The message from the Bush camp: 'It's war within weeks'

Guardian/UK ^ | 1/24/03 | Julian Borger in Washington, Ewen MacAskill and Simon Tisdall

[Dog]

The "Adlai Stevenson moment" has become Washington shorthand for the US presentation of its intelligence case. Stevenson was the US ambassador to the UN at the time of the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, who dramatically confronted the Soviet envoy with vivid aerial photographs of nuclear missiles being unloaded in Cuba.

[Dog]

Ping..

[PokeyJoe]

Go Go Bush. Down Down Saddam.

Go Go Bush. Down Down Saddam.

[Russell Scott]

I wonder how many European politicos are in the pocket of Arab oil money? They sure didn't scream about that useless Kosovo war.

[cmsgop]

Great Tag!

Mom Always Said,...Don't Play France in The House...........

[Born to Conserve]

"If you're not with us, you're against us."

[2nd Bn, 11th Mar]

The Russian foreign minister, Igor Ivanov, said: "Russia deems that there is no evidence that would justify a war in Iraq."

Folks, the WAR started in 2001 (really 1979)...Iraq is the opening of another front.
Semper Fi,

[Milwaukee_Guy]

Two to three weeks. Four weeks max.

Then it's "Boom, Boom, Out Go the Lights!"

The politics of the whole thing is going to be very interesting and dynamic during that time.

I just hope the President can make a very strong case, so all of our flacid "allies" can find cover by saying - "We didn't know it was -that- bad."

Remember when our UN Ambassador Jean Kirpatrick played the intercepted voice transmissions of the Soviet pilot as he shot down Korean Flight 007?

Now that was a "Great Moment" in UN history!

[Stefan Stackhouse]

The UNSC is Saddam's ace in the hole. What it is going to take to get him out is for the US to do the Stevenson thing, have the vote, get vetoed, and then Bush anounce that we are proceeding anyway, alone if need be. As soon as Bush makes that announcement, Saddam will be in exile no more than 36 hours later, because he will then know for sure that if he doesn't go into exile, he will be dead within 72 hours.

[Steve Eisenberg]

No one who knows this would talk to such a rag as the Guardian.

Bush and Blair will each keep his options open, until actually launching any invasion, because keeping options open is what a good leader does. The Guardian may have found some blabbermouth nobodies willing to tell them waht they want to hear, but that does not make this a legitimate news story.

To judge what Bush will do, read his speeches, and ignore the far-left Guardian.

[Archangelsk]

Go Go Bush. Down Down Saddam.

Go Go Bush. Down Down Saddam.

I'm willing to take some heat for the following, but I think everyone needs to get some perspective. I currently have 26 very close friends serving in the Gulf and in Afghanistan and they're the ones who are going to have to bear the brunt of the hell of war. So let me make one thing perfectly clear, I support the President, I want Saddam gone, I want the destruction of WMDs in Iraq, but George W. Bush will not hear one round fired in anger during this war.

This isn't a fricken football game and instead of being fan-like in the adoration of the President, how about wishing the troops good skill, luck and Godspeed. They're the ones that deserve it most.

[Irwin Corey PhD]

The US secretary of state, Donald Rumsfeld, wants Mr Bush to set a clear and imminent deadline. But Mr Powell, is resisting, asking for a little more time for diplomatic coalition-building.

So the Guardian thinks Rumsfeld is Secretary of State? I'd say the author is ....well...uninformed.

[paul51]

No one who knows this would talk to such a rag as the Guardian. To judge what Bush will do, read his speeches

Good points

[aculeus]

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[Steve Eisenberg]

I just hope the President can make a very strong case, so all of our flacid "allies" can find cover by saying - "We didn't know it was -that- bad."

Sorry, it does not matter to any non-English-speaking country, except maybe Israel and Kuwait, how strong the case is. Countries like France, Russia, and China insisted on Blix (rather than an honest Swede such as Rolf Ekeus) heading the inspectors because they do not want, and will not accept, a strong case.

[Michael.SF.]

Political Science:
by Randy Newman

No one likes us
I don't know why.
We may not be perfect
But heaven knows we try.
But all around even our old friends put us down.
Let's drop the big one and see what happens.

We give them money
But are they grateful?
No they're spiteful
And they're hateful.
Now Asia's crowded
And Europe's too old.
And Canada's too cold.
And South America stole our name.
Let's drop the big one; there'll be no one left to blame us.

Bridge:

We'll save Australia;
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo.
We'll build an all-American amusement park there;
They've got surfing, too.

Well, boom goes London,
And boom Paris.
More room for you
And more room for me.
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town.
Oh, how peaceful it'll be;
We'll set everybody free;
You'll have Japanese kimonos, baby,
There'll be Italian shoes for me.
They all hate us anyhow,
So let's drop the big one now.
Let's drop the big one now.

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Randy Newman, sage or prophet?

[rwfromkansas]

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[goodnesswins]

DAY of SUPPORT…Tues, 1/28/03....FLY your flags (U.S., British, Hungarian, Polish, Czech, Spanish, Quatar, Kuwaiti, Australian and Japanese one, too if you have them)....and put up your BUSH/CHENEY signs, (and the BIG W's on your SUV's) for the STATE of the UNION next Tuesday, Jan 28th, if you support the President, our MILITARY and the United States of America. PSST....pass it on.