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Brace for A Real War at Home
DefenseWatch "The Voice of the Grunt" ^ | January 22, 2003 | Ed Offley

Posted on 01/22/2003 7:39:24 PM PST by Mossad1967

The next war with Iraq won't be a distant video-game conflict that we will watch live on CNN as in 1991.

It will likely be a two-front war, with the American heartland as the second battlefield.

That's the quiet but grave warning that senior military officials are beginning to sound as the Defense Department accelerates its plan to assemble nearly 200,000 troops in Southwest Asia preparing to invade and topple the Iraqi regime. Hundreds, if not thousands, of U.S. military personnel are also quietly preparing for combat right here at home.

This is a threat and a response issue that has quietly emerged in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, although it has attracted scant attention or interest from Congress, the news media or public at large...

(Excerpt) Read more at sftt.org ...


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Keep your powder dry! Semper Fi!
1 posted on 01/22/2003 7:39:24 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Mossad1967
Bring it on !!

Good luck to Kalifornia and New Yorky, since they can't defend themselves.


2 posted on 01/22/2003 7:41:36 PM PST by unixfox
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3 posted on 01/22/2003 7:42:27 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: unixfox
You may think NY and CA can't defend themselves, you are sorely mistaken.
4 posted on 01/22/2003 7:47:56 PM PST by The Vast Right Wing
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To: Mossad1967
Keep your powder dry! Semper Fi!

I know what you mean, however, let's take it a step further. How about a volunteer militia, formed along the lines of the Civil Air Patrol, that could augment the U.S. Army and Marines. (There's even a past precedent for allowing the use of deadly force for such a unit. During WWII, several U-boats were sunk by those "pesky, little yellow and red airplanes".).

This would take a lot of organization, planning and coordination, but I think given the amount of firepower in American homes and an effort to mobilize "block" militias - on the theory that it's better to fight as a team rather than trying to Rambo it - it would be a tremendous addition to homeland security.

5 posted on 01/22/2003 7:48:05 PM PST by Archangelsk (Freedom is won or lost everyday.)
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To: unixfox
Just Los Angeles and San Francisco. The rest of the state will do just fine.
6 posted on 01/22/2003 7:48:32 PM PST by WarSlut
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To: Mossad1967
Thanks for the link.
I had some other materials, but not that particular FEMA guide, which looks to be pretty comprehensive. I downloaded the pdf's I wanted to print for my family. I'm also going to email the link to some other folks.
7 posted on 01/22/2003 7:51:09 PM PST by visualops (C'mon Freeple, lets get to 100%!)
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To: The Vast Right Wing
I got my street covered!!

Bring em on!
8 posted on 01/22/2003 7:54:13 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: Mossad1967
A domestic "military" mission is just silly. Terror attacks will be carried out by individuals or small groups who either die in the attack or sneak off into the general population.

The concept of a frontline to assault militarily is preposterous. The aftermath of a domestic terrorist attack is investigation -- perhaps massive, but certainly not military.
9 posted on 01/22/2003 7:54:21 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: Mossad1967
Ed Offley must have needed an article desperately to write this.

The military does contingency planning for every possible conflict everywhere. The new Northern Command was set up solely to handle Homeland Ddefense. Their whole purpose is to prepare contingency plans for invasion, terrorism and civil war. Either that or go on leave.

The fact that they are doing what they are paid to do is gratifying, but they would be doing exactly the same if Al Quaida, Saddam Hussein and North Korea didn't exist. It means nothing.

So9

10 posted on 01/22/2003 8:00:30 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Archangelsk
now you know thats gonna really Pi$$ off the gun grabbers!
11 posted on 01/22/2003 8:04:12 PM PST by jrd
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To: Mossad1967
So you heard it here first: Every American citizen should begin crafting his or her own survival plan in event of a sudden outbreak of terrorism and military combat on home soil (see below for access to a new federal publication on this topic).

The terrorists think we came after them in a big way after 9/11. They try spreading chem or bio, and it will be open season on muslims in the US.

12 posted on 01/22/2003 8:10:52 PM PST by Centurion2000 (The meek shall inherit the Earth. The stars belong to the bold.)
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To: jlogajan; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; RJayneJ
"A domestic "military" mission is just silly. Terror attacks will be carried out by individuals or small groups who either die in the attack or sneak off into the general population."

Israel is probably a valid example to look to.

We'll probably see similar attacks here as what Israel has coped with for decades, including civilian sniper attacks, kick-burglary-style home-invasion shootings, car bombs, suicide bombers, mortar attacks on schools and other high-density targets (think: sporting events, political rallies, parades), as well as various attempts to poison our water supplies chemically (e.g. ricin, cyanide) and infect our food supply biologically (e.g. anthrax, smallpox).

In addition we'll probably get hit by a few train derailments and highway-bridge collapses.

Done in the right way, your local infrastructure could be paralyzed for up to two weeks.

Simply insure that you have two weeks worth of food and water sealed in your home, office, or location in which you spend any sizeable portion of your time. Depending upon the type of attack, its affects, and our response (e.g. a no-leave-the-house quarantine in the case of a smallpox attack), you want to be able to handle the disruption with a minimum of muss and fuss.

More able-bodied types should probably consider taking adequate precautions for the home-invasion and sniper scnearios, as well as at least being aware of what one should do (e.g. offense or defense) in the case of a near-by mortar attack.

Can you heat your home for two weeks if the power and gas is cut off? It's worth mulling over now before the real fun starts.

Sadly, no enemy is dumb-enough to attempt a full-scale ground assault on sovereign American soil, so the odds of you being in a firefight of any substance are wildly remote (which bites because I could use the target practice).

But the other scenarios ARE ALREADY being played out in Israel, so it isn't much of a stretch to figure that they will try to bring them to bear on the Great Satan at some point in the future.

Not that it will amount to much, mind you, but they'll probably try all of the above, and one of the best defenses against all of those tactics is simply to have their "possibilities" of happening in your mind already so that any or all of them don't come as a complete and total surprise to you.

For instance, answer the question of "fight or flee" now, NOT when you see a herd of people either running down your streets or huddling in your airport terminal.

We've probably already seen most, if not all, of what they can and will do. Just look over to Israel. Every terrorist tactic can be successfully dealt with by the population at large, of course, but any of us who get caught in the fringes may actually have to take some actions on our own in order to be in as good shape as our society at large...

13 posted on 01/22/2003 8:20:45 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mossad1967
This is one reason why Madison wrote (as modified by the first Congress), "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed".

"militia" meant every abled bodied citizen (it now legally includes women, in some states, like Texas!) "well regulated" meant properly functioning, fit for its intended purpose.

The AlQaeidians and Saddamites might get in a few nasty licks, but after that, they are toast, probably along with many people who only look like them and have similar names. Such is life.

14 posted on 01/22/2003 8:23:43 PM PST by El Gato
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To: WarSlut; yall
Some of the 'toughest' looking gun show crowds I've ever seen are at the Cow Palace in SF.

And I've been going to shows all over the US for 40 years.
15 posted on 01/22/2003 8:27:18 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Southack
Ready on the coast.
16 posted on 01/22/2003 8:29:19 PM PST by blam
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To: Archangelsk
There's even a past precedent for allowing the use of deadly force for such a unit. During WWII, several U-boats were sunk by those "pesky, little yellow and red airplanes".)

There was an entire struture of "Home Guard" type units, guarding dams, power plants and such. Early on, there were even anti-submarine patrols by privately owned yachts, some of them armed!

17 posted on 01/22/2003 8:34:22 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Mossad1967
January 22, 2003 12:49

Brace for A Real War at Home

By Ed Offley

The next war with Iraq won't be a distant video-game conflict that we will watch live on CNN as in 1991.

It will likely be a two-front war, with the American heartland as the second battlefield.

That's the quiet but grave warning that senior military officials are beginning to sound as the Defense Department accelerates its plan to assemble nearly 200,000 troops in Southwest Asia preparing to invade and topple the Iraqi regime. Hundreds, if not thousands, of U.S. military personnel are also quietly preparing for combat right here at home.

This is a threat and a response issue that has quietly emerged in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, although it has attracted scant attention or interest from Congress, the news media or public at large.

So you heard it here first: Every American citizen should begin crafting his or her own survival plan in event of a sudden outbreak of terrorism and military combat on home soil (see below for access to a new federal publication on this topic).

In an interview published on Jan. 18 with The Colorado Springs Gazette, the general commanding the new U.S. Northern Command said he is preparing to scramble fighter jets over U.S. cities, deploy combat troops to counter attacks by Iraqi agents or terrorists, and to redeploy Navy warships to ports or coastal areas to repel seaborne incursions.

"I think we would be hard-pressed to come up with a scenario that we haven't thought about," said Air Force Gen. Ed Eberhart, who assumed leadership of Northcom when it formally came into being last Oct. 1.

Northcom today is actually only a headquarters unit with several hundred planners operating under a small (for the U.S. military) $81-million budget this year. It doesn't have ground troops, fighter jets or battleships assigned to it but can "gain" them as needed from the armed services.

Eberhart said that he and his command have been planning a coordinated response with as many as 50 other federal agencies on a large number of "nightmare scenarios" that he declined to specify. Never mind that: It doesn't take a U.N. weapons inspector to guess what they may involve - WMD terrorism with chemical, biological or radiological (if not nuclear) devices, mass terror strikes similar to the 9/11 attacks, shoulder-fired missile launches against civilian airliners or mass murder against "soft targets" such as we have seen in Bali, Pakistan and Tunisia in recent months.

Other federal officials in recent weeks have also dropped hints that elements of the U.S. Special Operations command have already deployed in key American cities such as New York and Washington, D.C., armed with sensors to detect the presence of biological or chemical agents. This would supplement the longstanding role of the Energy Department's Nuclear Emergency Search Teams that are trained to detect and locate emissions of nuclear materials that might be part of a terrorist bomb. One well-placed official recently said that NEST is also accompanied by a force of elite military commandos codenamed "Lincoln Gold" that is charged with "killing the bad guys" when they are found - even in places like downtown Manhattan or the nation's capital.

Eberhart last month announced that Northcom would conduct its first major field exercise in February as "a means for validating our plan" to defend the United States heartland in event an invasion of Iraq results in attacks here.

At that time, Eberhart said he had seen little evidence that al Qaeda "sleeper cells" inside the United States posed a threat to the country. "In terms of our ability to deal with that type of threat, I think each passing day we become more capable," the general told The New York Times.

Other federal officials are more sanguine: Attorney General John Ashbrook warned last summer that al Qaeda retains an "active presence in the United States, waiting to strike again," and that the United States is "at war with a terrorism network operating within our borders." Incoming Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge and FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III have also warned that federal agents are keeping constant surveillance on a number of people in the United States known to have contacts with al Qaeda.

So it appears that Northcom's planning is more than a theoretical exercise.

Footnote: The Federal Emergency Management Agency recently updated its citizen preparedness manual to include protective measures in event of terrorism or other attacks. The publication, "Are You Ready? A Guide to Citizen Preparedness," can be accessed at the FEMA website.

Ed Offley is Editor of DefenseWatch. He can be reached at dweditor@yahoo.com.

18 posted on 01/22/2003 8:40:52 PM PST by upchuck
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To: Southack
Israel is probably a valid example to look to.

Several terrorist attacks have been stopped there by armed civilians, including women, IIRC.

19 posted on 01/22/2003 8:41:30 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Indeed.
20 posted on 01/22/2003 8:42:55 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: blam
"Ready on the coast."

I never doubted it.

I'll do my part if they make it further inland.

21 posted on 01/22/2003 8:44:32 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Time to watch one of my favorite movies of all time, or at least teenagerhood: Red Dawn!
22 posted on 01/22/2003 8:49:40 PM PST by TheFilter
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To: Mossad1967
We've got the Island covered. No worries here.
23 posted on 01/22/2003 8:51:53 PM PST by islander-11
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To: Southack
If I need you, I'll call. Fly into here:

Dauphin Island Airport

24 posted on 01/22/2003 8:54:39 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
That's a great flight destination (been to it more than once).
25 posted on 01/22/2003 8:56:42 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mossad1967
Interesting article, but who is Attorney General Ashbrook?
26 posted on 01/22/2003 9:19:18 PM PST by CyberAnt (Syracuse where are you?)
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To: Southack
I worry more about an economy killer, such as 100# of anthrax spread an ounce at a time through the USPS, UPS, FEDEX, subways, airports etc.

The transportaion infrastructure would utterly collapse.

27 posted on 01/22/2003 9:23:38 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: visualops
I had some other materials, but not that particular FEMA guide, which looks to be pretty comprehensive. I downloaded the pdf's I wanted to print for my family. I'm also going to email the link to some other folks.

Just finished doing this and saw your post ;)

28 posted on 01/22/2003 9:31:01 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: TheFilter
Do you know that and Trilogoy of Terror have always terrified me. I saw Red Dawn to everything. Shoot I'm sitting here talking to you at my monitor right now saying I've always been scared of the Red Dawn scenario, because I know I would not fare as good as those kids, and could not handle the concentration camps like the adults.
29 posted on 01/22/2003 9:35:39 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Southack
I must agree that Israel is the model for what we can expect. I would recommend that everyone be prepared to respond to almost any emergency. As to a home invasion of this home I personally do not think any terrorist would like the result. Then again neither would I. Cleaning the stains off the hardwood floors and the white painted walls would be rather unpleasent and I really do not wish to have to repaint the interior.

I for one do not look forward to having to engage in a self defense scenario so I will be happy to get in all my target practice at the range. Anything else requires too much paper work. I personally tend to think most such terrorist incidents will tend to be concentrated in the areas of prime news coverage where the perception is that guns are not as easily available to the ordinary citizen. The terrorists can listen to news coverage and will tend to realize places like New York City, New Jersey, Massachusettes, Rhode Island, Maryland, DC, Illinois, and California are places where the legal restrictions on gun ownership maximize their effectivesness

30 posted on 01/22/2003 9:37:35 PM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Mossad1967
It will likely be a two-front war, with the American heartland as the second battlefield.
Yeah, right.

(What's this guy on?)

31 posted on 01/22/2003 9:40:39 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Mossad1967
It will likely be a two-front war, with the American heartland as the second battlefield.

Thanks to open borders, I have no doubt that there are thousands of sleeper agents in the United States.

It wouldn't take much for them to cause massive disruptions, even using relatively "dumb" techniques.

The damage would be even worse if strategic targets were hit, along the lines of what Jeff Head describes in "Dragon's Fury". I also have no doubt that the Chicoms already have networks in place to carry this out in the event of a future war over Taiwan.

Then they would laugh as our government passed even more laws to harass, not the terrorists, but the American people.

32 posted on 01/22/2003 9:48:10 PM PST by Mulder
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To: Southack
In addition we'll probably get hit by a few train derailments and highway-bridge collapses.
You're joking ... right?

Afghanistan has been nearly totally purged of Al Quieda (sp?), and we haven't had any terrorist events even a fraction of the size of 9/11 -

- yet tales of doom and gloom continue to persist?

Wouldn't it be common sense *to think* that any terrorist groups that could REALLY have acted effectively would have been identified by now - or have ALREADY engaged in some sort terroristic acts?

THIS was never foreseen by the 'terrorists' -

- 1) our invading Afghanistan as well as 2) the threatened invasion of Iraq -

- so MY MONEY would have been placed on a continued succession of ATTACKS commencing *after/coincident with* 9/11 ... not a supremely delayed response predicated on seeing the USA perform actions I (as a terrorist) would have seen as HIGHLY UNLIKELY:

the USA 1) invadiing Afghanistan, then 2) Iraq -

- nor would I (again as a terrorist) allow additional time to elaspse that would allow Law Enforcement within the US to identify and prepare as well as look for said 'terrorists' ...

33 posted on 01/22/2003 9:58:19 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Southack
I must take exception to the idea that the USA private citizen response will resemble that of the Israelis.

I do not imply any derogatives to the people of Israel.

Different cultures respond differently to organized terrorist activity.Ireland and England basked in the bloodshed for decades.Germany tried them in abstentia and shot them on sight.

Terrorists are not a new species.Terrorists attacking the civilians of the USA, in the CONUS, are now an indisputable fact of life.

I can relate to you now, that those in the military in the 1970-80s timeframe, who lived in foreign country's, imagined the time that this barbaric blight of humanity would hit the USA at home.

We have not the patience nor the level of statist inculcated guilt to tolerate the atrocity that other cultures have endured.

All hell will break out soon.It has been known for decades that the people of the USA will not play the "game" the same way the europeans did.

Hell is soon to be unleashed.The choice was made long ago, the extent of chaos is the only true subject of debate.

Lock and load.

34 posted on 01/22/2003 9:59:31 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Mulder
Thanks to open borders, I have no doubt that there are thousands of sleeper agents in the United States.

With ZERO training ...

What are you guys on anyway?

35 posted on 01/22/2003 10:02:42 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Southack
"We've probably already seen most, if not all, of what they can and will do. Just look over to Israel."

This is a good point. Isreal exists much closer to these fanitics than we do and yet they go on. That isn't to say we shouldn't have concerns. But when you boil it down, We are stronger than the muslim fanitics making threats that they can't pull off.

The danger comes from The Saddams in the world who are secular and have visions of being the next Hitler.

36 posted on 01/22/2003 10:05:20 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: _Jim
With ZERO training ...

I don't think you could be more wrong.

The militant islams have enough training to do some serious damage (see 9/11). And even without training, they could take advantage of the feminized American mindset and wreak havoc by doing any number of very simple things.

Hell, given this mindset they could probably shut down 20 airports by simply leaving a copy of "Guns and Ammo" in the respective terminal areas.

37 posted on 01/22/2003 10:08:23 PM PST by Mulder (Chicks and guns rule)
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To: Travis McGee
"The transportaion infrastructure would utterly collapse."

... be delayed by at least a day by the new irradiation (for mail) and inspections programs (for deliveries) put into place after such an anthrax attack as that described above.

38 posted on 01/22/2003 10:08:48 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Centurion2000
Yep. Well said.

I would PREFER to think that the ragheads CANNOT be so stupid...but, absent evidence to the contrary, who knows?

39 posted on 01/22/2003 10:09:07 PM PST by SAJ
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To: TheFilter
I love that movie! Red Dawn BTTT!
40 posted on 01/22/2003 10:12:22 PM PST by CARepubGal (Vegetarian meaneth bad hunter (from Ren Faire))
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To: sarasmom; _Jim
"All hell will break out soon.It has been known for decades that the people of the USA will not play the "game" the same way the europeans did. Hell is soon to be unleashed.The choice was made long ago, the extent of chaos is the only true subject of debate."

I fully agree. Nonetheless, the terrorists will make attempts here just as they have done in Israel.

But as I said in the first post above, such attempts in the end will amount to nothing for them.

41 posted on 01/22/2003 10:15:09 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mossad1967
Why not have a formal declaration of war so the fifth colunists can be dealt with?
42 posted on 01/22/2003 10:16:20 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: _Jim
Underscore Jim,

/1/ Can you tell us now who provided the weaponized anthrax used in the 3 gram total warning attack in 10/2001?

/2/ Can you tell us with certainty that the producer of that anthrax has not brought in and cached 100s of pounds of the same weaponized anthrax in the USA? (We know how good you feds are at keeping other illegal white powders out of the USA, right?)

/3/ Can you tell us what has happened to the missing TONS of Iraqi weaponized anthrax?

Answer those questions conclusively, and I will join you in scoffing at the idea of terrorist attacks in the USA in response to an attack on Iraq.

43 posted on 01/22/2003 10:17:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (--------------------------- WAR SOLVED HITLER! -------------------------)
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To: Southack
See 43.
44 posted on 01/22/2003 10:18:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Mulder
I don't think you could be more wrong.

WITHOUT continued training - those skills they (supposedly, now) LEARNED at some off-shore training camp will slowly but surely be LOST ...

To argue to the contrary is well, illogical and can only be done so by insane individuals.

I DON'T suppose you're even going to go near my assertion that if we *were* to have been attecked - it WOULD have happened ALREADY -

- rather than allowing Law Enforcement to PLAN and PREPARE for it as well as SEARCH for the terrorists.

THAT arguement is rather air-tight in it's logic too.

45 posted on 01/22/2003 10:22:16 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Travis McGee
APPLY my PREVIOUS posts concerning Law Enforcements PREPARING for ANY and ALL possible attacks and you have an air-tight logical arguement AGAINST the prescense of a force of 'terrorists' within our borders preparing for a 'delayed' response - of ANY kind.

Every day that they delay GIVES Law Enforcement ADDITINAL TIME to prepare AS WELL AS root out these bastards - no?

As to the Anthrax in this country - Stephen Hatfill. Guilty as sin IMB.

TONS of Iraqi Anthrax? Ha! I don't BELIEVE that they have quantities ANYWHERE near that large ...

46 posted on 01/22/2003 10:29:10 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
WITHOUT continued training - those skills they (supposedly, now) LEARNED at some off-shore training camp will slowly but surely be LOST ...

If you want to stake your safety on that idea be my guest.

To argue to the contrary is well, illogical and can only be done so by insane individuals.

LOL! I guess that makes me "insane".

I DON'T suppose you're even going to go near my assertion that if we *were* to have been attecked - it WOULD have happened ALREADY

You're assuming that we haven't been attacked again. There are many "incidents" ranging from plane crashes to food poisoning on cruise ships that have been dismissed as coincidences.

Furthermore, I believe other nations (like Red China) has sleepers here to act in case of war. They realize that they don't have the technology to defeat us in open warfare, so they will have to resort to "asymmetric warfare" to achieve their goals. Someone (Bill Gertz?) wrote a book about this a couple of years ago.

I intend to be prepared for whatever comes, as best I can. If others don't want to do the same, that's their business.

47 posted on 01/22/2003 10:31:35 PM PST by Mulder (Guns and chicks rule)
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To: Travis McGee
I guess I can't say this enough times, but I agree that the terrorists are going to make future attempts against us.

In sum, however, those attempts will do less to the U.S. than they have done to Israel (where Palestinians almost outnumber Jews).

Yes, if they still have Anthrax they will use it here, however, anthrax makes for a lousy weapon. For one thing, it isn't always fatal. For another, it's never instantly fatal. Hit a platoon with anthrax and they'll live to shoot you dead, and then they'll all go get hopped up on some major antibodies and most of them will survive the whole ordeal unscathed.

Look at the cruise ship attacks. The disease that is being spread on those cruise ships could easily be fatal, except that it is treatable and cureable with our advanced medicine.

And we've had what, some 25 more train derailments than normal since 9/11/01?? Big deal.

They've done what, take down one more jet (oops, I meant, the tail fell off by accident), and then fire some rockets at an Israeli aircraft in Africa? Again, pretty minor in the grand scheme of things.

They'll probably cook off a couple of their diehards in order to draw blood in a more public way, but such things are pretty trivial overall.

For instance, I talked to a life insurance muckity muck after 9/11 to ask how big of an impact it was going to have on his company. He explained, "we get 12,000 deaths per day in the U.S. on average, so 9/11/01 was only a 15,000 death day" for his industry, something that they shrugged off without even having to note on their 10K's as a material event.

We can handle whatever it is that the terrorists try to dish out.

The converse, however, is not true for them. They can't handle it if we unleash our nukes and erase the Middle-East. They can't handle it if we unleash our biological warfare agents and wipe out Africa and Asia. they can't handle it if we unleash our chemical and nerve agents to depopulate entire regions. Heck, they can't even stop our conventional military from going where ever we want to go, bombing whoever we want to bomb, occupying whatever we want to occupy, etc., etc., etc...

48 posted on 01/22/2003 10:47:15 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: _Jim
Well I hope you are right.

But it doesn't take a hard core "trained terrorist" to be given the address of a mini storage garage, load a crate of glass jars in his car, and begin mailing 100s of leaky FedEx, USPS and UPS packages, and tossing the anthrax jars onto subway tracks, etc.

No training at all, just the will to kill infidels.

And all Saddam has to do to "pull the trigger" is give the cache locations to Al Queda contacts.

Tell me where my logic is faulty. Is it that "it's impossible to smuggle a hundred pounds of an illegal white powder into the USA?" ROTFLMAO.

Perhaps it's "the FBI has found and arrested every Al Queda sleeper in the USA, and sealed the borders against any more sneaking in or flying in." ROTFLMAO.

Or is it "Saddam is not that mean, and would not prepare a Sampson revenge option for the time that we come to root him out?" Again, ROTFLMAO

Oh I forgot, "Hatfill did it all, and Atta went to Prague to talk about ice hockey with the Iraqi intelligence boss."

_Jim, you crack me up. With our Feds on the ball like you, it's no surprise that we found out about that hijacking plot in August of 2001 and averted what could have been a tragedy.

What? You feds didn't?

49 posted on 01/22/2003 10:48:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (DICTATORS LOVE PACIFISTS: THEY ARE THE EASIEST TO KILL.)
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To: Mulder
Good point. When we attack Iraq, it will provide ANY NATION OR GROUP with the perfect opportunity to commit infrastructure or other attacks against us, knowing that Saddam will be blamed.
50 posted on 01/22/2003 10:50:12 PM PST by Travis McGee (++------SEAL THE BORDER ALREADY! THERE'S A WAR ON!-------++)
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