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That's unusual. Usually the only people who suffer a post-mortom "outing" are great men like Socrates, Plato, Alexander the Great, Leonardo Da Vinci, et al. This is the first one I have seen of a scoundral.
1 posted on 01/09/2003 5:43:35 AM PST by Skooz
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GLAAD news media director Cathy Renna has higher hopes for the documentary. "We would welcome a rigorous and fair examination of the book from all different sides, which it didn't get from the mainstream media when it first came out," she said.

Translation: We look forward to a thorough debunking of this assertion.

2 posted on 01/09/2003 5:45:07 AM PST by Skooz
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....not that there's anything wrong with that.
3 posted on 01/09/2003 5:47:34 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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Hitler gay?
That's gonna ruin his reputation.
Just ask Rosie.
7 posted on 01/09/2003 5:53:09 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Another disturbed youth makes good!)
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If he wasn't gay, how can his fascination with men wearing short leather pants be explained?
9 posted on 01/09/2003 6:02:50 AM PST by Oztrich Boy
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HBO is developing a documentary based on a controversial book that claims Adolf Hitler was gay.


He just wanted to be loved.
10 posted on 01/09/2003 6:06:16 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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If anyone really cares what Hitler's sex life was all about, it is clear that he was not "Normal". He did however, hang out with women and insist that they participate in very kinky and disgusting sex acts, which they seemed not to mind, if only for the status of being in his inner circle.

There was a niece I seem to remember who became involved with this devil sexually and as a result jumped (or was pushed) from a window to her death. He was said to have
suffered greatly over her loss.

Eva Braun was a teenager when she saw and fell in love with Adolf and provided him with adoring self denegrating protestations of her undying love and threats of suicide if he rejected her. He seems to have been moved and kept her hanging around under cover so as not to offend his officers and their wives or the family oriented German population.

Eva, foolish girl, stayed the course and finally had the
privlege of becoming his wife just prior to the implimentation of their mutual suicide agreement in the bunker under the Chancellory where the cowards hid until
their final copout rather than face the inevidable music. That Hitler was mad is probably true and so must Eva have heen.

Who, but the homosexuals with an ajenda, cares whether or not Hitler was homosexual, or homophobic, or kinky or asexual? He, like Stalin, and Al Gore flunked out of Seminary in their quest to become men of God. He and Stalin were the devil incarnate!
11 posted on 01/09/2003 6:06:25 AM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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Rats, I thought the thread title said "Hillary was Gay".
15 posted on 01/09/2003 6:29:41 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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Excuse me ...I thought this was another "Hitlery" Clinton thread
16 posted on 01/09/2003 6:32:50 AM PST by joesnuffy
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Bailey defended his company's decision to explore Hillary's alleged homosexuality. "It's an absolutely uncomfortable subject, but you're in graver danger if you refuse to explore an idea in fear that someone might misinterpret it," he said...........
17 posted on 01/09/2003 6:34:20 AM PST by yoe
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book made me believe AH was homosexual-and this fact actually helped him 'come' to power-don't ask me elaborate here, it's been 15 mos. since i read it-jus read it if you care to learn some new historical homosexual angles....
18 posted on 01/09/2003 6:44:29 AM PST by 1234
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It's not that straightforward. He had an affair with a niece, who (probably) committed suicide or (maybe) was murdered.
20 posted on 01/09/2003 6:48:14 AM PST by VadeRetro (How's THAT for "normal?")
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That'll sure p!$$ off the neo-nazi groups a bit.

But then again....maybe not.

21 posted on 01/09/2003 6:53:34 AM PST by P8riot
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The following excerpt of an earlier thread was posted by TigerLikesRooster in June. This new thread is an obvious attempt at using their media arm to re-explain the history of the "pink swastika." Hitler-was-gay must really bother the sodomite movement. Truth is truth, however.


http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b33b7e907fd.htm




Exploding the Myth of the “Pink Triangle.”




Excerpts from The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party (Founders Publishing Corporation, 1995) by Scott Lively and Kevin E. Abrams.

The following article was prepared by Scott Lively and was previously published in substantial part in Culture Wars magazine, April, 1996, and in The Journal of Human Sexuality (Lewis and Stanley, 1996).

The pink triangle, symbol of the “gay rights” movement, is familiar to many Americans. As the badge used by the Nazis to designate homosexuals in the concentration camps, the pink triangle perfectly expresses the message of “gay rights.” That message is that homosexuals are currently and historically victims of irrational prejudice and that those who oppose homosexuality are hateful bigots. This all-important victim status engenders sympathy for the homosexual “cause” among well-meaning heterosexuals. Thus, millions of otherwise rational Americans support a movement whose sole unifying characteristic is a sexual lifestyle they personally find repugnant.
When homosexuals display the pink triangle, they are equating all opposition to homosexuality with Nazism and themselves with the Jewish victims of the Holocaust. As pro-homosexual Rabbi Bernard Mehlman put it, “Homophobia and Anti-Semitism are part of the same disease.” [This issue is addressed at length in Section Three, How American ‘Gays’ are Stealing the Holocaust].
While a relative few homosexuals were interned in Nazi work camps, the role of homosexuals in Nazi history is not accurately represented by the pink triangle. Our review of more than 200 history and other texts written since the 1930s suggests that a pink swastika would be equally appropriate: while some homosexuals were jailed by the Nazi party, there is no doubt that the Nazi party itself had many homosexuals within its own ranks, even among its highest leadership.


The Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party




The “gay rights” movement often portrays itself as an American phenomenon which arose from the civil rights movement of the 1950s. It is not uncommon to hear homosexualists (those both “gay” and “straight” which promote the legitimization of homosexuality) characterize “gay rights” as the natural third wave of civil rights activism (following blacks and women). In reality, however, Germany was the birthplace of “gay rights,” and its legacy in that nation is truly alarming.
The “grandfather of gay rights” was a homosexual German lawyer named Karl Heinrich Ulrichs. Ulrichs had been molested at age 14 by his male riding instructor (Kennedy in Pascal:15). Instead of attributing his adult homosexuality to the molestation, however, Ulrichs devised in the 1860s what became known as the “third sex” theory of homosexuality. Ulrichs' model holds that male homosexuals are actually female souls trapped within male bodies. The reverse phenomenon supposedly explains lesbianism. Since homosexuality was an innate condition, reasoned Ulrichs, homosexual behavior should be decriminalized. An early follower of Ulrichs coined the term “homosexual” in an open letter to the Prussian Minister of Justice in 1869 (Lauritsen and Thorstad:6).
By the time Ulrichs died in 1895, the “gay rights” movement in Germany had gained considerable strength. Frederich Engels noted this in a letter to Karl Marx regarding Ulrichs’ efforts: “The pederasts start counting their numbers and discover they are a powerful group in our state. The only thing missing is an organization, but it seems to exist already, but it is hidden” (Plant:38). After Ulrichs' death, the movement split into two separate and opposed factions. One faction followed Ulrichs' successor, Magnus Hirschfeld, who formed the Scientific Humanitarian Committee in 1897 (Steakley:23f.) and later opened the Institute for Sex Research in Berlin. The other faction was organized by Adolf Brandt, publisher of the first homosexual magazine, Der Eigene (The Elite). Brandt, Benedict Friedlander and Wilhelm Jansen formed the Gemeinschaft der Eigenen (The Community of the Elite) in 1902. What divided these groups was their concepts of masculinity. Ulrichs' theory embraced a feminine identity. His, and later Hirschfeld's, followers literally believed they were women trapped in men's bodies.
The followers of Brandt, however, were deeply insulted by Ulrichs' theory. They perceived themselves not merely as masculine, but as a breed of men superior in masculine qualities even to heterosexuals (Greenburg:410). The Community of the Elite (CE) preached that male homosexuality was the foundation of all nation-states and that male homosexuals represented an elite strata of human society (Mills:152). The CE fashioned itself as a modern incarnation of the warrior cults of ancient Greece. Modeling themselves after the military heroes of Sparta, Thebes and Crete, the members of the CE were ultra-masculine, male-supremacist and pederastic (devoted to man/boy sex). Brandt said in Der Eigene, that he wanted men who “thirst for a revival of Greek times and Hellenic standards of beauty after centuries of Christian barbarism” (Brandt in Oosterhuis and Kennedy:3).
One of the keys to understanding both the rise of Nazism and the later persecution of some homosexuals by the Nazis is found in this early history of the German “gay rights” movement. For it was the CE which created and shaped what would become the Nazi persona, and it was the loathing which these “Butches” held for effeminate homosexuals (“Femmes”) which led to the internment of some of the latter in slave labor camps in the Third Reich. Plato, who originated the fascist model of government in The Republic (Weber:11), captures the spirit of the CE in another of his Dialogues, Banquet: “If it were possible to form a state or an army exclusively of homosexuals, these men would direct all their emulations toward honors, and going into battle with such a spirit would, even if their numbers were small, conquer the world” (Plato in Heiden’s Der Fuehrer:741). From today’s vantage point, Plato’s observation seems like an eerie prophecy of Nazism.

23 posted on 01/09/2003 7:08:30 AM PST by xzins
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I posted something about this back in '99, and Jim Rob nearly threw me off the site. Now it's "mainstream"...and ok to talk about. But no worries... I was just tring to keep this place cutting edge.
24 posted on 01/09/2003 7:15:33 AM PST by paltz
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25 posted on 01/09/2003 7:18:44 AM PST by Rain-maker
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Years ago I read a book that was basically a discussion of how the OSS (or related intelligence
group) did a "distant" psychological analysis on Hitler.
I don't think they concluded he was gay...but that he did have a lot of "hang-ups".

IIRC, the group tried to make sure some sort of packet of pornography would fall into
Hitler's possession...hoping that the material would push some of his buttons
and either distract or unhinge him.
I don't know if they ever succeeded in doing this...
26 posted on 01/09/2003 7:19:58 AM PST by VOA
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Little wonder that members of the D.C. chapter of ACT-UP admited to reading and using tactics from Mein Kampf!
31 posted on 01/09/2003 7:28:55 AM PST by pollwatcher
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If they really want to get to the bottom of this, they need to consult "The Hidden Hitler" by Hitler's close associate and pianist, American-born Ernst "Putzi" Hanfstaengl.

Hitler, he says, could not relate to women as an equal, and instead needed to be humiliated and dominated by them. This ugliness remains the best explanation of Geli Raubal's suicide. I'll spare the details, but imagine the worst.

Putzi fled Germany before the war, and as a POW helped Army Intelligence develop a psychological profile of Hitler: another very scary document.

32 posted on 01/09/2003 7:29:28 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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He hated cigarettes. Was a Vegan. Always had his panties in a bunch about something. Was for national heathcare, daycare, liked boys going nude in the summer sun or wearing leather shorts.

Gay? Naaa...
36 posted on 01/09/2003 9:12:25 AM PST by Leisler
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Not so.

A recently discovered little known fact may help to explain Hillary Clinton's aggressive and domineering personality: She is, in fact, Adolph Hitler's long lost daughter.

2 months before her suicide with Adolph in the infamous Berlin bunker, Eva Braun gave birth to little "Hildegard" Shickelgruber and arranged to have the baby smuggled across Allied lines to France.

In Marseilles, France, the child was delivered to a kind-hearted ship's captain. Upon landing in New Orleans, the captain personally carried the infant to the home of Eva's second cousin, Dorte Dittlemann, in – appropriately -- Stuttgart, Arkansas.

The rest, as they say, is history!

38 posted on 01/09/2003 9:40:13 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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