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'Plan Hillary'
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 2/2/02 | Dateline D.C.

Posted on 02/01/2003 10:09:40 PM PST by Jean S

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:02:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - The State of the Union Address in the third year of any presidency invariably triggers expectations of the next election. Republicans have a proven candidate, President George Bush, and the Democrats have a gang of six

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004
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To: JeanS
Never underestimate Hitlery.
21 posted on 02/02/2003 12:12:24 AM PST by FReethesheeples
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To: JeanS
BUMPED and bookmarked for following along.
22 posted on 02/02/2003 12:30:06 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Texas Eagle
Hasn't anyone told this guy that we WANT Hillary Rodham to win the RAT nomination?

Just like everybody wanted her to run for Senator.

If she runs in 2008, there's a very good chance she'll win. Why even offer the chance when our country's well-being is at stake?

Conservatives and libertarians keep making the same mistake again and again: they rely on facts, common sense and assume the resulting sense of shame or outrage will thwart the democrats. Fat chance.

We've seen for years that democrats have no sense of decency and no sense of what is right or appropriate. We've seen their continual lack of respect our the country, it's people and the rule of law. But we still invite their worst members to run for office so we can somehow "make fools" of them and then we all stand amazed as we watch these moral cretins get elected.

No thanks.

23 posted on 02/02/2003 12:56:17 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: CWOJackson
3) She is not universally worshipped by Democrats. There are many within her own party who detest her. In effect, she would have the opposite force on traditionally Democrat voters; repressing their turn out.

Look, I'm not saying you're wrong, but who are these Democrats that detest her? I was surprised when Pat Moynihan endorsed Hillary on his way out the door. He had always shown typical upper crust disdain for the Clintons. Who are the prominent Dems that openly dislike her?

24 posted on 02/02/2003 1:36:09 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
You can start with the six Democrats who are openly running for the Presidency, who know exactly what she's about. Add to that Democratic Senators who have seniority but get short changed because of her; Senators have big egos and long memories.

The same Democrats who opposed giving Pelosi her position; the one's who know she's bad for their party.

25 posted on 02/02/2003 1:42:41 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Who are the prominent Dems that openly dislike her?

There are none... it could prove deadly. I think the Brit who wrote the article is pretty dead-on-balls.

HILLARY can't wait for 2008... she would have to win her senate seat in 2006. Definitely not a done deal.

HILLARY will be on the Rat ticket in 2004.

26 posted on 02/02/2003 2:23:46 AM PST by johnny7 (“You know, the children need me!” -HRC)
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To: bayareablues
Show up at any event where she is scheduled to speak in BIG numbers and instead of chanting her praises, everyone raise a Nazi salute and chant over and over "HEIL TO THE QUEEF". She MUST be made to see this everywhere she appears and the MEDIA must be made to see it.

It's a source of supreme humiliation to any woman and calling another a "Queefer" is a form of torment we reserve for those who have earned our bitter disrespect.

Just remember, it's something that Howard Stern thinks is great entertainment, it's profoundly vulgar, and it's a fitting description of Queef Hitlery!

27 posted on 02/02/2003 3:10:24 AM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: Schnucki
"We've seen for years that democrats have no sense of sense of decency and no sense of what is right or appropriate. We've seen their continual lack of respect to our country,it's people, and the rule of law." There are countless examples that verify your comment. The New Jersey senate race and Minnesota debacle being the most recent. At one time I thought that a Hillary campaign would die in "flyover country", but in hindsight, Minnesota IS flyover country and from what I witnessed at the Wellstone , ahem, "funeral", democratic dementia has reached epidemic status. Add the missing F.B.I. files and the leverage they provide and the UNTHINKABLE becomes the POSSIBLE.IMHO the only way to prevent the possibility is to purge the house and senate of any and all members vulnerable to blackmail via filegate and that ain't gonna happen. I will now remove my tinfoil hat.
28 posted on 02/02/2003 3:26:37 AM PST by zygoat
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To: zygoat
I will now remove my tinfoil hat.

Don't. Instead, read Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", particularly the first parts where Adolf rises to power through a host of contenders, and imposes the vision he always had on the unsuspecting dupes who voted him in, and the willfully blind leaders of adjacent countries.

You'll need the hat. Most screw-ups are better explained as the result of incompetence; true conspiracy is quite rare, but when it occurs, it is much, much worse than first thought.

29 posted on 02/02/2003 7:19:41 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Howlin

UGH, WE'VE GOTTA GET HER OUT OF NY AND "PUBLIC" SERVICE...

30 posted on 02/02/2003 7:25:39 AM PST by KLT (NY NEEDS TO BE CLINTONFREE!)
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To: Howlin
I hate her more.

sw

31 posted on 02/02/2003 7:32:16 AM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (Hey New York, "her country calls")..barf.)
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To: JeanS
This scenario relies upon the premise that Hillary! can keep from being asked any tough questions during a presidential run. I don't see how that will be possible with the internet and news orgs like Fox in the mix. Under tough questioning she quickly becomes the shrill harpie we all know and love. In two years internet/PC capability will allow transmission and display of terabytes of info in seconds.
32 posted on 02/02/2003 7:35:20 AM PST by pabianice
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To: JeanS
But when the Democrats convene their nominating convention in Boston in July 2004, there will be no clear-cut candidate. It will come down to a floor vote and "Plan Hillary" will slide into top gear.

Absolutely. I've said this same thing since she announced that she won't seek the nomination and "plans" to serve all 6 years of her Senate term. It's all a bunch of demorat deception.

Selfishly, I hope they do draft her becuase she'll lose.  Then, she'll be out of the Senate in my state.  I have complete faith that the rest of the country wouldn't elect her to the Commander and Chief position, even though idiots in my state voted her into the US Senate.

33 posted on 02/02/2003 7:37:16 AM PST by b4its2late
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To: Mr. Mojo
Let her run. She'll no doubt be able to secure the Rat nomination in whatever year (or years) she decides to run, but she could never win a general election.

The exact thing so many said about the Senate. Believe this at your own peril. This woman will do whatever it takes to win.

34 posted on 02/02/2003 7:41:49 AM PST by ladyinred
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To: JeanS
But when the Democrats convene their nominating convention in Boston in July 2004, there will be no clear-cut candidate. It will come down to a floor vote and "Plan Hillary" will slide into top gear.

The effect of HILLPAC will be seen. Elected officials from state assemblies and the U.S. Congress from every part of the country will demand that Hillary be their party's nominee. Initially she will refuse, but eventually will agree.

Who could resist "the will of the people"? Certainly not a Clinton. So, without the stress, struggle and cost of primary campaigns, Mrs. Clinton will take the rest of the summer for a brief vacation and return after Labor Day for seven weeks — a full 50 days — on the campaign trail.

It certainly worked for others in the Democrat past.

"Nominated by acclaim." (in smokey back rooms.)
35 posted on 02/02/2003 7:42:33 AM PST by tet68
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To: JeanS
Two things I know-

LeBron James will be a Los Angeles Laker next year

and

Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat nominee for President in 2004
36 posted on 02/02/2003 7:52:03 AM PST by socal_parrot (The Horror...The Horror...)
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To: ladyinred
The exact thing so many said about the Senate.

Apples and Oranges. I wasn't suprised in the least that she won that Senate seat, considering the composition of the NY electorate. Winning a general election is a whole different ballgame, and she'd never get the votes of the Independents and swing voters required to win such an election. She's way too despised.

37 posted on 02/02/2003 7:53:00 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: socal_parrot
You really think the egos of Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, and the Zen Master could inhabit the same franchise? It's difficult enough to keep things together as it is these days.
38 posted on 02/02/2003 7:55:54 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
You're probably right, but there's no way the NBA will let him languish in a non-marquee, media center city. If not LA, it will be New York, Chicago or maybe Boston.
39 posted on 02/02/2003 7:59:28 AM PST by socal_parrot (Hillary sold her soul at the 99 cent store.)
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To: baseballmom
We never thought she would be a senator either. This is scary.

This bears repeating.

Winning the senate seat in NY during a presidential cycle (where Algore got a higher % of votes than Hitlery in NY) is different than winning a national election for the Top Spot.

However, Democrats start with a major advantage of institutional control of so many electoral votes (NY, CA, IL, NJ, MA, CT). Any Hitlery's kind of polarization can also work in the swing states of MI, PA, FL, OR, IA, MO, OH. So she remains dangerous, especially with a sympathetic media that will be pining for the Clinton era for the rest of our days -- refusing to associate it with all the negatives: the economic bubble, corruption and amorality in government/business, relaxation of our war on terrorism and defense of the Homeland... and now you can even question the role the Clinton's played in squeezing NASA's budgets in favor of more popular social programs (or reducing the deficit).

In the end, I believe for the good of the nation, we have to have a confrontation with Hillary Clinton and the Evil Horde she represents. If it comes in 2004, I hope that the economy is in the recovery it should be (but the Dems will do everything they can to deny Bush that possibility)... if that's the case, and unless there is some tragic result in the next Gulf War, Bush will be unbeatable, so I hope he gets to THUMP Hitlery into the oblivion that she and her "husband" so richly deserve. If Hitlery prevails, it will be the end of the America that I know and love.

40 posted on 02/02/2003 8:01:06 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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