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To: Robert_Paulson2
Thank you for proving my point. You'd rather stand on an irrational principle than to make even the slightest nod to common sense. That's why you'll always be the 1% party.

Of course some criminals will still get guns. By your logic, there should be no laws against murder or rape because murderers still murder and rapists still rape even though the laws are on the books so we are only giving BIG EVIL GOVERNMENT the right to interfere more and more with our lives when we, the people, give them right to prosecute people who murder and rape.

And you libertarians still blush when people call you anarchists...

145 posted on 01/13/2003 12:26:19 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: Tall_Texan
I'm not a libertarian.
I register and vote republican.. idiot.

"sensible laws" usually aren't.
When did your sensible "gun laws" prevent a single criminal from obtaining a firearm eh?

or using it illegally?

The guy that robs banks and rapes women, is not going to obey your gun laws. If they did LAWS would make us safer. They don't.

When have "sensible" gun laws made it difficult or impossible for a law abiding NON criminal to get a gun... like the "cooling off" period laws of such great fame?

YOU prove MY point. MORONS love statism even when it runs contrary to common sense, history and the constitution... and then they CLAIM to be conservatives and call other registered republicans who vote republican :libertarians: for standing up for "shall not be infringed..."

Glad to have all you Centrists on board with our team...
When the tent gets so big you anty constitutionalists are allowed in the door, maybe it's time to burn the tent and the stakes that are holding it up...


151 posted on 01/13/2003 12:37:47 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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To: Tall_Texan
Wow, what a statist you are. You obviously cannot read for yourself, are statist brainwashed to a fault and therefore capable of equating the rkba with rape and murder, in a specious argument. I have to point out the fact that the rape and murder you assigned to my position are NOT PROTECTED rights under the constitution. So try and differentiate them in your arguments.

As you know, apparently by experience, true statism, requires deceit, lying and misrepesentation of truth.
You said I oppose common sense laws... I did not say that.
I did say that most common sense laws, are not.
Gun laws, don't disarm criminals. To me, that is common sense.

You seem to be practiced in or subverted to the statist arts.

SHOWING YOUR TRUE COLORS.

The right to SELF DEFENSE is not really up for debate with me.
but for statists, it is always an issue, when the ominpotent power of their god, the enforcer state, is under assault by us small-minded folks who actually read and KNOW THEREFORE THAT there is a difference constitutionally between the right to protect yourself via the rkba, an the right to rape or murder others.

They simply must find a way to regulate those evil guns... and attaching the words "common sense" to the front of an argument does NOT change the nature of it's stupidity.

Yours was a rather stupid strawman argument... and it burns rather nicely, perhaps you could try another with somebody else. But you both offend, and bore me.

In summary for the infirm: keeping a fire arm is NOT the equivalent of raping or murdering... they are NOTHING alike. Furthermore neither republicans, like me, nor libertarians like lewis, SEE them as similar. Perhaps YOU would like to paint guns as nasty as murder... or delusionally choose to believe that gun laws, if they are only sensible enough, will stop criminals from doing what they do...

Shame on you for equating guns, murder and rape and then assigning them all to my thought process in a specious and blatantly deceptive argument... all because YOU THINK I belong to a party, that I don't.

If your type of sense eq8ting rape, murder and rkba, is any part of creating "sensible" laws, we better lay off the "sensible laws" till your doctor says its okay to stop taking your meds.
153 posted on 01/13/2003 1:03:38 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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