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Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!
Nasa TV | 02/01/03 | GRRRR

Posted on 02/01/2003 6:16:05 AM PST by GRRRRR

Shuttle has NOT been heard from or seen on tracking radar since 0800Hrs CDT. No contact at Merrit Island tracking station, no voice comm...DEVELOPING.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: astronauts; columbia; columbiatragedy; disaster; du; feb12003; ilanramon; india; israel; nasa; ramon; revoltingevilduers; shuttle; space; spaceshuttle; sts107; unitedstates
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To: theFIRMbss
* break up over a town called palistine>>>>>>>>

That's Palestine....I'm not far from there.....we
heard the explosion.....scanners are reporting several
debris feilds in the area.

661 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:32 AM PST by txdoda
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To: CELTICGAEL (Celt); OReilly
I don't see how a plane would get up to 200,000 feet unless it was a military plane that only the U.S. would have.
662 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:33 AM PST by walrus954
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To: The South Park Republican
Please, no more. We are all sad and in tears. Don't bring them into this thread again. I know they sicken you, but this is a different time. We don't want those posts. The only comfort here is that they are surely in the Hand of God discoveering the last great mystery.
663 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:37 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: Movemout
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On behalf of posters on Free Republic, I post this with deepest sympathy for the crew and their families.

Mission - sts107


664 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (This grpahic shows the crew that was lost this morning.)
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To: lawdude
This is a win/win for Terrorism; either they did it and they have a "spectacular" victory over the U.S. and Israel (why do we bring foreigners along and make more trouble for us), or it is not not, but given the world situation, they get credit anyway.
665 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:41 AM PST by sobieski
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To: The South Park Republican
from DU..." How fortunate that he gets to rally America for yet another tragedy that occured under his watch. "

While I regret and have removed my earlier post, do you now see how I could have anticipated such reaction from extreme leftists?

I mean, hell, within ten minutes after the death of Paul Wellstone they were all salivating about their chances to win MN.

666 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:42 AM PST by ez ("If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning." - GWB)
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To: OReilly
What plane could fly at 200,000 feet
667 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:45 AM PST by ThinkingMan
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To: CELTICGAEL (Celt)
witness on cnn said he saw a plane next to shuttle

That's usually normal. There are T5 Talon chase planes that pick up the Shuttle as soon as it re-enters.

668 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: OReilly
At 207,000 feet?
669 posted on 02/01/2003 7:26:53 AM PST by linear
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Thanks for President Reagan's remarks - excellent.
670 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:05 AM PST by lodwick
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To: Movemout
Profiles of Space Shuttle Columbia Crew

Saturday, February 01, 2003

Commander Rick Husband has just one other spaceflight under his belt and already he's flying as commander. That's a rarity. "I think a lot of it has to do with being in the right place at the right time, for starters," says Husband, 45, an Air Force colonel from Amarillo, Texas. The former test pilot was selected as an astronaut in 1994 on his fourth try. He made up his mind as a child that that was what he was going to do with his life. "It's been pretty much a lifelong dream and just a thrill to be able to get to actually live it out," he says. Another lifelong passion: singing. Husband, a baritone, has been singing in church choirs for years. He used to sing in barbershop quartets, back during his school days. ------

Pilot William McCool says one of the most nerve-racking parts of training for this scientific research mission was learning to draw blood -- from others. Columbia's two pilots are exempted from invasive medical tests in orbit, like blood draws. That means he and his commander have to draw blood from their crewmates. McCool felt bad practicing on NASA volunteers. "I didn't want to inflict pain," he recalls. "We weren't really gathering science, so everything that they were going through was for my benefit, and I guess I felt bad a little bit." The 41-year-old Navy commander, a father of three sons, graduated second in his 1983 class at the Naval Academy. He went on to test pilot school and became an astronaut in 1996. This is his first spaceflight. McCool grew up in Lubbock, Texas.

------ Payload commander Michael Anderson loves flying, both in aircraft and spacecraft, but he dislikes being launched. It's the risk factor. "There's always that unknown," he says. Anderson, 43, the son of an Air Force man, grew up on military bases. "I was always fascinated by science-fiction shows, shows like 'Star Trek' and 'Lost in +Space+,"' he says. "And going out of your house and looking up and seeing jets fly by, that seemed like another very exciting thing to do. So I knew I wanted to fly airplanes, and I knew I wanted to do something really exciting, and I always had a natural interest in science. "So it all kind of came together at a very young age, and I thought being an astronaut would be the perfect job." Anderson was flying for the Air Force when NASA chose him in 1994 as one of only a handful of black astronauts. He traveled to Russia's Mir space station in 1998. He is now a lieutenant colonel and in charge of Columbia's dozens of science experiments. His home is Spokane, Wash. ------

When Kalpana Chawla emigrated to the United States from India in the 1980s, she wanted to design aircraft. The space program was the furthest thing from her mind. "That would be too far-fetched," says the 41-year-old engineer. But "one thing led to another," and she was chosen as an astronaut in 1994 after working at NASA's Ames Research Center and Overset Methods Inc. in Northern California. On her only other spaceflight, in 1996, Chawla made a pair of mistakes that sent a science satellite tumbling out of control. Two other astronauts had to go out on a spacewalk to capture it. "I stopped thinking about it after trying to figure out what are the lessons learned, and there are so many," she says. "After I had basically sorted that out, I figured it's time to really look at the future and not at the past." She realizes some may see this flight as her chance to redeem herself. ------

David Brown is a Navy novelty: He's both a pilot and a doctor. He's also probably the only NASA astronaut to have worked as a circus performer. Brown was a varsity gymnast at the College of William and Mary when he got a phone call one day: Would he like to join the circus? So during the summer of 1976, he was an acrobat, tumbler, stilt walker and 7-foot unicycle rider. "What I really learned from that, and transfers directly to what I'm doing on this crew, is kind of the team work and the safety and the staying focused, even at the end of a long day when you're tired and you're doing some things that may have some risk to them." He joined the Navy after his medical internship and went on to fly the A-6E Intruder and F-18. His current rank is captain. NASA chose him as an astronaut in 1996. This is his first spaceflight; he will help with all the experiments. Brown, 46, is taking up a flag from Yorktown High School in Arlington, Va., his alma mater, that another graduate took up Mount Everest. "I'm going to get it a little bit higher up, but I won't have to walk as far to get it there." ------

Laurel Clark, a Navy physician who worked undersea, likens the numerous launch delays to a marathon in which the finish line keeps moving out five miles. "You've got to slow back down and maintain a pace," she says. The 41-year-old Clark was a diving medical officer aboard submarines and then a naval flight surgeon. She became an astronaut in 1996. Her family, including her 8-year-old son, worry sometimes about her being an astronaut. But she tells everyone "what an aggressive safety program we have." "To me, there's a lot of different things that we do during life that could potentially harm us and I choose not to stop doing those things," she notes. "They've all come to accept that it's what I want to do." She will help with Columbia's science experiments, which should have flown almost two years ago. Her home is Racine, Wis. ------

Ilan Ramon, a colonel in Israel's air force, is the first Israeli to be launched into space. "For Israel and for the Jewish community, it's something beyond being in space," he says. "It's a very symbolic mission." His mother and grandmother survived the Auschwitz death camp, and his father was a Zionist who fought for Israel's statehood alongside his own father. The astronaut also fought for his country, in the Yom Kippur War in 1973 and the Lebanon War in 1982. "I was born in Israel as an Israeli, so I'm kind of a dream fulfillment for all this last-century generation," he says. Ramon, 48, served as a fighter pilot during the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s, flying F-16s and F-4s. He was promoted in 1994 to lead Israel's department of operational requirement for weapon development and acquisition. He was selected as his country's first astronaut in 1997 and moved to Houston in 1998 to train for a shuttle flight. He and his wife, Rona, have four children and call Tel Aviv home.

671 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:06 AM PST by apackof2
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To: txdoda; anotherdubya
My brother lives near Palestine, Texas...
672 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:06 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: sinkspur
sink,

I would not have mentioned that transcript here if I had not read it myself. I send out my prayers for the families--and I know you do as well. If it was a bogus transcript I read--then it was. But our chief instructor at Kelly said he heard the tape--and I believe him.

I only mention it because in the days and weeks to follow, these things are certain as death and taxes:

1. there is going to be an accident investigation board

2. the public is going to ask why NASA did not implement an emergency crew egress system after the Challenger disaster

I was told a newspaper printed the transcript years ago. Not sure if that happened, but I read it.

673 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:10 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: LoneGOPinCT
They have made the announcement here at CPAC to the attendees in the main ballroom. Lots of very shocked people are wandering around the Crystal Gateway Marriott. Groups of people are standing around the TVs in the sports bar watching the film of the debris coming down.

Evidently one of the astronauts was a close friend of Wayne LaPierre's daughter.

674 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:11 AM PST by Interesting Times
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To: af_vet_rr

This is going to sound cold-hearted, and it's not meant to be, but the Space Shuttle is risky business, and accidents are going to happen. People in this country have become soft over the years and don't realize just how dangerous space travel can be.

Not in the Palmdale/Lancaster/Edwards AFB, California area which is where the finally assembly of the shuttles and first test flights and landings was. Half the place is named in honour of test pilots of earlier programs and the Challenger.

Add my thoughts and prayers to everyone.

675 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:17 AM PST by Victoria_R (I guess we still resent afternoon cartoons getting pre-empted for endless hearings...)
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To: Movemout
Not true. DSP launches have been accomplished using Titans. Civil access to space will be extremely curtailed for the near term. Back when Challenger went down the military, who had been forced into all eggs in one basket strategy, created a policy of Shuttle/Expendable capabilities. Miltary ability to launch assets is intact.

I wasn't aware of it though I knew the military was never satisfied that, in order to justify shuttle costs, they were forced to put their birds on the shuttle. I thought the "black launches" of the shuttle were to carry the 20-ton+ KH spy birds. I know there was a period where we couldn't replace aging KH birds until the shuttle was back in service. I was concerned because we never have very many of the big birds up at one time and we are anticipating imminent military action in Iraq.
676 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:18 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: debg
Just heard there was a commercial jet close to the shuttle from a eyewitness - but the airline would have to be lower than 200,000ft
677 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:19 AM PST by acnielsen guy
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To: CELTICGAEL (Celt)
witness on cnn said he saw a plane next to shuttle

Bogus! I heard it too and any jet would have been closer to the Earth than to the Space Shuttle. This was just a terrible accident. Tinfoil-hattery is really not appreciated at a moment like this.

678 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:19 AM PST by mikegi
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To: bonesmccoy
Your comments are priceless on this thread. Thanks for the commentary; it's much appreciated.
679 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:21 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: JohnHuang2
There isn't a dry eye here at my house...

This is so heartbreaking! God bless them and their dear families that were there watching their family memebers perish.

680 posted on 02/01/2003 7:27:25 AM PST by Wait4Truth (I HATE THE MEDIA!!!)
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