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Muslim Woman Sues To Get Florida ID Card
WKMG TV ^

Posted on 01/24/2003 11:57:56 AM PST by McGruff

A Muslim woman in Winter Park, Fla., who refused to remove her veil for a driver's license photograph last year is suing the state of Florida again.

Sultaana Freeman, 35, filed a civil lawsuit Wednesday after the state's Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles refused to issue her a state identification card.

Freeman applied for a state ID card in October.

Freeman was originally allowed to wear her veil, which only reveals her eyes, to obtain a Florida driver's license. However, the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles discovered her veiled face in a post-Sept. 11 check of its driver's licenses database.

When officials requested that Freeman take a driver's license photo without the veil, she refused. She said her religious beliefs dictated that she should not show her face to strangers or men outside her family. She also said that her constitutional rights were violated.

"I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males," Freeman said in an earlier Local 6 News report.

She sued when her driver's license was revoked in 2001.

Freeman's attorney, Howard Marks, has said that the government's stand on this matter is unconstitutional.

Local 6 News reported that Florida law states that license applicants be issued "a color photographic or digital imaged driver's license bearing a full-face photograph.

State officials said that agency rules prevent them from issuing cards with photographs of covered faces.

Freeman, who is an American-born converted Muslim, will go to trial in April for another lawsuit which seeks the reinstatement of her driver's license with a veil.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story



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Heard Sean Hannity discuss this story yesterday and couldn't believe it.
1 posted on 01/24/2003 11:57:56 AM PST by McGruff
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She said her religious beliefs dictated that she should not show her face to strangers or men outside her family.

Wouldn't those same religious beliefs dictate that she not drive a car either?

2 posted on 01/24/2003 12:00:40 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: McGruff
>>Freeman's attorney, Howard Marks, has said that the government's stand on this matter is unconstitutional.


It'd be really nice if no attorney would've taken her 'case'. What a numbskull idiot this woman is.

Send her to Saudi Arabia.
3 posted on 01/24/2003 12:00:47 PM PST by swarthyguy
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American-born converted Muslim

This is what bugs me about this un-American B*TCH. She's not even the real deal. You know what B*TCH - if you don't like our laws here, go on over to Iraq or Saudi - see how you like their treatment of women. Sorry for the rant - this "person" has been dragging this on for way too long.

4 posted on 01/24/2003 12:00:55 PM PST by Elkiejg
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To: McGruff
This is TRULY Stupid. If she refuses to remove the veil she should be refused a D.L. and an ID card and if she doesn't like it she can fight it all the way to the SCOTUS.
5 posted on 01/24/2003 12:02:43 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: McGruff
Freeman was originally allowed to wear her veil, which only reveals her eyes, to obtain a Florida driver's license.

The DMV is chock full of idiots.

6 posted on 01/24/2003 12:03:18 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: McGruff
Freeman's attorney, Howard Marks, has said that the government's stand on this matter is unconstitutional.

Should read:
Freeman's attorney, Howard Marks, has said that the government's stand on this matter is unconstitutional is an idiotic buffoon that gives other lawyers a bad name.

7 posted on 01/24/2003 12:03:53 PM PST by VRWCmember
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The right to drive on public roads is a privilege granted by the government of the states to their citizens under certain conditions.

A nine year old might as well sue on constitutional grounds for being denied the right to a driver's license.

8 posted on 01/24/2003 12:05:08 PM PST by wideawake
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When officials requested that Freeman take a driver's license photo without the veil, she refused. She said her religious beliefs dictated that she should not show her face to strangers or men outside her family

If she is so concerned about her Muslim beliefs here, then why is she getting a driver's license? Women aren't allowed to drive in many Muslim countries. I guess she's selective with her cultural indignation here.

But beyond that, the possibilities for jokes are endless here. I can see a lineup of chador-clad women if this woman is ever suspected of a crime. And I can just see a state trooper scrutinizing her license with a flashlight, going "What the ----?"

9 posted on 01/24/2003 12:06:45 PM PST by dirtboy
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My religion doesn't allow me to pay income taxes.
10 posted on 01/24/2003 12:06:50 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: McGruff
They should send her happy @$$ packing ... to the PRC; aka. the Peoples Republic of California
11 posted on 01/24/2003 12:07:36 PM PST by dagar
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"I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males," Freeman said in an earlier Local 6 News report.

Issuing a public statement? Where's my flogging stick?
12 posted on 01/24/2003 12:09:02 PM PST by ko_kyi
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To: McGruff
Freeman's attorney, Howard Marks, has said that the government's stand on this matter is unconstitutional.

There is absolutely no constitutional issue here. She will not win this case. The entire point of an I.D. card of any type is for the person to be identified.

If she should win, then nobody could be required to show their face on an I.D. You know, equal protection and everything.

13 posted on 01/24/2003 12:09:20 PM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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Can it not be considered dangerous to be driving with a diaper over your face?
14 posted on 01/24/2003 12:10:20 PM PST by Living Free in NH
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To: McGruff
Interesting that in Saudi Arabia, women are required to have photo IDs, without the veil!!!
15 posted on 01/24/2003 12:13:55 PM PST by Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
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What's the problem ... "Yeah officer that's her, the one in the burqa!" Makes a conviction easy! < /Sarcasm >



16 posted on 01/24/2003 12:15:42 PM PST by Tunehead54 (What's this thing do? Oh.)
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To: dirtboy
But beyond that, the possibilities for jokes are endless here. I can see a lineup of chador-clad women if this woman is ever suspected of a crime. And I can just see a state trooper scrutinizing her license with a flashlight, going "What the ----?"

How about a parody of the Visa check card commercial with Tiki and Rande Barber where the clerk keeps looking at Tiki and then at Rande and back to the DL and saying "but this could be him". Have a burka-clad muslim woman with the face covered present the check and the DL, while there are about a dozen other burka-clad muslim women standing around her. Then, have them all start arguing "Tastes Great" and "Less Filling", then have them rip off their burkas revealing bikinis as they have a massive catfight. Then the clerk can say "She should have used a Visa checkcard". Wait, I'm getting my commercials mixed up again.

17 posted on 01/24/2003 12:18:20 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: FreeTally
Maybe they would have to allow stocking masks for men.
19 posted on 01/24/2003 12:25:00 PM PST by johnb838 (deconstruct the left)
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To: McGruff
Freeman, who is an American-born converted Muslim, will go to trial
in April for another lawsuit which seeks the reinstatement of her driver's
license with a veil.


The only thing that freaks me out more than American males who convert to Islam...
are American women who convert to Islam.

Talk about a "persecution" complex!
They can't wait to get married to guys who would just love to move them to Pakistan, etc.,
and get wife #2, #3, and #4.

Of course, as far as I can see, logic/facts doesn't apply to these people.
I about spewed when I heard Shaq had quit Christianity because he was tired
of "partying" and thus converted to Islam.

I don't know where the heck the "Thou Shalt Party On, Dude" commandment is located
in The Holy Bible.

I wonder if Radio Shack is getting some heat about the new Islamic status of their
spokes-person...
it's just too "coincidental" that this news about Shaq and the Radio Shack commercials
about "we won't ask you your name and address anymore, promise!" just
started airing here in Los Angeles...
20 posted on 01/24/2003 12:35:17 PM PST by VOA
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