Excalibur, The Rock That May Mark A New Dawn For Man

The Guardian (UK) ^ | 1-9-2003 | Giles Tremlett

[Cogadh na Sith]

Even if Homo heidelbergensis was an intelligent, creative, artistic type, it did him no good. He eventually evolved into a neanderthal and then became extinct. Homo sapiens came out of Africa to replace him.

That hypothesis is starting to look kind of shakey isn't it?

This find is huge....

[blam]

"That hypothesis is starting to look kind of shakey isn't it?"

Yup. We are Neanderthal.

[sheik yerbouty]

Neanderthals and Cro magnons were the same species. The imperative for a squat robust build died out as cutting tools improved.

[blam]

"The imperative for a squat robust build died out as cutting tools improved."

A squat compact and robust body was necessary for the Ice Age. Because they were in the colder climates they covered their bodies which deprived them of vitamin 'D' and they turned white.

[goody2shooz]

But we don't share any DNA with Neanderthals. I vote for more testing wherever Neanderthal DNA proves testable. It may just be bad luck that the individual tested came from a group that didn't share in progeniture.

[blam]

Redheads 'Are Neanderthals'

[blam]

Neanderthal-Cro-Magnon Hybrid?

[Billthedrill]

"There might be other reasons for it to be there," speculated Dr. Margarita Diaz-Andreu...

Yep. Getting rid of the murder weapon is yet another sign of human cognition...

[wildbill]

Redheads are neanderthals.

Yeah, I think I dated one of the most primitive ones some years ago.

[goody2shooz]

I subscribe to Archeology, and yes, I knew about this child. But he died too young to reproduce. But maybe, just maybe, there were more who did grown to maturity and had descendents.

I feel that eventually the fact that Neanderthal genes survive in Europeans will be ascertained.

[blam]

"I feel that eventually the fact that Neanderthal genes survive in Europeans will be ascertained."

Ditto.

[goody2shooz]

That is an amusing hypothesis but difficult to prove. Truth is more interesting. The ancient Celts originated, most likely, from around the area of the old Euxene Lake which became flooded from the Aegean Sea in a break through an isthmus circa 7,500 years ago. Massive flooding caused an exodus of peoples away from what would become known in the ancient world as the New Euxene Sea (the Black Sea to us).

This ancient flood perhaps explains why so many peoples in the Europe-Asian landmass have myths involving a cataclysmic flood.

[swarthyguy]

The more we investigate, the older we get.

[f.Christian]

To: f.Christian

Dakmar...

I took a few minutes to decipher that post, and I must say I agree with a lot of what you said.

fC...

These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Dakmar...

Where you and I diverge is on the Evolution/Communism thing. You seem to view Darwin and evolution as the beginning of the end for enlighted, moral civilization, while I think Marx, class struggle, and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" are the true dangers.

God bless you, I think we both have a common enemy in the BRAVE-NWO.

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[gonzo]

"... Neanderthals and Cro magnons were the same species. The imperative for a squat robust build died out as cutting tools improved..."

Correction: we are both human, but different species of human. We are Cro-Magnon - they were Neanderthal. The DNA is different.

We did not evolve from Neanderthal, but we may very well have intermingled with them, and produced viable off-spring, though almost all of them would have been mules (unable to reproduce).

I think the correct word is a 'singularity', and describes a fundamental change in humanity. With the ever-accelerating advances in computer technology and bio-engineering, we may yet get to see one or more 'singularities'.

An 'Artificial-Intelligence' computer similar to HAL 9000, or an engineered-human-being with no disease and an incredibly long lifespan are visible in the near future.

Just food for thought - we'll probably kill them............FRegards

[fire_eye]

...proof that Homo heidelbergensis was a cannibal.

How do they know that? They'd have to have been eating other humans to be cannibals. It's more likely that they were eating the liberals who were trying to ban their stone axes...

[sheik yerbouty]

Where did you get that info? I'm welling to look into it. In college I had an English Professor as wide as a linebacker, 5'9'', stocky, and with a bit of a browridge. His "Neanderthalness" did not make him mentally challenged. Wasn't the Neanderthal cranial capacity about 1600ccs as opposed to modern man's 1500ccs?

[blam]

"The more we investigate, the older we get."

Yup. Everything is getting older.