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To: Coleus; abn11b; Afronaut; agrace; Alberta's Child; alephnull; alice_in_bubbaland; AM2000; ...
Thank you, Coleus. Just what I needed.

Hello, New Jersey. As most of you know, it's not about real estate tax rebates and car insurance. The current morally bankrupt bozos need to be voted out of office and this obscene law needs to be repealed.

Not that freepers need reminding about such things, but I was shocked last weekend that my family members (not the best-informed New Jersey-ites in the world, admittedly) were unaware of the reach of this law and its horrific implications. They remembered something about embryos without realizing that fetuses up to full term can be experimented on in any way the scientists choose.

Ramesh Ponnuru points out in his new book, The Party of Death, that the big donors in the Republican Party tend to be more pro-abortion than the rank and file. That makes sense, since they are rich, and therefore tend to be Republicans more for fiscal-restraint and tax reasons than for social-issue reasons. This fact had escaped me, for some reason, but it follows, of course, that donations to pro-life candidates are extremely important.

Thanks again, Coleus, for putting this thread together and for all your wonderful threads on the life issue.

44 posted on 05/09/2006 8:15:50 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
There are a number of problems with this issue and getting the correct information out. The biased, left-wing press will not print the truth. The press makes somatic cell nuclear transfer aka "fetal farming" to be the greatest medical technique ever invented which will enable the medical profession to save the lives of millions. But what they don't tell you is that they are playing God, creating a life, growing the baby to a full term of 9 months, killing the baby and then using his organs for transplants, brain tissue, etc.

Our current government supports and funds the research of aborted babies and supports and funds abortions through the federal Medicaid system and from funding through Title X (a program started in 1969 by Geo. H.W. Bush) by funding Planned Parenthood (the USA's largest abortion provider).

Stem Cell Innovations Produces Human Stem Cells; for Use in Government Funded Laboratories (the National Institutes of Health, aka the US Federal Government, the moral-and-family-values congress and executive branch, funds research on the tissues of slaughtered, aborted babies).   Why waste good tissue, right?
 
NJ, Quinnipiac Poll on stem cell research misleading, Poll omitted important facts

Also, when writing their articles, the press appears to be touting non-embryonic stem cell research when reporting on new stem-cell research only to mention the word "embryonic" near the end of the article knowing that "most" people do NOT read an entire article. Or the press will use the term "fetal cells" or "fetal tissue" and not use the term "embryonic" at all.

Another problem is that most religions like reformed Judaism, mainstream protestantism don't come out against fetal farming and embryonic stem cell research and the Catholic Church while, although against it on paper, does not make sure that their flock completely understands the issue and does not come out against the catholic politicians who have pushed this since day ONE like governors McGreevey and Codey, Senate President Codey, Assembly Speaker Siries, etc. A number of catholics, some are in the K of C, in the legislature have voted YES to embryonic stem cell research, YES to cloning and fetal farming and YES to fund these initiatives. And fund it they do, all politically, there are 3 separate facilities one in the South, one in the Central and another one in the North part of the state all strategically located to keep everyone in the legislature happy.

FYI, "republican" Sen. Thomas H. Kean, Jr., candidate for US Senate, was the only republican senator in committee to vote YES to fund the Stem Cell Institute.

http://www.njjewishnews.com/njjn.com/050406/njKeanBacksStemCell.html
http://njrtl.org/content/newsletter_details.asp?ArticleID=1035

46 posted on 05/09/2006 12:58:39 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic)
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To: firebrand; Coleus

Thanks for the ping. I have to admit, I really don't know much about this issue, either. This is an informative thread. This is the first time I've heard of the NJ "ban" on cloning.


48 posted on 05/10/2006 9:10:18 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: firebrand
Ramesh Ponnuru points out in his new book, The Party of Death, that the big donors in the Republican Party tend to be more pro-abortion than the rank and file. ***

Sen. Frist wants ESCR
50 posted on 12/12/2006 9:56:59 AM PST by Cucumber
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