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1 posted on 01/10/2003 1:47:01 PM PST by hsmomx3
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2 posted on 01/10/2003 1:48:45 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: madfly; Free the USA; B4Ranch; Tancredo Fan; Marine Inspector; Ajnin; agitator; Tancred; backhoe
Ping!
3 posted on 01/10/2003 1:51:23 PM PST by Madcelt (tis better to starve free, than live a fat slave!-Aesop)
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To: hsmomx3
Pre-911, helping Mexico could have been a win-win for Fox and Bush. Now, it's just too hard.
4 posted on 01/10/2003 1:54:49 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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Lack of jobs and economic desperation is what drives hundreds of thousands of Mexicans to cross the border illegally every year seeking jobs here, according to Arnal Palomera.

OK so this is our fault? We have to spend billions of OUR dollars to fix it? I guess everyone figures we enjoy being a candy store for the world.

5 posted on 01/10/2003 1:56:23 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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Nonsense!! This is just a Mexican tactic to see it they can get a pool of gringo money to steal. The gringo money that did get through would simply say, "Look, if they are willing to send this too us, think how much we could get if we went up there."<p.There would NEVER be a word of thanks. Mexicans are arrogant and they have so little to be arrogant about.
6 posted on 01/10/2003 1:59:06 PM PST by Tacis (FLAMING BARBRA STREISAND!!)
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"1/2 hour closed door session"

Geez, I wonder what un-Godly deals were struck there.

If I were an AZ resident, I'd probably serve a life sentance for stringing up any polititian on a light post like the old days, for giving one penny to the Mexican government.

Not only is our own government bloated and saturated with tax money, now we have to make our neighboring countrys' economy viable.

This is indeed the beginning of the end.
7 posted on 01/10/2003 2:04:01 PM PST by taxed2death
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This crap has got to stop.

This is no different than what the North Koreans are trying to pull: international blackmail.

I'd rather spend extra money militarizing the southern border and maintaining what little sense of soveriegnty we have left.
10 posted on 01/10/2003 2:12:43 PM PST by x1stcav (HooAhh!!!)
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Hmmm... maybe there is an idea here. The Romans used allied barbarian tribes to protect their borders from other barbarian tribes. Maybe we can pay those Mexican jurisdictions bordering us to protect our border from migrants from the South. Would be cheaper, and potentially more effective.

Of course, the intent of our Federal Government is to keep the border porous, so Dems can import voters, and so Pizza Hut can sell pizzas more profitably. The cost of border security has never been the issue, has it?

21 posted on 01/10/2003 2:43:01 PM PST by Plutarch
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Does the Mexican government EVER do anything to try to help their own people (besides encouraging them to illegally enter the U.S.)?
22 posted on 01/10/2003 2:43:05 PM PST by judgeandjury
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i doubt that because one of the effects of nafta is the destruction of mexican agriculture by american agribusiness.

since the majority of immigrants are rural, i expect an increase in illegal immigration.

23 posted on 01/10/2003 2:44:09 PM PST by koax
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Heaven help us.
30 posted on 01/10/2003 2:57:44 PM PST by neutrino
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"It's cheapest for the United States to help Mexico to grow" by stimulating jobs and industry there than to continue to pay for "security, helicopters, Border Patrol, fences, walls," Arnal Palomera said.

Wonder what what the border governors and the bi-national groups will want next week. Napolitano was on ABC this week this month asking for more Federal Money to support the skyrocketing health care and court system charges brougt about by the flow of illegal aliens. There are quite a few bi-national groups that meet year round and plan these media events.

Anyone in Tucson tomorrow may want to attend this event by a man also looking for solutions.

SPENCER IN TUCSON TOMORROW, JAN. 11
Glenn Spencer of American Border Patrol will appear at a meeting of Arizonans for Immigration Reform tomorrow, Saturday, January 11, at 1:30 p.m. The meeting will be held at The Himmel Park library at 1035 N Treat Ave., Tucson, AZ 85716 (9 blocks east of N. Campbell and 1 block south of E. Speedway). The ABP MIST/BorderCam system will be on display.
For information, call 520-298-1939.

32 posted on 01/10/2003 2:58:27 PM PST by madfly (Anyone wanting info on border cam plans for Sunday, click private reply.)
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To: hsmomx3; _Jim
The John Birch Society warned me that this was going to happen way back in '64. Run away \(^o^)/
35 posted on 01/10/2003 3:03:15 PM PST by LibTeeth
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Vincente muses," Hmmmm, we make trouble, the U.S. pays; therefore, more trouble must we make!"

Dasboot muses, "Bass Akwards!: we should make it too expensive for Mexicans to flout U.S. law!"

44 posted on 01/10/2003 3:13:46 PM PST by dasboot
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TUCSON, Ariz. - Economic aid targeted to 50 regions in just six Mexican states could cut illegal immigration to the United States in half, a Mexican congressman said Thursday.

A stinking lie. Don't believe a word from creepy Mexican politicos. They will tell any lie they think will resonate with our stupid liberals.

45 posted on 01/10/2003 3:17:02 PM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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Arnal Palomera said he and his colleagues were concerned that ranchers and groups organizing patrols along the Arizona border have weapons and could cause a confrontation with illegal immigrants leading to violence.

Why, we can't have any of that! Defending their land, like the original Patriots who shed their blood defending their farms and villages against the British?

Don't they know: Someone might get hurt! Tell them to just surrender (their property, their rights, their liberty). Nobody is going to "hurt" anyone, just so long as everyone bows down and worships Big Brother!

48 posted on 01/10/2003 3:20:03 PM PST by BenR2
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A record 145 illegal immigrants died during the past fiscal year, including 83 of heat exposure.

Arnal Palomera said he and his colleagues were concerned that ranchers and groups organizing patrols along the Arizona border have weapons and could cause a confrontation with illegal immigrants leading to violence.

Uhhh.....is this the best they can do for spokespersons for their silly requests? Why is he afraid of the Arizona border patrols? Maybe they'll find some of the Mexicans who are dying of heat exposure and save their lives.

Anyway, why is he concerned about the perceived possibility of violence (which hasn't happened)? Why isn't he talking about the fact that the Mexicans who crossed the border illegally are responsible for their own deaths?

This handout he wants sounds like blackmail. What is he saying? Send us the money we would've made by entering the US illegally and taking your jobs and we'll stay home and do nothing. What arrogance.

The US government should tell this fool that we're going to use the money instead to close the border and Mexico can take care of its citizens. A responsive government that put US citizens first would be really, really, angry at this attempted extortion.

57 posted on 01/10/2003 3:30:41 PM PST by grania
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Economic aid targeted to 50 regions in just six Mexican states could cut illegal immigration to the United States in half, a Mexican congressman said Thursday.

Can we send it in the form of bullets, artillery shells, and JDAMs? Only way to really reform Mexico is to conquer it, and put it under US trusteeship for a couple of decades.

64 posted on 01/10/2003 3:55:49 PM PST by adx (Will produce tag lines for beer)
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Giving money to Mexico would be even less productive than giving out welfare in the states. Money targeted as capital to improve infrastructure and productivity would be a better objective.

An even better idea would be to capture Mexico, make it a US state or territory, and install our more efficient and productive form of government corruption. After all, we do have the best government money can buy.

67 posted on 01/10/2003 4:19:13 PM PST by meadsjn
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Mexico is a marxist country, run by an elite bunch of crooks, sort of like here. But they don't get a dime until they change their politics. We have had enough of pouring money down marxist rat holes that benefit the wealthy.
68 posted on 01/10/2003 4:23:05 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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