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'Eco-extremists' planning to eliminate humans
InvestigativeJournal.com. ^ | 1/23/2003 | Jim Slinsky

Posted on 01/27/2003 2:18:02 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Now hold on to your sneakers because here they come -- the largest group of eco-extremists ever assembled in one place will be meeting at State College on February 1.

It is their second meeting in Pennsylvania. It's called the "Prospects for Recovery and Rewilding" (of PA) sponsored by the PA Wildlands Recovery Project (PWRP).

Frankly, I have been hankering to write a story about steelheads and steelhead fishing. I am chomping at the bit to wade an ice-cold stream in below freezing temps and catch a 10-lb. steelhead on a fly rod. If this weather will break February might be the month. In the interim my phone is ringing off the hook with wolf and mountain lion sightings throughout PA. I am getting pounded with emails and it just seems to get better each day. Unfortunately, the big story for this spring may be the attempted reintroduction of large predators in PA. This stuff is just too good to pass up. This is the top news story in the outdoor world.

In any event this fledging group (PWRP) has a grandiose mission, which if successful, will effect every citizen living in PA. I know many non-sporting people read this column and I can only suggest you read this very carefully. This group is advocating the largest shift in land management and wildlife management to ever hit the lower 48. They see PA as fertile ground.

Of course, their central theme is we have destroyed the environment and all of its ecosystems and it time to restore them. Interconnecting wilderness areas is their primary way of accomplishing this recovery. They write "to move beyond responding to the latest threats -- to begin advocating boldly and persuasively for wilderness."

What is their definition of wilderness you ask? In their words, "Wilderness is self-willed land where native processes, not human agency, direct the ebb and flow of life." Interesting.

How do they expect to accomplish this? By having "long range plans to connect our Wildlands with each other." This part of their plan involves building underpasses and overpasses so wildlife can travel from biosphere (my word) to biosphere without getting killed on our roads. You see, in their world roads are the causes of all evil cast upon the environment. Roads must be removed and human access denied so nature can exist in harmony with itself without man's presence.

And how about that "rewilding" part of bringing PA back from devastation and the forces of evil. It's simple. These people are advocating the full-scale reintroduction of mountain lions in PA to pre-colonial prominence. They don't need hunters or trappers in their "Brave New World." Mountain lions will regulate this new "Utopia."

Mountain lions? For the record mountain lions are known, irrefutable man killers, or should I say child killers? Lions attack children and family pets more often than adults. Documented attacks are easy to find. The stories by those who lived are often gruesome.

Their twist to the mountain lion story is quite interesting. They refute the USFWS judgement that the Eastern Puma is extinct. They contend all pumas are/were the same species, east to west. Obviously, this drives their argument to restore them.

On the positive side this group acknowledges acid rain as a leading cause of our forest ills and the lack of vibrant songbird reproduction. This is the only sensible rhetoric I can find in their otherwise absurd philosophy.

Surveys reveal that in this day and age all of us are environmentalists to some degree. The intelligent mind realizes we must be stewards of the environment, putting back more than we take out. We have long accepted conservation as our guiding principle. The actions necessary to accomplish their goals of wilderness preservation and the reintroduction of large predators will cut across the rights of private landowners, your civil rights, farming rights, timbering rights and a plethora of Constitutional issues that can boggle the mind.

I debated writing this column because one has difficulty taking these people seriously. However, we should not dismiss them lightly. Projects similar to their plans exist in Europe and Canada. These people are quite serious and the so-called "Green Dragons" have substantial financial backing.

As a full time outdoor writer and radio broadcaster, I don?t need to create issues to bring to your attention. The issues just appear and I merely follow the discussions that are hot. I urge you to think long and hard if your vision for PA includes mountain lions, timber wolves and our lands locked-up as wilderness and off limits to our citizens. The threat of this happening is real.

I further encourage you to take your decision to your elected officials. The future of our civil rights, land management policies and wildlife traditions are truly in your hands.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: biodiversity; wildlandsproject

1 posted on 01/27/2003 2:18:02 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
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2 posted on 01/27/2003 3:00:33 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Tailgunner Joe

3 posted on 01/27/2003 4:19:26 PM PST by Caipirabob ([Formerly: Yakboy] Democrat.. Socialist..Commie..Traitor...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

4 posted on 01/27/2003 4:21:04 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe (God Armeth The Patriot)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Actually, there are proposals to return all of the Great Plains to wilderness by removing all human inhabitants, destroying the cities, and ripping up the roads. The objective? So the great herds of buffalo may once again roam the plains unmolested from Canada to Texas.
5 posted on 01/27/2003 4:25:07 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
Buffalo are delicious and nutritious!
6 posted on 01/27/2003 4:47:35 PM PST by Tax-chick (Way down yonder in the Indian Nations ...)
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To: DugwayDuke
Awe Yes the Buffalo Commons plan. These people, if I remember correctly, have been tracking declining population trends in several selected states.

Their belief is once the number gets to what they consider sparse, their little organization will come in and either, by force of government, or by shear power of pocketbook aquire all remaining ground. By doing this they hope to be able to deny any remaining people the ability to make a living, bankrupting the few left if necessary.

Once the agricultural economy is removed, cities that rely upon farm income and property taxes will be in a drastic situation. With the proper incentives, these cities and towns can also be vacated leaving vast connected wildlife areas.

7 posted on 01/27/2003 5:00:22 PM PST by VetoBill (Who is the actor that plays Dan Rather?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Funny how all of these bio-diversity ideas to partition and restrict the US population come from foreign(UN-American) sources.

Agenda 21, Biospheres and Corridors, bio-diversity projects and re-wilding programs, not to mention human containment and population control, are just a few of the wonderful gifts from the UN think tanks.

Support Prop.1146 - No UN.
8 posted on 01/27/2003 5:08:55 PM PST by martian_22 (We're the New Galactic Order and nobody's sweet-heart.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Actually, there are proposals to return all of the Great Plains to wilderness by removing all human inhabitants, destroying the cities, and ripping up the roads. The objective? So the great herds of buffalo may once again roam the plains unmolested from Canada to Texas.

It's hard to imagine the wacko mentality that comes up with such weird proposals.
Someone should force them to practice what they preach, destroy their houses and cars and force them to live with herds of buffalo.

9 posted on 01/27/2003 5:58:49 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Caipirabob
Yes, it appears that life imitates art.
10 posted on 01/27/2003 6:10:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is immoral.)
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To: DugwayDuke
So the great herds of buffalo may once again roam the plains unmolested from Canada to Texas.

Oh please! Great herds of buffalo were only common after the arrival of the Spanish with their horses.

If they do that I am going to go have a buffalo hunt.

(So we are mid-west not great plains. I bet this bunch couldn't tell the difference.)

11 posted on 01/27/2003 6:17:31 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( FREE SNUGGLES! Find out how you can help. Call 1800-LOST-BEAR or click on my profile)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Aaarrghgh! Why do these people keep coming to State College? Too bad I don't know where and what time - I might go check them out.
12 posted on 01/27/2003 6:28:31 PM PST by Kay Ludlow
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To: Jorge
"Someone should force them to practice what they preach, destroy their houses and cars and force them to live with herds of buffalo."

You should read "Rainbow Six" by Clancy. Change the great plains to the rain forests of the amazon and that's pretty much what happens to them.
13 posted on 01/27/2003 7:02:20 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Tailgunner Joe
A couple more examples of what these guys are up to:

The Wildlands Project

Site showing overall map of the scheme.

14 posted on 01/27/2003 10:17:08 PM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: Free the USA; Carry_Okie; backhoe; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Libertarianize the GOP; freefly; 2sheep; ...
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15 posted on 01/28/2003 10:47:49 AM PST by madfly
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To: hellinahandcart; KLT; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; redrock; Angelwood; kristinn; Askel5; Hobsonphile
Ping!
16 posted on 01/28/2003 10:49:41 AM PST by sauropod (Mike Farrell has donated his brain to science. Too bad he is still here....)
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To: martian_22
Agenda 21, Biospheres and Corridors, bio-diversity projects and re-wilding programs, not to mention human containment and population control, are just a few of the wonderful gifts from the UN think tanks.

BZZZZZZT!!!

Wrongo! Much of the Agenda21 was written in Santa Cruz, California.

17 posted on 01/28/2003 10:52:51 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; christie; ...
Ok, I know most of you have been called already but there is a few on my list that are not on the others.
18 posted on 01/28/2003 10:55:38 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: DuncanWaring
Are there similar maps of Asia, Africa and Europe . . . or is the US the only target of this nonsense? I think I get their point.
19 posted on 01/28/2003 11:01:14 AM PST by jayef
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To: Tailgunner Joe; farmfriend
Eliminate humans? Can we start with the eco-nuts?
20 posted on 01/28/2003 11:11:28 AM PST by christie (The Clinton Legacy Cookbook is here!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
21 posted on 01/28/2003 11:16:17 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: christie; Tailgunner Joe
Eliminate humans? Can we start with the eco-nuts?

They are not human, they are apes.

22 posted on 01/28/2003 11:16:27 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: jayef
I've never seen a map for anywhere other than the US Lower 48. I suspect those who created the maps I referenced have them, they're just not putting them online.

Even these are getting scarce.

www.archive.org is our friend.

23 posted on 01/28/2003 11:18:29 AM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: jayef
Are there similar maps of Asia, Africa and Europe . . . or is the US the only target of this nonsense?

I know of no other nation in the world that is being subjected to such evil designs. American private landowners are the one and only target.

24 posted on 01/28/2003 11:22:20 AM PST by jpl
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To: Jorge
They seem to have unlimited funds and influence. These inmates definately pull the strings of those who run the asylum.
25 posted on 01/28/2003 12:13:25 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Ignorance ain't bliss)
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To: christie
"Can we start with eco-nuts?"

If they go good with beer, their days are numbered.
26 posted on 01/28/2003 12:21:41 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Ignorance ain't bliss)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Well I for one can't have very much respect for their cause as long as they ain't startin' with themselves...
27 posted on 01/28/2003 12:23:18 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...which if successful, will effect every citizen living in PA.

I have difficulty giving credence to people who don't know the difference between 'affect' and 'effect'.
28 posted on 01/28/2003 12:26:48 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Tax-chick
Buffalo are delicious and nutritious!

Buffalo calves taste like spotted owl.

29 posted on 01/28/2003 1:42:05 PM PST by zip
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To: Carry_Okie
***Wrongo! Much of the Agenda21 was written in Santa Cruz, California.***

The UN is in New York City, New York. That doesn't mean everything they write is American.

Point is even in Santa Cruz the idea is not an American original. It comes from those who would subdue us - Same as the UN who promotes Agenda 21.

30 posted on 01/28/2003 3:32:39 PM PST by martian_22 (We're the New Galactic Order and nobody's sweet-heart.)
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To: martian_22
Here is what you wrote:

Funny how all of these bio-diversity ideas to partition and restrict the US population come from foreign(UN-American) sources.

To which I responded about how the Agenda21 document, the original, was written in Santa Cruz, in the US, BEFORE THE UN EVER ADOPTED IT. Ignoring that, you go on...

Point is even in Santa Cruz the idea is not an American original.

Yes it is. It was written in America, by American commuists. You still don't get it. The documents were LATER used by the UN.

The UN is in New York City, New York.

The headquarters building is. The IUCN (the UN's environmental arm) headquarters is in Switzerland. So? The organization is global; it has offices all over the world.

I was on the first Agenda21 Biodiversity and Ecosystem Management Roundtable in the nation in 1994. I was there to prevent a disaster and got rolled. I have since researched the origins of the governing document. I have since authored original published material on it. Best you learn more about what you are up against before spuoting off pretending that it is the product of foreign influence. It isn't.

The point that you choose to remain in denial about is that the nexus of Sustainable Development, global communism, is not an extranational phenomenon; it is in the UNITED STATES. It certainly isn't the extranational/European influence you were inferring in your post.

31 posted on 01/28/2003 4:46:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Don't get your panties in a bunch about my ignoring your origin testimony - I accept that; you were there.

My point was and still is if 5 generations of Americans were trained in communism and wrote an entirely new manifesto, out of the heartland, I would still consider it an un-American(anti-American by practice) and foreign idea regardless if it came from europe or not.

Any unconstitutional idea that serves to subdue or enslave us and our posterity is un-American no matter how "American" the idea is portrayed, IMHO.

Thank you for your work.
Do I get it yet?
32 posted on 01/29/2003 1:20:52 PM PST by martian_22 (We're the New Galactic Order and nobody's sweet-heart.)
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To: VetoBill
The problem is, the U.S. economy would collapse into dust long before things reached that point. There would be a fraction of the tax money collected, so none of what they want could be enforced because the U.S. govt wouldn't have the ability to oversee and maintain a rewilding of an area that size.
33 posted on 01/29/2003 7:39:14 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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