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U.S. sued in Hague over Mexicans' death sentences
The Dallas Morning News ^ | January 11, 2003 | By BRENDAN M. CASE / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 01/11/2003 6:39:57 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


U.S. sued in Hague over Mexicans' death sentences

01/11/2003

By BRENDAN M. CASE / The Dallas Morning News

MEXICO CITY - Last summer, President Vicente Fox canceled a trip to Texas to protest the execution of a Mexican citizen. Now, Mexico has taken its case against the U.S. death penalty to the World Court.

The Foreign Ministry asked the international tribunal to order U.S. authorities to review the death sentences of 54 Mexican citizens in the United States, including 16 in Texas.

In a suit presented Thursday in The Hague, Netherlands, Mexico accused U.S. authorities of violating the 1963 Vienna Convention of Consular Relations by not informing the 54 defendants of their right to speak with Mexican consular officials.

That assistance could have resulted in better legal representation and avoided some of those death sentences, Mexico has argued.

The Foreign Ministry said it decided to present the suit after years of opposing the U.S. death penalty. Mexico does not have the death penalty except in military courts.

U.S. officials said they were studying the suit. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said federal authorities have worked with state officials to make sure they fulfill their obligations under the Vienna Convention.

Mr. Fox canceled a trip to Texas last August to protest the execution of Javier Suárez Medina, who admitted killing a Dallas police officer during a drug bust.

In that case, Mexico accused Texas authorities of not informing Mr. Suárez of his right to speak with Mexican consular officials. U.S. officials said it was not clear at the time that he was a Mexican citizen.

Mexican officials downplayed the possibility that the suit would damage U.S. relations.

The case "is an action to reaffirm Mexico's confidence and commitment to the principle of the peaceful solution of controversies," the Foreign Ministry said.

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Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/world/stories/011103dnintcourt.a3b9f.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; mexicanmurderers; presidentbush; ussued; vicentefox
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Mr. Fox canceled a trip to Texas last August to protest the execution of Javier Suárez Medina, who admitted killing a Dallas police officer during a drug bust.

Nice. He kills a policeman and then his buddy tries to steal from the dead policeman:



Texas Department of Criminal Justice

1 posted on 01/11/2003 6:39:57 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Is there any provision for deporting a body-bag?
2 posted on 01/11/2003 6:55:07 AM PST by norton
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To: MeeknMing
It should be noted, however, that life in a Mexican prison is a more cruel and unusual punishment than an execution in America.
3 posted on 01/11/2003 6:55:34 AM PST by umgud
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To: MeeknMing
Mexico does not have the death penalty except in military courts.

But they do shoot outside of the courts system in that country, where you are guilty until proven innocent and you may never see the inside of a court room. Look to Mexico’s southern border for real time, in your face murder.

The United Nations in partnership with Vincente Fox et al, are poised to undermine American Sovereignty anyway they can; starting years ago, they have stepped up the attack.

E-mail the Texas DCJ’s criminal report to all your news papers and all your friends. Many thanks for that MeeknMing!

4 posted on 01/11/2003 7:02:24 AM PST by yoe
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To: MeeknMing
I DO NOT AND WILL NOT RECOGNIZE A"WORLD COURT".How are they going to enforce their bogus rulings?
5 posted on 01/11/2003 7:06:02 AM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: MeeknMing
Fox is a product of the Clinton administration. Fox has only one interest in this country and that's to take over
most of our southern and south western states. Every murderer, low life is force out of Mexico. Many are running
from Fox or being sent here by Fox.
More and more are leaving Mexico, Why?
Carville and Morris got Fox elected, how and why?
Something big going on with Mexico.
Harry Reid does nothing to stop the illegal immegrants that are coming into Nevada. Many middle eastern hiding among the
huge Mexican population that now exist in Nevada.
With most of our troop out of the country, Richardson will
use his governor seat to flood this country with illegals.
Daschle's seat in the Senate will play a big part in prodecting Richardson.
My opinion: Richardson was very much a part of the Clinton
sell out of this country. Richardson holds a key seat for
Mexico. North Korea my be Richardson's ace in the hold if
his Civil war for America doesn't work out or if Mexico can's defeat us.
Fox must be removed and a new Mexican President is elected
one that will do what's right for Mexico and the Mexican
people. All of America needs to boycott all goods coming from Mexico.
6 posted on 01/11/2003 7:07:33 AM PST by rebapiper
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
Good point. World courts are not supposed to have any influence on STATE courts. As in United STATES of America.
7 posted on 01/11/2003 7:09:25 AM PST by Movemout
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To: MeeknMing
The case "is an action to reaffirm Mexico's confidence and commitment to the principle of the peaceful solution of controversies," the Foreign Ministry said.

The controversy: who gets the cocaine and the money.

The Mexican Principle of Peaceful Solution: Gun down the American and steal the drugs and money.

Apparently The DMN misunderstood, it is the Principle of Appeaseful Solution, where the US takes the usual role as the one grabbing the ankles.

OK, if Vicente Fox considers it OK to randomly murder people out of greed and hate, yet considers it literally a matter of international crisis to go through multiple trials with multiple juries to pronounce a US commitment to the Principle of Freedom and Justice (doing away with proven cold blooded murderers generally goes a long way towards promoting peace). Then maybe we should return tit for tat and just incarcerate those the police feel may be a perp in an outdoor pen surrounded by insurmountable chainlink and constatina wire down range to a public rifle and pistol facility. And in an honor and tribute to the Mexican president, we can make The Fox Principle of Peace Exemption that promises peace by not investigating any stray rounds, or prosecuting any Carlos Hathcock wannabe who may be on the line.

Just as long as there is no color of law involved, Fox should be happy.

8 posted on 01/11/2003 7:18:18 AM PST by Dr Warmoose
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To: MeeknMing
Great. I guess Fox figures since we cooperate with him in not enforcing our laws by keeping these people out in the first place that we also should ignore our laws when it comes to prosecuting them for other crimes they commit against us.
9 posted on 01/11/2003 7:20:48 AM PST by sweetliberty (Whatever happened to common sense?)
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To: MeeknMing
"could have resulted in better legal representation and avoided some of those death sentences, Mexico has argued"

Translation: "could have resulted in better legal representation and avoided some of those death sentencesresponsibility for their crimes, Mexico has argued"

10 posted on 01/11/2003 7:27:20 AM PST by sweetliberty (Close the borders!)
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To: MeeknMing
"after years of opposing the U.S. death penalty. Mexico does not have the death penalty"

Well, these scum weren't IN Mexico now were they? THAT is the problem! Maybe if they'd committed this crime in their own country they'd still be breathing.

11 posted on 01/11/2003 7:30:53 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stop the invasion!)
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To: rebapiper
All of America needs to boycott all goods coming from Mexico.

Actually, it is quite difficult to convince the American sheeple to do anything under principle, since looking for a label on a product informing the customer of its origin is too bothersome a task, and saving money on inferior trinkets from the south is of far greater importance. Besides, what part of your GM car are you going to strip out of it because those parts came from Mexico? Also, more economic distress placed on Mexico exacerbates the illegal immigration problem.

The people of Arizona deserve the traitor they voted into office. If Arizonians are too stupid and lazy to defend their own borders and instead vote in seditionists and America haters, then its the other states that needs to defend themselves from the fools in Arizona. Since the border states can't be trusted to act as a barrier, and instead they have become a facilitator, then the other states needs to step up the Federal presence on the border.

One sure fire method for doing this is to recall our 37,000 nuclear hostages from Korea and give them temporary assignment doing complete and thoroughal inspection of every car, truck, trailer, ship and railcar with a Mexican origin. Exemptions can be made, of course, for perishable goods, a Fasttrack of sorts, though manifests and driver's logs will be heavily scrutinized. This will have the effect of a boycott since something made in Q1 won't make it to the shelves until around Christmas. A side benefit of this is that we establish precedent by first saying "National Security" and therefore not go against the NAFTA agreement which somehow would end up costing us money in the world courts.

Maybe when a few more airlines go under and the travelling public is reduced to a more managable number, the would-be layed off Security personnel could be reassigned to the border crossing stations and told that even more sloth, belligerance and contempt will be handsomely rewarded, not even Fox will be able to come over to this country to make even further demands on us.

12 posted on 01/11/2003 7:40:04 AM PST by Dr Warmoose
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To: MeeknMing
This is a good thing in a way. By taking this matter to the International Court--especially given President Bush's well-known opinions about international courts--Vincente Fox is shredding the last remnants of the understanding they thought they had at the time they came into office.

Bush doesn't owe Vincent Fox a damned thing. In particular, he doesn't owe him any more immigration deals. Bush understandably doesn't want to alienate the Hispanic vote, and neither should any sensible conservative. But he must find a way to open a conversation with Hispanics legally in this country while excluding the illegals. That will be difficult, but the convergence of various trends is making it absolutely necessary.
13 posted on 01/11/2003 7:56:02 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
Very sage advice, Cicero.
14 posted on 01/11/2003 7:59:43 AM PST by MoGalahad
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To: MeeknMing
The Establishment of the United Nations in New York was a serious victory by the USA. The establishment of the World Court in the Hague was a serious victory by the EU.
15 posted on 01/11/2003 8:58:56 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
The World Court does not recognize a Sovereign nation and we don't recognize them. This is most likely another smoke screen to take our eyes away from the borders while they get 100 lawyers in place. I have taken the last 2 hours to email the story and police report to leading newspapers and mags, my hometown one, and around the country.
http://www.newspapers.comTomorrow I will have copies made and see to it every elected senator and congressman in my state receives one.

We are talking about our National Sovereignty here along with law: if you break an American law, you pay for it, and being an illegal alien is also breaking the law. Presidente Fox is truly below the belt with this one, but I am sorry to say...historically very Hispanic in the way they treat agreements and treaties. Our politically correct and far too diplomatic leaders need to hear from each and everyone of us....don’t let them down!

16 posted on 01/11/2003 9:41:25 AM PST by yoe
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To: MeeknMing
There's an awful lot of executions going on in Mexico but I guess since those are being ordered by the drug lords, Fox isn't very inclined to do much about them. It's much easier for Fox to try to offend Americans than his drug cartels.
17 posted on 01/11/2003 10:35:39 AM PST by FITZ
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To: a_Turk
The Establishment of the United Nations in New York was a serious victory by the USA.

Huh? More like a serious mistake by the USA.
18 posted on 01/11/2003 11:09:05 AM PST by RepublicanHippy
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To: RepublicanHippy
To easier control the world you bring it together in one building. That was the idea behind the UN, and it's up to you individuals to squander that immense accomplishment.
19 posted on 01/11/2003 11:20:23 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: yoe
Thank you...
20 posted on 01/11/2003 11:20:59 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Just for grins: http://muffin.eggheads.org/images/funny/dogsmile.jpg)
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