with me in Sushiland , and if this had happened to one of them we'd be devestated and very , very angry .
7 posted on 01/09/2003 12:06:56 AM PST by sushiman
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Yep, they better not mess with Bob "The
Nailer" Swagger.
8 posted on 01/09/2003 12:13:24 AM PST by Consort
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
He was one of the best Marine Snipers in Vietnam. He can hit you from three-quarters of a mile away before you even hear the shot. Some call him the most dangerous man alive. Now if he can just stay alive...
9 posted on 01/09/2003 12:33:23 AM PST by Ouachita
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To: ambrose
Oh, common!

Have you ever gone through one of those shooting trials where you have about 2 seconds to react before someone bad blows you away or you shoot a pregnant woman by mistake?

If you had a dog run in front of you, would you swerve into a child into order to avoid hitting the dog?

Whatever, the possible danger to the cop was real. Maybe you haven't seen dog bites that ripped off the lower lip of a child or large gapes in someone's arm, but I have.

Drug dealers often train their dogs to attack and kill, so there was no way for the cop to know what he was facing. Hindsight is wonderful. But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

10 posted on 01/09/2003 12:37:07 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: JohnHuang2; SLB; harpseal; razorback-bert; Travis McGee; glock rocks
These guys have no business in the business they are in.....this is the kind of stupid sh*t that that deserves a lawsuit........

BTW did anyone else hear the 911 call where a lady states the car was doing 110 mph ?? And money was being thrown out of the car ??? When the man just left his wallet on top of the car. And at 110 if she saw it that fast.....the wallet would have flown off the roof well before that speed was reached....

Add her lying ass to the lawsuit and file criminal charges for her false contribution to this fiasco.

11 posted on 01/09/2003 12:39:18 AM PST by Squantos (Stay Safe !)
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To: JohnHuang2
I want to say up front that I don't condone what that patrolman did in shooting that dog but I can understand why it was done. Arresting police cannot predict a dog's behavior and will not take a chance of being attacked. I believe this is actually part of their professional training.

The only time I was attacked and bit by a dog it was an animal which knew me well. He was the next-door neighbor's dog, an animal which I had always been kind towards as I like animals, and he visited my family, as we had a dog he played with frequently.

It happened in the very early morning, he was out roaming with a couple of other dogs and I was jogging. He was a dog-coyote hybrid, and later as he grew older increasingly difficult to predict in behavoir.

But at the time of the attack I believe he behaved from instinct, as he approached from behind, absolutely silent, and bit me in the back of the lower leg (calf). My response probably startled him for I turned on him, and screaming at the top of my lungs, chased him all the way home.

12 posted on 01/09/2003 12:48:15 AM PST by goody2shooz
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To: goody2shooz
That cop was an IDIOT. Not one of those officers used proper judgement and from the sound of their voices, I have to wonder how hard it was for them to even get out of high school.

Remind me to bypass good 'ol Tenn when I travel. And I live in Texas.
14 posted on 01/09/2003 1:28:45 AM PST by txzman
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To: txzman
Man, that video is chilling. Brings back images of the SS. Shouldn't THIS be considered terrorism?


15 posted on 01/09/2003 1:45:14 AM PST by Outraged At FLA
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To: Ouachita; Jimer
..he was one of the best Marine Snipers in Vietnam. He can hit you from three-quarters of a mile away before you even hear the shot. Some call him the most dangerous man alive...

Why oh why won't Mel Gibson make the movie, mate?

16 posted on 01/09/2003 1:59:12 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Swordmaker
There is no way in hell that that dog was threatening the officer, as you'll hopefully see when you watch the video.
17 posted on 01/09/2003 1:59:39 AM PST by gd124
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To: patriciaruth
...but if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty...

'Comforted the cop'???

Patricia, if it had been your dog, you would have been cuffed, and down on the asphalt, at the time of the shooting. Are you honestly trying to tell us that your primary emotion in that circumstance would be compassion towards the shooter?

18 posted on 01/09/2003 2:03:24 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: JohnHuang2
We should bump this to all those who justified the shooting on the original thread. That bulky cop really felt threatened by that small dog....
19 posted on 01/09/2003 2:03:55 AM PST by gd124
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To: patriciaruth
, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

Yes, but you're a statist lap dog sheep.

20 posted on 01/09/2003 2:05:17 AM PST by DAnconia55 (Did I mention Unions are evil?)
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To: patriciaruth
But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

Would that be before or after you licked his jack-boots?

You apologists for this kind of police behavior make me sick. Cops are supposed to protect and serve, in this case they did not.

Anyone with an IQ above room temperature should have figured out within 5 seconds that these were NOT bank robbers.

These cops are criminals.

21 posted on 01/09/2003 2:07:54 AM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: patriciaruth
If that is what police call a 'threatening dog', they might as well shoot every pooch they see on sight -- that dog was OBVIOUSLY not a threat. Having watched the video, the dog isn't lunging, in fact, he's trotting up to the officer, tail wagging!

You're quite the apologist, patricaruth.

That cop needs to be fired. If that's how he reacts to an approaching dog, whilst he's got a shotgun at his own disposal (not to mention about a half-dozen other officers), then he's just not the kind of guy I want wielding the power of lethal force.

22 posted on 01/09/2003 2:10:26 AM PST by zoyd
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To: patriciaruth
But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty.

I think I'm going to be sick.

23 posted on 01/09/2003 2:17:54 AM PST by Ken H
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To: patriciaruth
And then you would've gotten your kneepads out.
24 posted on 01/09/2003 2:20:06 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (Attacks on women? They'll tax anything these days.)
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To: JohnHuang2
...I yelled at the dog to get back, but it attempted to circle me to attack, so I felt that I had no option but to protect myself," the officer wrote in a police report....

John, how many times have we read these types of lies after police raids, when there was no video record to contradict them?

25 posted on 01/09/2003 2:20:09 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: patriciaruth
Why would he need comforting, anyway? Right about then, he'd be thinking, "I killed something! Forget those problems with 'little softy', I'm a MAN!"
26 posted on 01/09/2003 2:24:49 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (Attacks on women? They'll tax anything these days.)
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To: sushiman
the killing of beloved one is almost justifiable homicide!
27 posted on 01/09/2003 2:27:24 AM PST by NYTexan (My black Lab is this man's best friend!)
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To: gd124
I watched it.

I've also watched my own dog go in for the attack - he goes in fast, low, and STRAIGHT. And if he's making any noise, it's a low growl, not a high whine.

But this video showed none of that behavior. The dog lopes around, in a semi-circle, whining.

But this ignores what happened previously - the dog's owner pleaded with the cop to close the door to keep the dog inside. That the dog jumped out of the car is a forseeable consequence. The officer's are negligent.

28 posted on 01/09/2003 2:28:46 AM PST by Monitor
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To: Monitor
Exactly. But we all know what will happen - the cop will get a nice paid vacation and nothing else will be done.
29 posted on 01/09/2003 2:35:31 AM PST by gd124
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To: zoyd
Most cops today today don't want you armed with anything.

A firearm, knife, baseball bat or a big dog.

They just want to pull you over and write you up. It's a matter of revenue.

I have lost the respect for police that I had in my youth.

They are now just municipal hacks who avoid the bad-guys and hassle the decent citizens.

30 posted on 01/09/2003 2:36:26 AM PST by johnny7
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To: gd124
Exactly. But we all know what will happen - the cop will get a nice paid vacation and nothing else will be done.

If it were up to me, the cop would be given three choices.

1) Squat down and sh*t out an identical dog, to replace the one he murdered.

2) Get down on all fours, and take on the duty of being the family's pet, 24/7, for a period not to exceed a dog's average lifetime - water and Alpo being his sole source of nutrition during that time.

3) Allow himself to be decapitated, via 12 gauge.

31 posted on 01/09/2003 2:54:08 AM PST by Monitor
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To: johnny7
I, as a dog owner, am also disheartened by the facts that have been presented here. However, one must not take the few bad apples and generalize the entire police community based on those few bad apples.

Unfortunately, the bad police get the attention and the news, which causes the overwhelming good service that policemen perform, to be overlooked.

32 posted on 01/09/2003 2:55:50 AM PST by marvlus
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To: patriciaruth
The last incident I had along these lines was with 4 large to medium sized dogs at night. The pack leader was a male that was approaching straight on, growling, barking and with teeth bared. The others were following his lead a couple of steps behind them. I pulled my stun gun and just discharged it in front of them and the whole pack turned tail and ran like hell.

I didn't have to stun any of them, mase them, or shoot them. This officer's story is a bunch of crap.

He's probably one of those 'cat lovers' that hate dogs.

33 posted on 01/09/2003 2:58:28 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: gd124
Those here who are defending the killer cop had best take a look at that video. That jerk has no right to ever wear a badge again.
34 posted on 01/09/2003 3:13:48 AM PST by per loin
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To: marvlus
Police are great in a crisis. It's the everyday work they screw up.

I've reported vandalism on my property and became suspect #1. They weren't interested that I knew who the perp was.

I carry a big Buck knife in the front seat of my car for protection.

A cop pulled me over for a seatbelt violation and told me the knife was illegal!

There are more than “a few bad apples” marvlus.

35 posted on 01/09/2003 3:22:19 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7
I have lost the respect for police that I had in my youth. They are now just municipal hacks who avoid the bad-guys and hassle the decent citizens.

Sad;y, I have come to the same conclusion. It hurts too - I used to be very pro-cop. Now it seems they're overrun with thugs. I know there are good cops out there - I just wish they'd clean up their own house.
36 posted on 01/09/2003 3:26:20 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Scotty Moore when we need him most?)
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To: JohnHuang2
"to an average viewer, the scene recorded on the video may not demonstrate the aggressiveness or the threat the officer said he experienced as the dog came toward him."

Translation: You going to believe us, or your own eyes?

37 posted on 01/09/2003 3:34:56 AM PST by bullseye1911
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To: goody2shooz
"part of their professional training."

If that is the case, then a lesson to be drawn from this incident is to never travel with your dog in the car unless it is in a pet carrier. You can be stopped at any time and directed to exit your car.

38 posted on 01/09/2003 3:46:04 AM PST by Truth29
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To: JohnHuang2
The Cookeville police officer who shot the dog, Eric Hall, has since been reassigned to administrative duties while the incident is probed.

Is it just me, or is ERIC a strange name for a dog?

39 posted on 01/09/2003 3:49:53 AM PST by Elsie
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To: patriciaruth
b-a-a-a-a-a-a-h
you are a sheep
40 posted on 01/09/2003 3:58:11 AM PST by error99
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To: A.J.Armitage
There were an awful lot of apostrophi in your reply, but they all appear to be properly placed.
41 posted on 01/09/2003 4:01:06 AM PST by error99
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
They are now just municipal hacks...

If you remember this, you'll be OK.

Chandra Levy, Muhammad and Malvo come to mind.

Cops didn't find them... citizens did.

42 posted on 01/09/2003 4:03:28 AM PST by johnny7
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To: ambrose
I yelled at the dog to get back, but it attempted to circle me to attack, so I felt that I had no option but to protect myself," the officer wrote in a police report.

What did the cop think the dog understood english?

How did the cop not see what was going to happen, the family sure did.

43 posted on 01/09/2003 4:07:50 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
If I had been handcuffed on the ground, surrounded by cops with guns drawn, and this shooting occurred, I would have instantly presumed that I was going to be "next". I would have feared for my life, just like the officer claims that he feared for his. I would have then responded according to my presumptions. So, had this been me, I would have probably ended up dead, as well. Luckily, for all, there was no small child that ran out of the car to "attack" the officer.
44 posted on 01/09/2003 4:33:42 AM PST by error99
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Way too pretty. Tommy Lee Jones maybe. I wish SOMEONE would do a movie about Bob Lee. Or his daddy.
45 posted on 01/09/2003 4:40:29 AM PST by Rifleman
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To: Ouachita
I watched the video. The dog did not appear to be attacking. It appeared to be friendly.

Maybe the triggerman is a weenie who is scared of anything bigger than a cat?

46 posted on 01/09/2003 4:44:34 AM PST by LibKill
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To: patriciaruth
"...But if it had been my dog, I would have cried and then comforted the cop and told him not to feel guilty..."

The lunacy of this statement is literally breathtaking.

It has to be poorly presented sarcasm.

47 posted on 01/09/2003 4:44:57 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Bob Lee's dog's name was Mike.
Hey, I've only read Point of Impact about 15 times...:)
49 posted on 01/09/2003 4:58:50 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Another disturbed youth makes good!)
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To: JohnHuang2
"...the video may not demonstrate the aggressiveness or the threat the officer said he experienced as the dog came toward him."

I wonder if the video shows th "agressivenesss or the threat" to the family by these thugs acting as officers of the law? Sounds like "Good shooting" to the gunman, too bad one of the family didn't act up so we could have had more practice.

50 posted on 01/09/2003 5:01:07 AM PST by FreePaul
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