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Iraqis Call Shuttle Disaster God's Vengeance
Reuters ^ | 2.1.03

Posted on 02/01/2003 11:20:11 AM PST by mhking

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To: mhking
The time for diplomacy and humanitarian efforts has passed. Mr. President...I respectfully submit it is now time to act, decisively and with extreme prejudice.
451 posted on 02/01/2003 4:53:04 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: mhking
Just makes me look forward to watching these scumbags die even more.
452 posted on 02/01/2003 4:55:22 PM PST by muslims=borg (Outstanding Red Team....I'll get ya a case of beer for that one........)
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To: Howlin
I wonder how the Hollywood crowd and the Democrats will feel about this.

The Hollywood crowd is mostly full of atheists so they won't believe that this is God's vengence. But I'll bet they are privately mocking the President's words about God taking them home.
453 posted on 02/01/2003 4:56:02 PM PST by redheadtoo
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To: Lurking2Long
Just hope God lets US do his work for him!! Thoe SOB's just P**S me off!!
454 posted on 02/01/2003 4:59:48 PM PST by Springman (Very sad day.)
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To: mhking
What a difference a Christian reply would be to this tragedy. If the shuttle had belonged to the Iraqis President Bush would have offered his condolences.
455 posted on 02/01/2003 5:06:44 PM PST by redheadtoo (James 1:2 Consider it all joy my brethren when you encounter various trials.)
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To: mhking
The bombing should have started five minutes ago over there....and that's long overdue, in my opinion.

456 posted on 02/01/2003 5:08:41 PM PST by GOP_Raider (OAKLAND RAIDERS AFC CHAMPIONS!!!!)
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To: Springman
Thoe=Those, sorry.
457 posted on 02/01/2003 5:11:16 PM PST by Springman (Very sad day.)
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To: mhking
Uh, huh. "Popular reaction" in a hyper-totalitarian dictatorship. Only in the good-is-evil, up-is-down, black-is-white, is-isn't-is world of Reuters.
458 posted on 02/01/2003 5:13:36 PM PST by Stultis
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To: mhking
They will soon learn about venegance first hand!
459 posted on 02/01/2003 5:19:45 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep
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To: mhking
My, My, My, there a lot of replies to this one.

All I gotta say is this.......

TIME TO TURN THESE SOB'S AND THEIR COUNTRY INTO ONE BIG SHEET OF GLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS INSULT THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR SPACE PROGRAM WHO GAVE THE ULTIMATE PRICE IN SERVICE TO THEIR COUNTRY!

460 posted on 02/01/2003 5:22:44 PM PST by mrb1960
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To: A CA Guy
Actually, the way I was taught, God punishes the guilty for their own sins. He doesn't punish the innocent for the sins of others.
461 posted on 02/01/2003 5:26:14 PM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: LiteKeeper
Amen. Now lets send a flaming rocket down in their country.
462 posted on 02/01/2003 5:40:25 PM PST by Marines981
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To: freedumb2003

463 posted on 02/01/2003 5:43:41 PM PST by ALS
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To: Impeach the Boy
I doubt heaven has enough virgins to go round.
464 posted on 02/01/2003 5:46:31 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: mhking
U.S. fundamentalists have been known to claim AIDS is "God's Vengeance" on gays. I just want to know how any of these people managed to arrange a few minutes with the Almighty to find this out.
465 posted on 02/01/2003 5:47:19 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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To: mhking; Greybird
Just a few examples of the reactions of some true individualist patriots, courtesy of Liberty Forum:

I can see why they would cheer the death of the Israeli astronaut. --thoughtcriminal

And so are the Palestinians I'm sure. I also suspect that in both Washington DC and Tel Aviv the propagandists are hard at working figuring out how to use this disaster to strengthen US/Israel ties. --NMC EXP (admirer of H. L. Mencken, the very incarnation of "true conservatism.")

You can bet Joseph Farah, Rupert Murdoch, Mort Zuckerman, Conrad Black, and Izzy Asper will go out of their way to find Muslims celebrating this tragedy. Just watch next week's headlines. The real story these days isn't actually what happens...it's how the media frames the news to advance its own agenda. --Centinel (wants to reactivate HUAC, apparently on he assumption PFLP is as American as apple pie).

Ironic, that picture of protesting Islamics has been on NewsMax since yesterday afternoon. I guess keeping it underneath the shuttle headline gives it some extra mileage. --Same guy, still wants HUAC to protect moslems from Jews.

I shall not applogize for wanting the head of this murderer who killed many Muslims in his combat during the Yom Kippur War and Israel's bloody massacre in Lebabnon. No... this is definitely one of those who I can only pray that Allah burns extra crisp. I pray for the demise and torment of all of those like him. --ansar, true-blue conservative American, defender of the chr*stian West, and member of the only good non-white minority group in the whole wide world.

Where was Bush to express sympathy over the innocent Palestinians, Afghans, Iraqis and others who were ruthlessly killed by beastly murderers. To hell with Bush and his ass kissing of the Israelis!!! I hope an act of God will wipe him and the asses he kiss forever from the earth. Any war monger who would cold, callously and calculatingly attack another weak nation under false pretense with no regards to innocent lives lost don't deserve my respect or care!!! --The selfsame free-thinking, rational individualist.

Same here. I like my enemies extra crispy. He's too young to have been one of those who killed our sailors on the USS Liberty, but no doubt he fraternizes with those who did. --Don Wallgren, "nonconformist," whose tag line reads "Hitler was a man of peace." Gotta love them "anarcho-capitalist libertarians," huh?

Oh, and another thread accuses "Zionist" Lieberman of stirring up non-existent trouble between the US and that peaceful nation, North Korea. But evidently they feel quite differently about Communist China, which they seem to think is an Israeli satellite. Why don't the "Zionists" have "their Chinese satellite" take out peace-loving North Korea for them?

Now I know you're all going to laugh and say "oh well, that's how those people are" and dismiss them. I'm sorry, but I don't think they're funny. Of course, there's an attempt right now to ban sites like this for liberal reasons, and this makes these admirers of Hitler feel like martyrs for liberty (just as Ho's patsies did in the Sixties). Naturally, I myself don't advocate the supression of any site for any reason other than the rule of the world by G-d. But at any rate . . .

I hope the moderators (among whom I am most definitely not included, nor do I want to be, as my basic Theocratic philosophy marks me as not really at home here, and perhaps even "un-American") will take a good long look at these sentiments and these individuals and remember when they come over here and bully them with charges of "censorship of free thought" that they will not be cowed. These people have their own sites. They can state their feelings quite plainly there without fear of "censorship" (and of course their admitted admiration for Hitler and hatred of Jews shows them to be your typical dishonest "aryans" when it comes to telling the truth). Besides, I'm more than happy to post their stuff here for them! Only thing is, they don't like getting to misrepresent themselves here. The poor persecuted widdle babies.

Forgive me. I hope the Mossad does kill them, but only if they are not first taken out by 1) their Arab/moslem/North Korean buddies or 2) an eventual Fundamentalist/Noachide militant group (everybody else has one!).

I'm sorry folks. This stuff isn't funny. Clucking at it is useless. The best thing to do is to let them show just what they are, and what liars they are when they come over here and deny it.

HaMavetah son'ei-HaShem! That means "death to the haters of HaShem." Sorry if that sounds "talibanish" to you seculars.

466 posted on 02/01/2003 6:29:52 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (G-d's laws or NONE!!!)
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To: LowOiL
Thanks for the link. I also read the essay about judgement. I think it summarizes the liberals I know...especially my sister. They are so concerned about being tolerant and nonjudgemental that they have lost sight of right and wrong.
467 posted on 02/01/2003 6:35:00 PM PST by Samwise
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To: All
I just jumped in on this thread. Curious to know....has anyone seen a single report on TV or radio about celebrations in Middle East like last time? So far, I have yet to see any demonstration broadcast. Bring me up to date. Thanx.
468 posted on 02/01/2003 7:13:55 PM PST by KnutCase
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To: LiteKeeper
Lock and load launch.

Now, don't you feel better? LOL

469 posted on 02/01/2003 7:16:40 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: mhking
Amen! F**K THE IRAQIS!!!!
470 posted on 02/01/2003 7:20:06 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: mhking
 
 
 
That cigar smoking, beanie wearing, mustache-faced pantload should enjoy the gloat while he can.
 
Some friends of mine are going to visit him.
 
Soon.
 
 
 

471 posted on 02/01/2003 7:29:21 PM PST by DeBug=int13
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To: DeBug=int13
Laugh while you can you disgusting excsuses for sentient life (I won't call them members of the same human race I am a part of).

We're coming..and we'll pick up where Col. Ramon and company left off

Note to any military in the Gulf, name some ordinance after the heroes we lost today..and drop on these camel lovers.

472 posted on 02/01/2003 7:33:26 PM PST by Braak (Democrats...always on the wrong side of history...since 1945.)
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To: jd777
Saddam isn't even mentioned in the article. He didn't say anything about it.

I have followed your posts on this thread with great interest. You appear to see this story as propaganda to further inflame American opinion against Iraq and its people. I have to ask you why. Propaganda is based on government actions and statements. The article is from Reuters, which is hardly a "mouthpiece" for the US Government especially a republican controlled government. You are correct that we are going to war with Iraq in a very short time and it could be understood that the reaction of those quoted in the article could simply be a reaction to that fact but so what? You appear to be very interested in countering the facts in the article with your own subjective opinion that it is only propaganda and that "Rumsfeld is in the background egging the President on". You have used the "propaganda card" so often that you appear to be engaging in the same activity.

473 posted on 02/01/2003 7:57:14 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: mhking
I wish the Iraqis death by anal rape.
474 posted on 02/01/2003 7:57:38 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Iraqis = Full of Sound & Fury, Signifying nothing.)
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To: mhking
A Memorial I did this morning in Photoshop.

I am using this for my desktop. Feel free to use it or post
it anywhere you like.

The Background was taken by Digital Camera from this
shuttle mission.

The rest of the pics are from Nasa's website.

There is a larger version on my website here:

http://home.attbi.com/~Sonar5/Shuttle/memorial-sts-107.jpg


Regards,
Joe



475 posted on 02/01/2003 8:01:02 PM PST by Sonar5
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
I thought they never left.
476 posted on 02/01/2003 8:30:40 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: mhking; Jim Robinson
As a young 14 year-old American (son of carlo3b) I may not speak for all the views of the current youth, but I speak for myself. Period.
I am, as well as my father, rather glad that the Iraqi's are showing their true colors. I am also relieved to hear that they believe in God...they will be doing alot of praying if at war with the glorious United States of America.
477 posted on 02/01/2003 8:37:29 PM PST by YoungVoice3b ( Debut post with my own Freeper name. Thank you, Mr. Robinson)
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To: swheats
You want to be more specific

No, I don't. I was quite clear.
478 posted on 02/01/2003 8:57:52 PM PST by visualops
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To: mhking
"God wants to show that his might is greater than the Americans. They have encroached on our country. God is avenging us," he said.

We're coming for you. And we'll put a 5.56mm right through your brain.

479 posted on 02/01/2003 9:06:03 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: mhking
bump
480 posted on 02/01/2003 9:06:58 PM PST by GrandMoM (Spare the rod, spoil the child!)
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To: jd777
Saddam isn't even mentioned in the article.

You cannot possibly be this out of touch, can you?

Nothing gets printed from Iraq without his permission.

481 posted on 02/01/2003 9:34:52 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Nothing gets printed from Iraq without his permission.

Now,now don't "propagandize". JD is very concerned about all the “progandizin” goin on round heah

482 posted on 02/01/2003 9:39:53 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: YoungVoice3b
Welcome aboard young man.
483 posted on 02/01/2003 10:00:48 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: mhking
Re #1

Iraqi regime is unwittingly giving U.S. military an extra motivation.

484 posted on 02/01/2003 11:12:43 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Texasforever
Thank you for your considerate reply. Yes, I believe this is propaganda. And you're right it wasn't delivered by a pentagon spokesperson. But that would hardly have been effective propaganda. You would have spotted it, immediately. I support the war. I believe in its objective. At the same time, I recognize that there is considerable domestic anxiety about the loss of civilian life that will inevitably take place when we invade. This "story" which appeared right after our tragic accident at a time of national sadness, in your words, "inflames" american anger at the average iraqi citizenry. It serves a purpose, not to inform, but to incite. That is propganda. And of course right on cue, freepers started demanding retribution. Perhaps now we'll feel less anxious about killing 100,000 iraqi, say 3 weeks from now...

I would also remind you that while this war isn't exclusively about oil, several European Oil companies (BP/Amoco and Royal Dutch Shell) stand to make tens of Billions from deliveries of the procured iraqi oil reserves. Reuters is a London based News Service and MONEY MAKES THE MARE GO ROUND!

485 posted on 02/01/2003 11:33:01 PM PST by jd777
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To: mhking
I've been looking at Arab, etc. media this morning. Some don't mention it at all. Our dear friends the Saudis (arabnews.com)got ahold of some anti-nuclear clown and quoted him as questioning NASA's warning to stay away from debris..."What are they hiding?",intimating there was some sort of Star Wars related nuclear payload, and using the opportunity to do some Bush bashing. Interestingly, one of the Evil Axis, the Iranians,(IRNA.com) has a statement expressing condolences and specifically differentiates politics from science and space exploration. Anybody seen anything else?
486 posted on 02/02/2003 12:14:50 AM PST by MadJack
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To: LibKill
Nukes don't leave casings, fragments, or other forensic evidence.

Actually they do .... of course I'm all for nuking Iraq and the rest of the Middle East (minus a sliver on the western Med coast) back to the stone age so no problem with me :)

487 posted on 02/02/2003 12:38:14 AM PST by Centurion2000 (The question is not whether you're paranoid, but whether you're paranoid enough.)
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To: concerned about politics
It will be like it was in February, March and April of 1945 as U.S. and British troops, in their mad dash across Germany, stumbled on concentration camps with their skeletal survivors. "

I think you're right. Unfortunately there will still be idiots (liberals) that will obfuscate, lie and fabricate stories to confuse the issue and flat out deny that these things are happening.

Relations with the Franco-German Weasel axis will cool considerably after we get done looking.

488 posted on 02/02/2003 12:46:49 AM PST by Centurion2000 (The question is not whether you're paranoid, but whether you're paranoid enough.)
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To: mhking
Time to sober them up from their stunned supor of hatred.
489 posted on 02/02/2003 1:21:54 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: concerned about politics
we will be gorged with revelations from Iraq

Won't make any difference. Traitors-R-Us (Hillary, Sean Penn, et al), will say the evidence was planted.

490 posted on 02/02/2003 1:39:01 AM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: mhking
It's time to take these parasitic predators out

Indeed.

However, I looked in on LibertyForum a while ago - you know, the "Libertarian" forum of choice. They were just as busy gloating as Saddam is.

Not all parasitic predators needing to be taken out reside in foreign lands, and a war against Saddam may turn into ugly surprises if the fifth column is left to its own devices.

491 posted on 02/02/2003 6:15:56 AM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Chad Fairbanks; Catspaw; keats5; Chancellor Palpatine; CobaltBlue
I do not connect this disaster of Columbia with the wrath of God.
There was a Freeper who mentioned to us on a post that America may have lost the Blessings and Protection of God's umbrella due to our behavior in the killing of millions of babies in the United States with abortion.
I think they have a true point on that issue. I do not believe though that this disaster was an example of the removal of that umbrella of protection.

Before Roe v. Wade, abortion did not have national approval by the law of the land of the USA.

God blesses us if we follow the Ten Commandments and love Him.
As a nation, we have been killing babies (His Creations) for decades and the pile of babies would be in the many tens of millions.
With all the murder of innocent babies, by what logic do we expect the same blessings and protections of God as when we don't kill the innocent?
Is there any show of hands here at FR that would suggest God jumps up and down for joy seeing a woman have an abortion?
Would God call an abortion a great thing or an abomination in His eyes?
It is not illogical or out of left field to realize that we lose God's blessings and protection when we murder the innocent.
I think ONE evidence of the lifting of that blessing or protection would be in the decay and moral decline of our society.

My heart and prayers do go out to our fallen heroes who died the other day.
I don't think that disaster was some form of vengeance from God. I think they are with God right now. May they rest in peace and may God give their families the strength to survive this in the best way.
492 posted on 02/02/2003 10:23:02 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Actually you are the one "full-of-it", my view was the other Freeper had a point about there being an "Umbrella of Protection" over the people who follow God's law.
They were also right in that with abortion we probably have left ourselves without that protection as a nation.

That was the only part of their issue I addressed. I never made any connection of a lack of protection and THIS tragic disaster.

I NEVER thought that God probably executed our heroes in space as you would like to suggest I believe. That is a totally mistaken and stupid interpretation on your part. Your are 100% wrong! In my years of posting here on various topics, none of what I have ever written would ever suggest your claims or such a way of thinking by me.

Put a lid on it and move on. You took something I addressed in in part to another Freeper as meaning a whole other thing.

I just pray to God you are not doing this same kind of thing in your GOP leadership role.
493 posted on 02/02/2003 11:06:17 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
So, if (in your view) God has lifted His hand of protection over this nation, how do you think that lack of protection is manifesting itself? You seem to want to have it both ways.

And by the way - you never did adequately explain why bad things happened in this country prior to Roe v. Wade, if that was some sort of spiritual turning point.
494 posted on 02/02/2003 11:12:52 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Eleven. Exactly. One louder.)
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To: A CA Guy
Once again, you're contradicting yourself.
495 posted on 02/02/2003 11:19:27 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: A CA Guy; Chad Fairbanks
I just pray to God you are not doing this same kind of thing in your GOP leadership role.

Nice. Has it escaped your grasp that those expressing this idea that God has turned His back on Americans because of Roe v. Wade have been rebuked by far more people than just Chad?

496 posted on 02/02/2003 11:19:46 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Eleven. Exactly. One louder.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I cannot believe this is still going on! Is this the "America is lost" theory, or the "It's Because there was a Jew onboard" theory?

I just cannot keep up.

497 posted on 02/02/2003 11:22:07 AM PST by Howlin
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To: A CA Guy
Let me see if I can spell it out for you, and anyone else who actually gives a rip...

In several posts, Joyful1 said...

"Even our enemies can speak truth. If this wasn't terrorism, then I believe God is removing His protection from America because of our heavy heavy sins."

Which can only be interpreted as to mean that this tragedy occured because of 'our sins'. In reply to that post YOU said...

To: joyful1

You have a point...******ABORTION******

86 posted on 02/01/2003 11:35 AM PST by A CA Guy

Which any reasonable-minded person would take to mean "Yes, I agree. And the sin is Abortion". If you meant it ANY other way, then you obvoiusly had a problem expressing what you REALLY meant...

Yeah, I'm 'full of it' all right...

498 posted on 02/02/2003 11:24:09 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got Armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening.)
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To: Howlin
No doubt that crowd(not all of Hollywood)would blame it on us; and say that we made the 'poor Iraqis behave this way'!
499 posted on 02/02/2003 11:45:47 AM PST by dsutah
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To: mhking
"OPERATION: RAGHEAD BEGONE"...has just become...

"OPERATION: SAND TO GLASS"....

Mustang sends...with hope this comes to fruition.
500 posted on 02/02/2003 12:19:13 PM PST by Mustang
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