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African-Americans drowning in wave of illegal immigration
Houston Chronicle ^ | February 2, 2003 | TERRY ANDERSON

Posted on 02/02/2003 8:55:55 AM PST by Dog Gone

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To: Godel
Deal with your extinction. How nice. Is that what you would have told the Jews living under Hitler?
Who mentioned "extinction"? The article and this discussion are about one ethnic group (Hispanics, legal or illegal) moving in and overwhelming the previous ethnic group. Get a grip on your imagination.
41 posted on 02/02/2003 10:12:37 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Red Jones
Red, read my post #21, and be very careful before you call others ignorant. It makes you look bad.
42 posted on 02/02/2003 10:14:50 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Tailgunner Joe; mhking
Tailgunner, remember last month when you initiated a thread concerning the MLK holiday and our conversation pertaining to it? I'll find the post but I'm too friggin' lazy to do it now.

I remember you suggesting to me that I seemed okay with the ramifications of the hijacking of the Civil Rights Movement by the race hustlers out of some sort of revenge factor (something to that affect)?

In the end, you saw that that was not my intention(s) at all. However, please peruse this thread and tell me if you don't see the exact same thing that suits what you were asking.

Immigration is indeed a huge problem. There's no denying it. But one would think that Americans of all stripes would stand together on this issue. That doesn't appear to be the case with some here.

A black person raises the same issue that is of tremendous concern to conservatives and the reactions of some is simply, "Oh, well. What goes around comes around!"

Ain't that a bitch?

T-minus 41 days until the girth of Tha SYNDICATE, the philosophical heir to William Lloyd Garrison.
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43 posted on 02/02/2003 10:15:08 AM PST by rdb3 (So now I'm lookin' dead at you. What are you gonna do?)
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To: First_Salute
"All these years during which especially young black men could have been studying instead of feted at the altar of Jesse Jackson's "You have a right to be perpetually down 'n in the 'hood.""

The hood? Check this out.

http://www.lapdonline.org/get_involved/most_wanted/0alpha_most_wanted/a_wanted_index.htm



44 posted on 02/02/2003 10:16:54 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Dog Gone
It is very late in the game I know but I will keep fighting. Immigrents and illegal aliens are two very different things. When you allow the other side to define the word usage you allow them to define the debate.
45 posted on 02/02/2003 10:17:15 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (There are some days when getting up is a bad idea)
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To: Clara Lou
Has anyone checked the temperature in Hades? It may be freezing.
46 posted on 02/02/2003 10:23:05 AM PST by billhilly (On fire for BIG AL SHARPTON)
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To: Dog Gone
I understand the problem he describes, but Inglewood CA used to be a nice town too when I was a kid (many years and 1,200 miles ago). Now look at it. A Turd World ghetto, like Compton and Watts from years gone by.

Irony is obvious at times.

47 posted on 02/02/2003 10:24:40 AM PST by Hank Rearden (I've switched to tagline abuse; only dweebs abuse keywords.)
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To: First_Salute
he would tell young black children to study, to work on their education; but he, has long since stopped explaining to kids how they must prepare themselves for law-abiding opportunity.

If you look at the LAPD Most Wanted lists, you'll see relatively few blacks, they are far far outnumbered by those "hard-working, hard-studying" immigrants. Much of our crime is now imported.

48 posted on 02/02/2003 10:28:33 AM PST by FITZ
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To: quebecois
The problem with America today is not the blacks and its not the immigrants. It is the elite liberals who control our institutions (and they are almost totally white).

Hey, Celebrate Diversity!

Je$$e Jackass
Al Sharpton
Charles Barron
Charles Rangel
Maxine Waters
Eleanor Holmen Norton
The Texas idiot cow who thinks men landed on Mars (Sheila Jackson Lee?).

Want more?

49 posted on 02/02/2003 10:28:33 AM PST by Hank Rearden (I've switched to tagline abuse; only dweebs abuse keywords.)
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To: rdb3
black person raises the same issue that is of tremendous concern to conservatives and the reactions of some is simply, "Oh, well. What goes around comes around!"

Those of us who saw both white and black working people go from one 40 hr a week job to 2-3 minimum wage jobs (or meth cooking/dealing) just to survive don't feel that way. And I won't even go into the housing shortage...the 33% rise in crime in one calender year (1997-1998) per the county sheriff...the reappearance of one eradicated diseases like TB (both my husband and I tested positive for exposure)....the closing of one store or business after another...the closing of all but 2 of the factories....This country is becoming a nightmarish version of a third world country, because wages may be going down-but bills and prices, rents and mortgages, etc, are not.And no job category is safe. They told laid off factory workers to go learn computers ; well, we can see whats happening to the tech jobs. Looks like HCPs are the next on the chopping block.

Over 80% of the American people, including a comfortable majority of Hispanic citizens, want illegal immigration halted and our laws enforced. And BOTH parties are ignoring us. I really would like to know why. I do believe it goes waaaaaaaay beyond voting blocs for the Democrats and cheap labor for the Republicans....

50 posted on 02/02/2003 10:29:17 AM PST by kaylar
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To: Dog Gone
If Asian or European immigrants had moved into your neighborhood it's likely that you wouldn't have had to write this article.

It's only the desire of *some* hispanic immigrants to terraform areas of the United States into little Mexicos completely with Spanish spoke in the public square that causes this problem.

It is not at all racist for American immgrants of prior generations to demand that this new wave conform to the standards we have set for our country.
51 posted on 02/02/2003 10:33:21 AM PST by applemac_g4
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To: Clara Lou
My reaction to Mr. Anderson's concerns is "Hey! That's life. It's happened to many groups, ethnic or otherwise, over the span of history, and it's going to happen some more. Deal with it."

NO. It has never happened here.

All previous ethnic groups have learned the English language and American ways and assimilated.

Until the present Hispanic population has assimilated at least as well as the Irish or Italians, we need to completely seal the Southern Border. Afterwards, we need to have limited immigration and guest worker programs, but continue to do whatever is necessary to stop all illegal infiltration.

So9

52 posted on 02/02/2003 10:36:24 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Red Jones
I was including the top reaches of the Republican party in the mix when I said "elite white liberals". On many of the most important issues today, there really isn't a "dime's worth of difference" between the two parties.

The rank-and-file of the Rep party is different....but those who control the power in virtually all of our institutions (cultural, academic, and political) are whites who share some of the same, globalist ideas.

53 posted on 02/02/2003 10:37:01 AM PST by quebecois
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To: Hank Rearden
I think that you missed my point. The list of black "leaders" that you mention has power in american society only because they've been granted power by the liberal white elites. Without these elites, these black marxists would have no influence in america
54 posted on 02/02/2003 10:39:51 AM PST by quebecois
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To: Servant of the Nine
For the last time, when I said "span of history," wouldn't that have been a clue to you that I meant the history of "man" rather than the short 230-year period of U. S. history?
55 posted on 02/02/2003 10:40:21 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Wphile
If that idiot Vicente Fox would get off his duff and do something about Mexico instead of always insisting that it's the US's responsibility to handle this problem, we might get somewhere.

What's in it for Fox? The countless millions of illegal Mexicans send huge amounts of American money home. No income tax, free public services here, and Mexican families thrive due to American wages sent south of the border. It's time to fine the hell out of companies using illegals, but there are big business interests against that. And Fox keeps demanding *rights* for his illegal cash-cows in the U.S. The word *suckers* comes to mind....

56 posted on 02/02/2003 10:40:29 AM PST by xJones
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To: Dog Gone
I've made a few changes....see how it sounds:

This was a respectable, blue-collar area of hard-working white folks living in their bungalows and going to their jobs. In just a couple decades it has become almost entirely black.

This was a respectable, blue-collar area of hard-working Gentile folks living in their bungalows and going to their jobs. In just a couple decades it has become almost entirely Jewish.

Now back to the original wording:

This was a respectable, blue-collar area of hard-working black folks living in their bungalows and going to their jobs. In just a couple decades it has become almost entirely Mexican.

57 posted on 02/02/2003 10:43:15 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: First_Salute
Here's a Texas Most Wanted website. It lists the criminal with their gang name. Again ---relatively few blacks.

http://www.tgia.net/Most_Wanted/most_wanted.html
58 posted on 02/02/2003 10:44:23 AM PST by FITZ
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To: kaylar
One more way that illegal aliens hurt the United States: An American citizen, who lives in the United States, is not as likely as an illegal to send significant percentages of his earnings back to Mexico to support impoverished family members there. When an illegal does this, it takes wealth out of circulation in the United States, and reduces the multiplier effect in our economy.
59 posted on 02/02/2003 10:46:27 AM PST by applemac_g4
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To: scouse
the magazine for the National Association of Black Scuba Divers

I wonder . . . . would they accept for publication an article by a white guy named Angus Black?

or are they just fixated on skin color, like those "racist Republicans"?

60 posted on 02/02/2003 10:46:56 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Bringing you grumpy bon mots since early '99. You're welcome.)
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