My Brother was Brainwashed by Communist Professors: A conservative Christian admires Noam Chomsky?

frontpagemag.com/PoliticallyRight.com ^ | January 27, 2003 | Daniel Larson

[RLK]

He began his statements by informing me that “I think Mitt Romney [the MA Republican Governor-elect] and George Bush are both clowns.” Now, he doesn’t exactly know why; they just “seem” like clowns.

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I don't know about Romney, but He's right concerning Bush. I say that as somebody who worked for Goldwater in 64 and who voted for Reagan twice.

[RLK]

She is working on an assignment now where the given and the basis of the discussion starts from the perspective that "the liberal media" is a myth and the assignment is to prove that the liberal bias does not exist.

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Leftists typically do not know any other view exists or lack the capacity to understand it. Consequently they report themselves as being news rather than being a bias.

[AmishDude]

OK, maybe you can answer this. I've heard his stuff in linguistics is no more complicated than Venn diagrams. Is it really impressive to somebody who knows any math at all?

[f.Christian]

Posted by f.Christian to Jeff Chandler

jc...

They have no business encouraging homosexuality, or forcing its acceptance upon students or faculty. The schools should teach the kids to behave like civilized people, that every individual should be treated with respect. Instead, they choose to indoctrinate them in leftist ideology. The entire school should be a safe zone for everyone. The whole idea of special protection for any one group is unAmerican.

4 posted on 01/26/2003 3:07 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ; -)

fC...

They have no business encouraging homosexuality (( evolutuion // atheism )) **, or forcing its acceptance upon students or faculty. The schools should teach the kids to behave (( think )) ** like civilized people, that every individual should be treated with respect. Instead, they choose to indoctrinate them in (( hard core )) ** leftist ideology (PC // BIAS )) ** . The entire school should be a safe zone (( NO brainwashing )) ** for everyone. The whole idea (( tyranny )) ** of special protection (( MONOPOLY )) ** for any one group (( privelegdes )) ** is . . . unAmerican - - - (( forced RELIGION establishment // vetting // witch hunts // purges // elites )) ** .

.. .. .. **...my additions !

[maxwell]

The first thing that strikes me is, either the writer dumbed his brother down to make a point, or this kid is awfully juvenile for having graduated from a fancy-shmancy "prestigious" institution. The kid apparently has no tangible convictions, can't justify what nebulous views he does have, or reasonably counter his brother's arguments. Sheesh. Go back to yer goldfish swallowing.

[Mortimer Snavely]

"...he was a typical conservative Christian who enjoyed going on youth group trips and playing his guitar. He also liked to listen to music such as the Grateful Dead and The Beatles."

This kid was wide open to weird, collectivist, counter-cultural drivel for a long time. He found some professors who articulated the things he's been ruminating about of all of his life, but never heard any other alternative ideas which confronted and refuted these half-baked adolescent notions. His post graduate ideas are just the icing on the cake.

[Mr. Mulliner]

It's not really that simple. Perhaps someone thought they had it figured out based on seeing some of his "tree diagrams" which were used to illustrate his earlier "Transformational Grammar," but I wouldn't characterize his stuff as simple.

Interestingly, Transformational Grammar, which really made Chomsky the best known linguist in the world, was later scrapped after criticism finally caused it to sort of crumble. But Chomsky put himself back on top with a new theory called "Government Binding Theory." It has nothing to do with politics.

Because Chomsky is so prominent in linguistics, he's also a favorite target. Many people have made a career out of opposing him and trying to win against him. He's so dominant in the field of linguistics, though, that even if someone outdid him in theory, few people would acknowledge it.

By the way, Chomsky is often asked, or used to be, to lecture on mathematics. I am told that there is even a branch of mathematics named after him.

[AmishDude]

By the way, Chomsky is often asked, or used to be, to lecture on mathematics. I am told that there is even a branch of mathematics named after him.

Don't believe it. I've never heard of such a thing. Thanks for the info.

[Stultis]

bump

[finnman69]

Siggghhhhhhh

sounds like my sister.

[js1138]

What's up with the Noam fetish?

No fetish. Noam is generally regarded as the most quoted author in the world. Woody Allen even wrote a short story about a guy who quotes Noam, like a poet, in order to get laid. Noam also thinks Castro is pretty cool because he eliminated prostitution in Cuba, except for that segment that services high ranking party members.

[js1138]

Chomsky is so prominent in linguistics, he's also a favorite target. Many people have made a career out of opposing him and trying to win against him.

I hope so. I consider his contribution to linguistics equal to Lysneko's contribution to genetics. Perhaps when he is dead some progress will be made.

[betty boop]

I can tell you right now that very few of the megacorporations taht are the 'major media' are 'virulently anti-capitalist'.

And I think you're absolutely right about that! Why don't the people who make such claims ever give an example; i.e., furnish evidence?

[Mr. Mulliner]

One thing that will definitely be part of Chomsky's legacy is the thrashing that he gave B. F. Skinner's behaviorism.

On top of that, of course, is his whole generative approach to linguistics. He and his followers are extremely arrogant and seem to think they invented language study itself. It pains me that they hardly recognize the tremendous contributions of many who went before them, especially those people who gathered real life language data from thousands of languages.

But I cannot deny the fact that generative linguistics is a contribution to our understanding of how language is learned and processed in the mind.

[Al B.]

Thanks for the heads up, Jeff. This is a timely subject for my wife and me, as our oldest son is 17. We've tried to raise him to be inoculated from the garbage he's gonna be subjected to in college, but as parents we'll always worry about it.

[k.trujillo]

Thanks for posting your thread for me dad, I'd like to hear from alot of other people too. The replies given are great though. It's not just my Social Problems teacher either. I'm taking 12 credits and my English professor AND History Professor both talk about Noam Chompsky and his "wonderful" ideas, how George Bush is leading this country into complete chaos and how "rich" conservatives control EVERYTHING in our media. They also state that most people in the United States think very liberally, etc. They encourage different views but obviously think everyone should believe as they do.

It seems like they take an anti-american stance on almost everything we do as a nation........of course if you ever come back with a different view, they want strong proven facts.....that's what I'm looking for.....where can I go to research that the media in fact IS liberally biased? Any help would be appreciated.............THANKS DAD!!!!!!

[js1138]

But I cannot deny the fact that generative linguistics is a contribution to our understanding of how language is learned and processed in the mind.

Would you be upset if I denied it?