[VietVet]

"Maybe we should have some kind of temporary guest worker program for those who are here only to work --- if we need them. Maybe like the visas we give to foreign students that lets them in legally for set periods of time, and they need to actually report to class."

This is the program which we are supposed to have now, and it is seriously abused. It has been estimated that most of the illegal aliens in our country today entered under a legal temporary visa or permit, and just stayed on and on after it expired.

VietVet

[FITZ]

I can see going door-to-door to find those who are on expired student or shopping visas but are illegally working but maybe we should replace the old system with a different system that lets in certain types legally to work but ends the access of government services (including schools and hospitals) by non-citizens or legal residents. I just don't see how a program that has agents going door-to-door looking for someone's illegal maid is going to be popular or is all that necessary.

[Pa' fuera]

This is the program which we are supposed to have now, and it is seriously abused. It has been estimated that most of the illegal aliens in our country today entered under a legal temporary visa or permit, and just stayed on and on after it expired.

I agree. You cannot let them in. Afterward, it is very difficult and very costly to get them out. The government's efforts are such a waste. We dedicate so many billions to guard the border, but on the other hand grant tourist visas and border crossing cards by the hundreds of thousands, which are used in lieu of a coyote. It's sheer stupidity. Every morning, the INS lets people into the country who they know are violating the terms of their entry documents (i.e. they are going to work, but they don't have authorization to work). Instead of pulling their border crossing permits and making them stay in Mexico, they wave them through. You can witness this at www.telnor.com Look under garitas to see a web cam of border traffic and how it changes during morning and evening drive time.