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Hitler's sexuality is HBO topic (Claim Hitler Was "Gay")
Yahoo News ^ | Thu Jan 9 2003 | Andrew Wallenstein

Posted on 01/09/2003 5:43:35 AM PST by Skooz

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To: Skooz
If there was ever incontrovertible proof that his was gay, I believe he would get the liberal media's most total makeover in the annals of history.

"He was thoooooo mithunderstood," they will chirp. "Hitler was oprethed by a heterothexual world and thimply wanted to expreth his thexuality. The gatthing of Jewth, the murdering of gypthies...that was all just his expretthion of rage for being oprethed by the mattheth. It was all Reagan's fault."

61 posted on 01/09/2003 11:41:03 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: aristeides; Leisler
There was a post once that asked:

Guess what world leader:

- Was the first to Western leader to fully legalize a woman's "right to choose"
- an animal lover
- never drank
- passed ordinances against public smoking
- was a vegetarian
- loved the opera and music
- earned money as a watercolor artist when he was young
- spoke out against war after his service
- ushered in the first Nationalized Health Care in the Western world
- was an early advocate of mass transit and rail
- cut unemployment through massive public works probjects
- spoke out against prostitution as exploiting women
- declared a National War on Poverty

You get the picture.

62 posted on 01/09/2003 11:46:06 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Skooz
If there is convincing proof for this claim, then brace yourself for a massive wave of historical revisionism concerning Hitler. Books will come out claiming that he wasn't such a bad guy after all. Holocaust denyers will gain respectability in academia. Nazism will be presented as "misunderstood" and the socialist welfare state elements of it will be touted. The militarism and attrocities will be soft pedalled the same way they are with historical treatment of the USSR.

I know it sounds crazy, but just wait and watch it happen. Political correctness makes its adherents perform strange mental gymnastics. In the PC mind, homosexuality is an absolute good. Therefore anyone who is gay can't be all bad, in their opinion. Cognitive dissonance will force the PC crowd to reconcile the fact that a very bad human being was gay. They will change their opinion of the man instead of the sexual preference. Mark my words.
63 posted on 01/09/2003 11:57:35 AM PST by Media Insurgent
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To: Skooz
Did Hitler only have 1 ball?

"One academic who reviewed the book for the Washington Post chastised the author, German history professor Lothar Machtan, for coming "perilously close to blaming the entire Holocaust on Hitler's alleged sexuality."

Unadulterated BS- Hitler first and ever foremost an ant-semite-and the war was about racial purity.NOT ABOUT HIS PENIS PROBLEMS.

64 posted on 01/09/2003 12:09:46 PM PST by Helms
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
Hitler also liked his females as young as possible. Is Oliver Stone(r)s ghost hovering????
65 posted on 01/09/2003 12:11:47 PM PST by Helms
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To: VadeRetro
Thanks for the link. Very interesting. I shall buy the book Hitler and Geli.
66 posted on 01/09/2003 1:59:03 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
Haven't read it myself--didn't mean to appear to plug it--but it does look interesting.
67 posted on 01/09/2003 2:14:35 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: xzins
Of course he was Gay, haven't any of you seen "THE PRODUCERS?" I saw this with the national touring Co. in San Diego last weekend. I have to say this was the most enjoyable evening of theater I've ever attended, and I've attended alot! It was better than you've even heard!
68 posted on 01/09/2003 2:21:02 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy; All
A newspaper "for lesbian and gay New York" reviewed "The Hidden Hitler" by Lothar Machtan and didn't much care for the conclusion that Adolf was playing on the wrong team. Apparently, they thought it reflected poorly on them as a group.
69 posted on 01/09/2003 2:54:05 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: SkyPilot
You left out gun control.
70 posted on 01/09/2003 5:44:09 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Hildy
Singer: Don't be stupid, be a smarty. Come and join the Nazi party.

Franz Liebkind: Not many people know it, but the Fuhrer was a terrific dancer.

71 posted on 01/09/2003 5:46:13 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Rain-maker
'nuff sed
72 posted on 01/09/2003 6:32:35 PM PST by P8riot
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To: ohioman
The early Nazi Party homos were known as the Brownshirts

Or was it the browneyes?

73 posted on 01/09/2003 6:35:21 PM PST by P8riot
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To: Rain-maker
Dahtz Dah Feurherher! Dahling!
74 posted on 01/09/2003 6:36:51 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: P8riot
So, Hitler's a fag. OK nothing shocking here.
75 posted on 01/09/2003 6:41:23 PM PST by Cvengr (John 3:17...doesn't begin with 'except')
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To: Skooz
Here's a related book:

The Pink Swastika

76 posted on 01/09/2003 6:43:20 PM PST by Harley109 (If you love someone set them free; if they don't come back, hunt them down and nuke them.)
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To: Skooz
I've read the book, and virtually all of the evidence comes from a convicted child molester and fraudster. Hardly the most reliable witness.
77 posted on 01/09/2003 7:33:30 PM PST by gd124
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To: SkyPilot
I think the Nazis outlawed abortion for Germans, but not for Jews, etc., so I don't think you could say that they fully legalised a womens right to choose, except for those that they considered "inferior".
78 posted on 01/09/2003 7:41:37 PM PST by gd124
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To: TonyRo76
You're gonna get banned for that comment.
Many others have been for less that using the word "queer".
79 posted on 01/09/2003 7:51:26 PM PST by DeCran
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To: Guillermo
There is no denying that the top echelons of the Nazi Party, especially in it's early days (26-34), was full of homosexuals.

You can always tell when someone is about to make a highly dubious claim: they lead in with the "there is no denying that...'' proviso.

Apart from Ernst Rohm, what top Nazis were "gay"? Is having Rohm and a few other gays in the SA enough to make the statement that the "top echelons of the Nazi Party" were "full of gays", true? Or is this just more rhetorical excess?

No doubt the Nazis had their gay subcultures, just like the GOP has "log cabin republicans". Do these gay Republicans define the GOP in relation to the gay issue? No? And if not, how is the NSDAP any different? Any large organization is going to have a certain percentage of homosexuals.

I would wager that the Nazis had no more homos than any other German political party of their day, and probably fewer than existed in the socialist or communist parties. Remember, when the great Catholic writer, poet, and adventurer Roy Campbell said "the sodomites are on your side" he was referring to the Spanish Communists and their leftist supporters, not to the fascists or nazis supporting Franco.

80 posted on 01/09/2003 8:03:59 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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