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My Brother was Brainwashed by Communist Professors: A conservative Christian admires Noam Chomsky?
frontpagemag.com/PoliticallyRight.com ^ | January 27, 2003 | Daniel Larson

Posted on 01/27/2003 5:24:17 AM PST by SJackson

The advanced human brain is just about the only means that we have to secure our collective well-being. Humans are neither the strongest nor the fastest species, but we are the smartest. Therefore, it makes sense to educate ourselves. Without education, we would probably still have a life span of nine years and would spend our evenings sacrificing each other to the sun god. That’s why education is good. It does, however, have its bad points. For one, a college education costs about as much as a three story Victorian home. What is worse, higher education today usually requires students to sacrifice their brains— not all of their brains, just the part that allows them to use logic. So, today’s college grads have to pay back loans every month until retirement and they also have to forfeit the most important part of their brains— that’s a pretty high price for a college degree.

Perhaps I’m wrong. Maybe college isn’t to blame for the political silliness of so many students. Stupid political decisions— like voting for Ralph Nader— could be attributed to outside factors, such as immaturity or malnutrition. Or it could be that the liberalized boys and girls who are being turned out of the Marxist assembly line known as academia have been liberal their whole lives. Maybe their parents named them “Moonbeam” in 1975 and are still anti-establishment hippies who suck down marijuana cigarettes with their kids every weekend. I have had friends who come from similar circumstances. Another reason that kids come out of college dazed and confused could be alcohol and hallucinogens. Nothing kills a strong study habit like a hit from a three foot glass bong. Nothing, of course, except a fat, old professor who convinces you to chain yourself to the front gate of a power plant.

Are colleges and universities turning young people into spineless leftists who are afraid to use logic? Perhaps even as you read this you are thinking of a friend or family member who used to make sense and receive commonly appreciated ideas with a rational thought process, but now, upon liberating himself in academia, has accepted the notion that possessing a strong opinion is bad, and standing up for what you believe is not right, if it’s possible that somebody might take offense. Do you know somebody like this? Does it frustrate you? Do you try to drag them back with conventional wisdom only to watch them recoil like disease recoils from cure? Do they respond to your logical statements by accusing you of being too rigid and aggressive? Is there still hope?

I know somebody who fits this description to a tee— my brother— I‘ll call him Jack. My little brother, I love him. He can whip a six-string guitar like Bruce Coburn, write phat lyrics like Busta Rhymes, and furnish his entire wardrobe by shopping at the Salvation Army. At twenty-four, he’s visited monasteries in France and temples in India, just for the hell of it; just to see what they’re like. He’s driven all over America; he’s hiked all around California and Oregon— all without ever asking for any doe from mom and dad, without even asking for a ride to the airport. My father has never gotten a phone call like “We’re broken down in Wyoming. Can you come and change a flat?” My brother is a very accomplished guy. He earned a bachelors degree in philosophy from a prestigious college, and he now works as a teacher for autistic children. He’s basically been on his own since he went off to college, where, of course, he completely lost his mind.

Before he departed for college, he was a typical conservative Christian who enjoyed going on youth group trips and playing his guitar. He also liked to listen to music such as the Grateful Dead and The Beatles. He enjoyed hanging out with his friends, reading books and doing normal things. But then he went to college and came under the influence of a radical professor who is a former student of the intellectual fraud and unrepentant leftist, Cornel West. This professor became Jack's mentor, inviting him to her house for dinner and even arranging for him to join her in a protest of the World Trade Organization that took place in Boston’s financial district. As time went on, and Jack got closer to graduation, I noticed that the little comments he would make were more and more left-wing. Now, my youth-group loving little brother has been transformed into a young man who gets his jollies by studying the likes of Noam Chomsky and Richard Rorty.

Recently I caught up with him and convinced him to do an interview for this magazine. When I told Jack that I wanted to write a column about his liberal convictions for this cutting edge conservative publication, he immediately cried foul, citing his belief that he is not a liberal at all— he simply doesn’t know what he thinks. When he informed me of this, I was disappointed. I had already agreed to write the article, but now my interview with Jack was not getting off on the right foot. I was quickly reassured that the article would be written, however, when Jack realized that the floor was his and I would not be challenging any of his ideas. That, of course, would be an insensitive thing for me to do.

He began his statements by informing me that “I think Mitt Romney [the MA Republican Governor-elect] and George Bush are both clowns.” Now, he doesn’t exactly know why; they just “seem” like clowns. My thought: “you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover.” His thought: “Well, if either of those two guys are on the cover of a book then I ain’t buying that book.” Touché.

Still unconfident in his political knowledge, he told me that if I really want to interview a liberal then there are plenty of guys in his commune who fit the bill. (I suppose it isn’t really a commune, but he has about a million roommates and none of them own beds). He also told me that he often listens to the socialist radio station, National Public Radio (NPR), but he doesn’t think of it as left-wing, he just considers it normal. Moreover, he thinks that conservative programs are just out there bashing anyone who doesn’t agree with their way of thinking. He’s heard the Boston area conservative radio host Jay Severin do this, and he has never listened to Rush Limbaugh, but he has “heard of him.” According to Jack, everyone in the world should just meet in the middle and avoid extremes— the middle apparently being the political line of NPR.

Jack says that he is all for finding alternative forms of energy, and that drilling for oil in the pristine Alaska wilderness “doesn’t make sense” to him. This desire to find alternative forms of energy is popular among those on the left. But, like most rank and file leftists, Jack doesn’t have any suggestions as to what “alternative forms of energy” might mean. Perhaps we should all rely on our own fat. The U.S. is, after all, the fattest nation on earth. The average American is twenty pounds overweight. That is caloric energy stored as blubber. I’m sure that we could figure out a way to harness this energy and avoid disturbing the sacred Alaskan caribou. Maybe if liberals took science classes instead of studying about “oppression,” and “women” they would have figured this one out already.

Unlike most lefties, my brother takes a firm stand against abortion. This is a brave position to take considering that just about anyone in the country can be pro-abortion without ever having to worry about defending that position. Teddy Kennedy, the chubby, alcoholic Senator from Massachusetts, for example, counts himself as pro-abortion as well as Catholic. How does this work? Who knows? Even though it is logically impossible for someone to be both a Catholic and pro-abortion, Kennedy gets away with it because he’s not expected to be logical— he is, after all, a liberal Democrat.

During our conversation, Jack briefly mentioned that he does not think that nuclear weapons are good. That’s his stand on the nuclear weapons issue.

Jack then began complaining, and rightfully so, that the state program that he works for is holding out part of his check for some kind of retirement fund. He is only twenty-four and is clearly not going to be working in the same job until retirement. He thinks that this withholding is “stupid” and “unfair.” Conversely, he thinks that there should be more state funding for social services. He obviously hasn’t figured out that part of that money will be coming from his paycheck. Maybe someday he’ll make this connection.

One of the social services that he firmly believes the federal government should provide for American citizens is health insurance. I’m not quite sure, but I think that this belief might be derivative of his own lack of health insurance— just a hunch.

How about this for an irrational, baseless fear? Jack mentioned in passing that he has a terrible fear of “large corporations.” I have heard of this fear before. Some experts actually consider it to be a clinical problem— like claustrophobia, or arachnophobia. It is typically referred to as “corporatephobia.” Many a college student has been known to come down with this illness. Currently, Jack is only in the beginning stages of the disease, suffering from such symptoms as a strong desire to read anything by Noam Chomsky and an unexplainable pull toward masculine women who badmouth capitalism. In its later stages, this illness usually culminates in a trip to Seattle, where the afflicted person breaks storefront windows and flips the bird to anyone wearing a suit.

Throughout the interview, Jack was dead set against me attaching a political moniker to him. I think perhaps many folks who are politically astute would call him a “liberal” or a “leftist.” But Jack reflexively pulls away from such titles. Like many brainwashed college grads, he displays ignorance and weakness as a sign of intelligence and sophistication. The rationale is, “Hey, I’m so confident and secure in my intelligence and inner strength, I don’t have to make sense or know the answers, or have the testicular muscle to take a stand. But just don’t ever call me a conservative.” Of course, most campus leftists wear their political label as a badge of honor. But some, like my brother, are too afraid, for whatever reason, to admit that they are further left than Karl Marx.

Go figure.


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1 posted on 01/27/2003 5:24:17 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
a strong desire to read anything by Noam Chomsky

Is he all they have? What's up with the Noam fetish? (My theory is that it's the name)

2 posted on 01/27/2003 5:35:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: SJackson
"Stupid political decisions— like voting for Ralph Nader— could be attributed to outside factors, such as immaturity or malnutrition"

Wasn't there an article about a student who caught scurvy while in college?
3 posted on 01/27/2003 5:43:52 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: SJackson
Big brother needs to invite 'little brother' to dinner with David Horowitz. . .

. . . and encourage him to visit 'frontpagemazazine.com'.

. . .of course, David's 'Radical Son' (and any of his other books would be helpful too) should be required reading for any student heading off to a Liberal Indoctrination Center as well. . .

4 posted on 01/27/2003 5:45:52 AM PST by cricket
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To: SJackson
He earned a bachelors degree in philosophy from a prestigious college

All major cities have hundreds of philosophy majors, most of them driving cabs.

the state program that he works for

Figures. All the cab companies must have been full up.

5 posted on 01/27/2003 5:54:49 AM PST by metesky
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To: SJackson
But then he went to college and came under the influence of a radical professor who is a former student of the intellectual fraud and unrepentant leftist, Cornel West. This professor became Jack's mentor, inviting him to her house for dinner and even arranging for him to join her...

Which goes to show how important the personal element is. People, especially kids, will believe what you say more readily because of how you are with them than because of how true it's supposed to be. Those who really want to help them grow up will then guide them into critical thinking. Others, like the leftist professor above, will just use their enthusiasm to make acolytes.
6 posted on 01/27/2003 6:11:53 AM PST by aruanan
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To: SJackson
He thinks that this withholding is “stupid” and “unfair.” Conversely, he thinks that there should be more state funding for social services. He obviously hasn’t figured out that part of that money will be coming from his paycheck. Maybe someday he’ll make this connection.

There's still reason to be optimistic, just that realization alone has led to many liberal to conservative converts.

7 posted on 01/27/2003 6:15:37 AM PST by Brett66
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To: SJackson; joanie-f; Dukie; JohnHuang2; k.trujillo; Travis McGee; Critter; Lurker; harpseal; ...
This is happening all over the nation.

I have my oldest daughter (one of our five children), ho is a mother of one and expecting number two, who is also taking some part time classes here at BSU (Boise State University - but perhaps more appropriately named BS -U when you hear what they are teaching) while her husband goes full time there completing a Computer Science degree.

Anyhow, she is finishing some general ed requirements towards a marketing degree and is enrolled in a "social problems" class. She is being taught exactly the same garbage dexcribed in this article ... that abject marxists/leftists are somehow God's gift to mankind, that Fidel Castro is the savior and hero of cuba and welcomed by the vast majority of cubans and only the "capitalist" rich exploiters have fled that country. (Luis, pipe in here)

She is working on an assignment now where the given and the basis of the discussion starts from the perspective that "the liberal media" is a myth and the assignment is to prove that the liberal bias does not exist. They have been given a pamphlet/book and a web site (www.fair.com) to use to prove this thesis, indicating that somehow, because rich people own the media, that they are necessarily pure capitolists and therefore can have no "liberal" bias. My indication is that the bias is "Unamerican" because they embrace the socialist, marxist ideals leading this nation and its economy away from the principles and true free markety principles the nation was founded upon.

This is true whether they seek to bring the American populace economically down by foisting abjectly socialist/marxist programs upon us through useful idots of all sorts (rabid environmentalists, PETA, socialists, marxists, etc), or if they seek to do so by establishing a bastardized world market economy that destroys the self-reliant, independent, soveriegn nature of America's free market ... exporting and exploiting that system for their own global interests. Both efforts are part and parcel of the same program ... to bring down this great Republic IMHO and try and confuse Americans in the process.

Being my daughter, and being raised as she has been, she is determining to prove just the opposite and willing to risk her grade in the process while she proclaims the truth. I am proud of her, but digusted at the wholly blatant efforts (which I have known of for many years because it also extends down into primary and secondary education where we have fought it) to undermine and castagate the principles that made this nation what it is.

I am going to flag my daughter (and many others) to this thread (who is herself a new FReeper) and hope she gets some good dialogue with patriotic/conservative/liberty loving Americans (besides her dad) who know the truth and will give her advise and direction in her efforts. ... Kate, there is likely to be all sorts of good advise coming your way, perhaps sprinkled with some things you may not agree with. That's fine, filter and sift through it all in the thought process to defend and stand up for what you KNOW it right.

SJackson, thanks for posting this ... it is an issue and problem we all need to be aware of. The attempt continues in great force to destroy any vestage of faith, American ideals and foundational principles in our youth ... but those raised properly will ultimately rise above it as the teachings of their youth perculate to the fore as a result of real life experiences which so many of these supposed "great thinkers" and tyrant wannabe's or collaborators are totally devoid of.

JEFF

8 posted on 01/27/2003 6:16:57 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: SJackson
I had to read a lot of Noam Chomsky when I was in school, but that was all linguistics. His political tripe was never assigned in any classes I had. But his influence on other students and nearly all the faculty was unmistakeable.
9 posted on 01/27/2003 6:17:20 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner (I could be a really good Christian if other people didn't mess me up all the time. - Adrian Plass)
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff,

Just have Kate give her "professor" an autographed copy of your book. The resulting spike in blood pressure will cause a stroke . . .

No more problem "professor".

:-)
10 posted on 01/27/2003 6:31:23 AM PST by Mr_Magoo (Single, Available, and Easy)
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To: Mr_Magoo
LOL!

Maybe he could get through all five volumes and help fund my next book which I will call "The Stand at Klamath Falls - How rural western farmers stood up against entrenched environmentalism and the Federal Government and won.".

Actually, many of these professors profess to be libertarians and believe that current conditions are as bad as Clinton. This one guy even had the audacity to call Clinton a "conservative".

I believe there are many disconcerting and worriesome issues with current conditions. It is a VERY dangerous time. That is why I am writing the Draogn's Fury Series books.

My advise to my daughter has been to just skip over the "labels" of conservative, liberal, etc. and focus wholly on whether the principles being pushed by these various groups support those principles that underly the constitutional republic we have based on faith, morality, self-reliance, independence, soveriegnty and the unalienable rights of the individual. If the principles being espoused do not, then from whatever direction they come they are "Un-American" and destructive to those values and principles that made eour Republic and way of life what it is (or at least what it should be).

Best

11 posted on 01/27/2003 6:57:00 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: cricket
David's 'Radical Son' ... should be required reading for any student heading off to a Liberal Indoctrination Center as well....

Agreed, cricket. It is a great and, at times, deeply moving and poignant book (as for instance, when he writes about his father, an unreconstructed Communist). Horowitz was somehow able to recover from the madness of his radical Yippie years. So it is reassuring to note that the disease of cultural Marxism is something one can recover from. Horowitz certainly did!

12 posted on 01/27/2003 6:58:44 AM PST by betty boop
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To: Jeff Head
"RAT Professors Poison Minds of Yutes!!"

"Humans are neither the strongest nor the fastest species, but we are the smartest. Therefore, it makes sense to educate ourselves. Without education, we would probably still have a life span of nine years and would spend our evenings sacrificing each other to the sun god. That’s why education is good. It does, however, have its bad points. For one, a college education costs about as much as a three story Victorian home. What is worse, higher education today usually requires students to sacrifice their brains— not all of their brains, just the part that allows them to use logic. So, today’s college grads have to pay back loans every month until retirement and they also have to forfeit the most important part of their brains— that’s a pretty high price for a college degree."

The RadicalRaightWingWhacko PARENTS who pay their children's tuition can END PROFESSOR TENURE, by aggressively lobbying the UniversityEFFETEELITE who allow this anti-American, PRO-Communism Brainwashing to occur!!

It's up to US to stop allowing our children to be handicapped by IgnorantDOLTLib'ralProfessors' skewed interpretations of reality!!

FReegards...MUD

13 posted on 01/27/2003 7:07:16 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Slick Willie!!!)
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To: Jeff Head
Being my daughter, and being raised as she has been, she is determining to prove just the opposite and willing to risk her grade in the process while she proclaims the truth. I am proud of her, but digusted at the wholly blatant efforts (which I have known of for many years because it also extends down into primary and secondary education where we have fought it) to undermine and castagate the principles that made this nation what it is. Go Kate!!!

Thanks for the ping JH. I'm going to have to come back and be more thorough later.

14 posted on 01/27/2003 7:19:45 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: SJackson
From the description of his "before" life, this sounds like a natural transition.
15 posted on 01/27/2003 7:22:28 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: Jeff Head
There is so much evidence---hard-core, scientific evidence---that the media is overwhelmingly biased to the left that it is preposterous to begin with the "premise" that the media is not. Lichter, Rothman, and Lichter have done two studies showing the media elites voted OVERWHELMINGLY for Dem candidates since 1992; Peter Brown, an editor for the Orlando Sentinel, conducted a LARGE study in which he found the media was overwhelmingly single, unmarried, non-church-attenders, and much more likely to have an "elite" lifestyle; and we have several "content analysis" studies of LEXIS/NEXIS that shows that terms like "hard left," "left-winger," "ultra-left" or "ultra-liberal" NEVER appear in major news stories, but terms like "hard right," "ultra conservative," and so on appear CONSTANTLY.

MERELY the distorted headlines show the bias. Instead of, "Iraq guilty of violating UN Resolutions," it is, "Bush challenged to show Iraq guilty . . ." I could go on and on.

The problems with the media are INSTITUTIONAL and METHODOLOGICAL---the commitment to a relativistic notion that there is no truth, and can BE no truth which means that "every issue has two sides." In other words, "A" says the earth is round," well there MUST be "another side," even if it is demonstrably proven that the "earth is round." Moreover, the notion that just because the Dems say it, we must print it is manifestly biased. Notice that they do not print everything the National Right to Life committee puts out, or the Libertarian Party, or even the Green Party. I am working on a book on this, about half finished. Feel free to contact me for further info.

16 posted on 01/27/2003 7:22:53 AM PST by LS
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To: SJackson
It sounds like it's time for an "intervention." We need to take some lessons from the cult deprogrammers; that's the level we're at these days.
17 posted on 01/27/2003 7:25:45 AM PST by Doug Loss (If you can't think for yourself, please don't let others think for you.)
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff this sort of liberal brainwashing is rampant throughout American Colleges and Universities. The brainwasjed are the cannon fodder of the leftist elite but they think they are the elite. It needs to change but I do not see change happening. The liberals attract the alienated because they say they represent free thought but there is no freedom on the left only liscentiousness and conformity to their ideaology.
18 posted on 01/27/2003 7:25:50 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: SJackson
He also told me that he often listens to the socialist radio station, National Public Radio (NPR), but he doesn’t think of it as left-wing, he just considers it normal. Moreover, he thinks that conservative programs are just out there bashing anyone who doesn’t agree with their way of thinking. He’s heard the Boston area conservative radio host Jay Severin do this, and he has never listened to Rush Limbaugh, but he has “heard of him.”


Something I'm sure you have noticed over the years is that those on the left really do live in a very small world. They would never be caught dead with a copy of National Review, or listening to "rightwing" talk radio. It's like they think they'll get contaminated and suddenly become a carding member of the KKK or something.
OTOH many on the right have a much more wide-rangeing in their reading.
19 posted on 01/27/2003 7:33:05 AM PST by Valin (Place Your Ad Here!)
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To: SJackson
read later
20 posted on 01/27/2003 7:34:00 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Jeff Head
Kudos to you and your daughter! Hang in there!

My daughter is a born again Christian, conservative, young earth creationist and carries a concealed weapon. She works in biotechnology with agnostics/atheists, liberals, evolutionists who support gun control. LOL! We laugh that she is in the "belly of the beast" - but figure it's God's will.

21 posted on 01/27/2003 7:42:22 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jeff Head
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/828480/posts


Jeff, have Kate check out this link, then maybe do an additional Google search on Antonio Gramsci. It was he who laid out the cultural Marxist game plan whose express purpose is to destroy Western civilization. His programme is utterly cynical and life-denying; but it has been embraced by the American Leftist elite. Famously on the Gramscian agenda, promotion of: the "women's movement," abortion on demand, sexual liberation, gay rights, same-sex marriage, the "peace movement," the graduated income tax/death tax, virulent anti-capitalism, hatred of nationalism, contempt for the family, contempt for personal responsibility, etc., etc. Now if there is no Leftist bias in the media, then how come the major media in all formats patently supports each and every of the above items on Gramsci's "wish list?"

Gramsci sought to destroy the values and institutions of Western culture; the same values and institutions what have made America an historically great sociopolitical order. To the extent that editorial boards and academics are obviously "closing ranks" around the Gramscian itemized agenda, how can it be said that there is no "Left-wing" bias?
22 posted on 01/27/2003 7:48:47 AM PST by betty boop
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To: aruanan; Mudboy Slim
Precisely.

The easy remedy is to teach your kids how to think critically. Critical thinking protects against the strangulating, tentacular vines of Ivy.
23 posted on 01/27/2003 8:03:53 AM PST by Mia T
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BFL
24 posted on 01/27/2003 8:06:49 AM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: Free the USA; ATOMIC_PUNK; backhoe; Libertarianize the GOP; Carry_Okie; 2sheep; 4Freedom; TxBec; ...
ping
25 posted on 01/27/2003 8:17:42 AM PST by madfly
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To: Mia T; Cyber-Band; sultan88; FreeTheHostages; scholar
"The easy remedy is to teach your kids how to think critically."

IMHO, that is PART of the solution, but by no means a "remedy"...remember when our parents sent US to college, as innocent skulls full of mush?! What would yer parents have said if you rejected the teachings of yer Lib'ral professors and the Lib'ralProfessor down-graded you for it?! My parents wouldda told me to do what it took to git my grades back up...my kids will be treated differently, starting with my PTA Participation and Alumni Oversight of my alma maters, and continuing through my kids' college educations!! Our job as parents does not end.....EVER!!!

FReegards...MUD

BTW...Could not find anybody named 'liberalprofessor'

BTW2..."Critical thinking protects against the strangulating, tentacular vines of Ivy."

Yep...Collectivist Thought/Ideology is Rationally-Unsupportable!!

26 posted on 01/27/2003 8:17:58 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Slick Willie!!!)
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To: Aquinasfan; SJackson; Jeff Head
At 24 I was just like this kid. I read Chomsky, I read Edward Said, I read Ramsey Clark, I read Jim Hightower... I also read Molly Ivins, Gloria Steinem, Naomi Wolf, Virginia Woolf, Women who RUN with the Wolves (well I read a little of it)...

The Axis of Sanity that saved me were Florence King, Ayn Rand, and Free Republic. Yes really. If you want to save this boy, you can either go the Christian route with C.S. Lewis, or the Objectivist route with Ayn Rand. Rand hit me like a bucket of cold water and the spell was broken. After that it was only a matter of time before I hunted up Milton Friedman, Dinesh D'Souza, David Horowitz, etc... Good luck.

27 posted on 01/27/2003 8:23:38 AM PST by wizardoz (Bomb Hollywood!)
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To: wizardoz
If you want to save this boy, you can either go the Christian route with C.S. Lewis, or the Objectivist route with Ayn Rand.

She had the same effect on me and led me to Aristotle and Aquinas, although I now think that she was as mad as a hatter. The Lord can work even through people like Ayn.

28 posted on 01/27/2003 8:34:35 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: wizardoz
"SlickWillie FOOLS!!"
(To be sung to Eric Clapton's "Bellbottom Blues")

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Right ain't gonna lose this feeling!!
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Are ya gonna FReep Slick ev'ry time ya can?!
I dare ya!! DO IT!! 'Cuz...
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Right must Indict Left's Sleaze!!
We can't let Clinton Sanction RAPE!!
In their hearts, Libs don't like RAPE!!

Left's all Wrong, but We're ALL Right!!
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RightWing is Strong, and We'll Win The Fight!!
RATScum best git usedta LOSIN'!!

Do you wanna help MUD Dethrone Left's Whore?!! Do You?!!
Are ya gonna FReep Slick ev'ry time ya can?!
I dare ya!! DO IT!! 'Cuz...
We can't let Slick git away!!
Right must Indict Left's Sleaze!!
We can't let Clinton Sanction RAPE!!
In their hearts, Libs don't like RAPE!!

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Do you wanna help MUD Dethrone Left's Whore?!! Do You?!!
Are ya gonna FReep Slick ev'ry time ya can?!
I dare ya!! DO IT!! 'Cuz...
We can't let Slick git away!!
Right must Indict Left's Sleaze!!
We can't let Clinton Sanction RAPE!!
In their hearts, Libs don't like RAPE!!

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Are ya gonna FReep Slick ev'ry time ya can?!
I dare ya!! DO IT!! 'Cuz...
We can't let Slick git away!!
Right must Indict Left's Sleaze!!
We can't let Clinton Sanction RAPE!!
In their hearts, Left don't like RAPE!!
We can't let Clinton Sanction RAPE!!
In their hearts, RATS don't like RAPE!!

Mudboy Slim

BTW...Bill Clinton Shall Be Dethroned When Leftist RATS Reject His Faux Populism!!
Until then, the DemonRAT Party will continue to IMPLODE!!!

RE-IMPEACH. CONVICT. DETHRONE.
DISBAR. DE-PENSION. DE-LEGITIMIZE.
INDICT. CONVICT. IMPRISON. DISCARD KEY.

Quite Sincerely...MUD

1 posted on 11/20/2002 5:45 AM EST by Mudboy Slim

29 posted on 01/27/2003 8:45:12 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Slick Willie!!!)
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To: SJackson
he immediately cried foul, citing his belief that he is not a liberal at all? he simply doesn?t know what he thinks

A true definition of well over 50% of people who would be classified as 'liberal' by their actions. (The remainder are just evil anti-Americans)

30 posted on 01/27/2003 8:52:25 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Jeff Head
Reading Herbert Marcuse in college mad me depressed for a year. The failed ideologies of the Left have an inordinate amount of attraction to the professors who came of age in an era of unprecedented criticism of everything American.

More power to the apple of your eye. Best wishes to her and i'm sure she has a thick skin to put up with the invective that'll be hurled against her.

Shields UP!
31 posted on 01/27/2003 9:05:47 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: betty boop
"So it is reassuring to note that the disease of cultural Marxism is something one can recover from. Horowitz certainly did!"

. . .you are right that it is a 'disease'. . .and bump for David on his overcoming. . .

. . .and there are a number of 'recovering Marxists' out there; David even started a group called 'Second Thoughts' where they can speak freely.

Amazing, what it takes to disengage from these people!

32 posted on 01/27/2003 9:08:36 AM PST by cricket
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To: betty boop
"Horowitz was somehow able to recover from the madness of his radical Yippie years."

. . .something else occured to me, reading 'Radical Son'. . .David had a developed sense of 'conscience' which often made him uncomfortable as he was growing up. . .his conscience is what finally forced his break with the Panther's; that and his honest intellectualism.

. . .a really good Marxist cannot afford a conscience; and it must be educated out of them should it be there.

A good Marxist must be the ultimate 'Utilitarian'; end justifying any means determining their choices.

33 posted on 01/27/2003 9:23:51 AM PST by cricket
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To: SJackson
this same thing happened to my older brother. i told him not to study philosophy. he's very impressionable. now he talks about how all life is sacred and what gives us the right to clear land for our houses. *puke* i think he'll be alright after he gets out of college, though.

it doesn't happen to everyone. my leftist professors have driven me farther right. =)
34 posted on 01/27/2003 9:35:26 AM PST by Nayt2 (this must be new)
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To: Jeff Head
Regards to you and your daughter. She's got a tough fight ahead, and she's going to have t obe strong and resolute as she stands up against these smug, self-assured marxist monsters.

Hewing t oa 'first principles' based approach is what these disciples of Gramsci hate the most. They absolutel yobhor being called to account on that score. Your daughter must learn to call them on the ad-hominem attacks that'll surely be hurled at her. A wry observation that her opponent has descended into name calling, and is that the best they can do works wonders. Getting them to openly admit and disclose the pedigree of their ideas is also a wonderful tactic. Call them on factual errors, as there will be plenty of those.

Takes a quick and agile mind, but I know that you've raised your daughter well and that she comes from a line of warriors and patriots. I'll be glad to help in any way that I can.
35 posted on 01/27/2003 9:36:19 AM PST by Noumenon
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To: wizardoz; BARBRA STREISAND
Regarding the addendum to your name (bomb Hollywood), someone will...and with multiple-warhead precision, all thanks to the clintons. Poetic justice lives.
36 posted on 01/27/2003 9:44:04 AM PST by Mia T
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To: SJackson
My best memory, an "Ethics" course. An ultra-left kook professor who could not admit so. As an intimidation factor, the "Ethics" course text book defined conservatives as "closed minded!"
37 posted on 01/27/2003 10:21:48 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Convict pedophile wannabe traitor Ritter thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829655/posts)
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To: Jeff Head
Thanks for the heads up Jeff.

I'll stay around this thread.

38 posted on 01/27/2003 10:41:31 AM PST by the irate magistrate
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To: wizardoz; Aquinasfan; SJackson; Jeff Head
Funny. I loved Aquinas, and I never was able to wade through Rand, but I agree with most of Rand's philosophy.

I actually think Chomsky is valuable--for the far right. His perspective is sometimes so far to the left that it encourages others on that wing to contemplate the evils of government involvement in anything. After all, there has never been an American President Chomsky approved of, ever, to my knowledge. All have been corporate tools. So how long can you politically stand on the left with a guy whose philosophy is that everyone's sold out? It's hard to dance with someone who tells you that the music is always cryptofascist. LOL.

The more you're exposed to government intervention in anything, the less you agree with it in any form, in my experience. That is one public service Numb Chimpsky does provide our youth. That, and GREAT comic relief. I'd love to see him Q&A'd in a public forum on when intervention would be appropriate. Or heckled.

Ah, subtle heckling. One of the best experiences of my life was taking advantage of the Q&A session for Oliver Stone and turning the discussion from his political ramblings to a much more appropriate topic. After being beaten to the mike and forced to listen to a young lefty suck up in question form, my turn came second, and after an appropriate double entendre'd buildup, confessing how I found his career had started at a lofty height, and how pleased I was that he had launched the career of one of Hollywood's finest actors, I snuck it in. I told Stone that I was disappointed that he hadn't, since that first film credit, worked again with the young star that had in fact made the name Oliver Stone synonymous with taut, well-written scripts, and, I wondered:

"Was the reason you haven't worked with Arnold Schwarzenegger since Conan The Barbarian for personal or professional reasons?

His initial jaw drop, and the silence of the crowd, who assumed that Jolly Ollie had always made anarchopolitical 'message' films, was almost enough to make me fall on the floor laughing. What was truly hilarious, though, was that immediately after my question about his work as the co-writer of Conan the Barbarian, the audience came alive, asking myriad Conan questions until I left to drink to Oliver's disappointment at the lack of politically active left-wing youth on campus. My co-conspirators' followup questions,

"Is it true that you met Charlie Sheen for the first time through Heidi Fleiss?"

and

"What is the real meaning of JFK? Tell the truth--wasn't there really a hidden subplot about your relationship with your mother?"

were unnecessary--the lefty windbag was totally gelded for that trip.
39 posted on 01/27/2003 10:42:56 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Jeff Head
They have been given a pamphlet/book and a web site (www.fair.com) to use to prove this thesis, indicating that somehow, because rich people own the media, that they are necessarily pure capitalists and therefore can have no "liberal" bias.

They use this logic to imply that since the media is owned by the right-wing the people who work for it are also right-wingers. You can respond to this by using the following question.

So every person flipping burgers at McDonalds is a registered Republican then?

40 posted on 01/27/2003 10:54:40 AM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: SJackson
He began his statements by informing me that “I think Mitt Romney [the MA Republican Governor-elect] and George Bush are both clowns.” Now, he doesn’t exactly know why; they just “seem” like clowns.

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I don't know about Romney, but He's right concerning Bush. I say that as somebody who worked for Goldwater in 64 and who voted for Reagan twice.

41 posted on 01/27/2003 10:54:47 AM PST by RLK
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To: Jeff Head
She is working on an assignment now where the given and the basis of the discussion starts from the perspective that "the liberal media" is a myth and the assignment is to prove that the liberal bias does not exist.

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Leftists typically do not know any other view exists or lack the capacity to understand it. Consequently they report themselves as being news rather than being a bias.

42 posted on 01/27/2003 11:00:02 AM PST by RLK
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To: Mr. Mulliner
OK, maybe you can answer this. I've heard his stuff in linguistics is no more complicated than Venn diagrams. Is it really impressive to somebody who knows any math at all?
43 posted on 01/27/2003 11:07:44 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Jeff Head
Posted by f.Christian to Jeff Chandler

jc...

They have no business encouraging homosexuality, or forcing its acceptance upon students or faculty. The schools should teach the kids to behave like civilized people, that every individual should be treated with respect. Instead, they choose to indoctrinate them in leftist ideology. The entire school should be a safe zone for everyone. The whole idea of special protection for any one group is unAmerican.

4 posted on 01/26/2003 3:07 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ; -)

fC...

They have no business encouraging homosexuality (( evolutuion // atheism )) **, or forcing its acceptance upon students or faculty. The schools should teach the kids to behave (( think )) ** like civilized people, that every individual should be treated with respect. Instead, they choose to indoctrinate them in (( hard core )) ** leftist ideology (PC // BIAS )) ** . The entire school should be a safe zone (( NO brainwashing )) ** for everyone. The whole idea (( tyranny )) ** of special protection (( MONOPOLY )) ** for any one group (( privelegdes )) ** is . . . unAmerican - - - (( forced RELIGION establishment // vetting // witch hunts // purges // elites )) ** .

.. .. .. **...my additions !

44 posted on 01/27/2003 11:22:37 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: SJackson
The first thing that strikes me is, either the writer dumbed his brother down to make a point, or this kid is awfully juvenile for having graduated from a fancy-shmancy "prestigious" institution. The kid apparently has no tangible convictions, can't justify what nebulous views he does have, or reasonably counter his brother's arguments. Sheesh. Go back to yer goldfish swallowing.
45 posted on 01/27/2003 11:38:08 AM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: SJackson
"...he was a typical conservative Christian who enjoyed going on youth group trips and playing his guitar. He also liked to listen to music such as the Grateful Dead and The Beatles."

This kid was wide open to weird, collectivist, counter-cultural drivel for a long time. He found some professors who articulated the things he's been ruminating about of all of his life, but never heard any other alternative ideas which confronted and refuted these half-baked adolescent notions. His post graduate ideas are just the icing on the cake.

46 posted on 01/27/2003 11:47:58 AM PST by Mortimer Snavely (Is anyone else tired of reading these tag lines?)
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To: AmishDude
It's not really that simple. Perhaps someone thought they had it figured out based on seeing some of his "tree diagrams" which were used to illustrate his earlier "Transformational Grammar," but I wouldn't characterize his stuff as simple.

Interestingly, Transformational Grammar, which really made Chomsky the best known linguist in the world, was later scrapped after criticism finally caused it to sort of crumble. But Chomsky put himself back on top with a new theory called "Government Binding Theory." It has nothing to do with politics.

Because Chomsky is so prominent in linguistics, he's also a favorite target. Many people have made a career out of opposing him and trying to win against him. He's so dominant in the field of linguistics, though, that even if someone outdid him in theory, few people would acknowledge it.

By the way, Chomsky is often asked, or used to be, to lecture on mathematics. I am told that there is even a branch of mathematics named after him.
47 posted on 01/27/2003 11:52:58 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner (I could be a really good Christian if other people didn't mess me up all the time. - Adrian Plass)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
By the way, Chomsky is often asked, or used to be, to lecture on mathematics. I am told that there is even a branch of mathematics named after him.

Don't believe it. I've never heard of such a thing. Thanks for the info.

48 posted on 01/27/2003 12:05:53 PM PST by AmishDude
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